List of Unfair and Game-Breaking FPS Tactics

[artanis_neravar]

can everyone please just shut up already about how camping is a realistic strategy in war? this isn't a real war, it's a videogame. if you want realistic combat, go join the damn army.

as for noob weapons... how is that an unfair tactic? I really don't understand why the noob combo is called that anyway. it's rather common knowledge that in the halo universe, plasma weapons are good against shields, while balistics are good against flesh. using that knowledge to your advantage by wielding a plasma pistol and a magnum isn't being a noob, it's just using the weapons strengths in the optimal way. if you then go crying how that's noobish while you keep hammering at someone's shield with your assault rifle... who's the real noob? don't cry if someone uses the right tool for the job. every weapon has it's strengths and weaknesses. yes, when used correctly the pp/magnum combo kills you in 2 seconds. but that pistol takes a long time to reload and the magnum is a ***** if you don't have very good aim. it's not all-powerful.

If you don't want campers don't play the game

for someone with a camper's aim you just spectacularly missed the point. I said people need to stop bitching about how camping is a realistic strategy that's used in war. yeah, maybe it is, but videogames aren't real wars. real soldiers don't respawn. I didn't say anything about camping itself. actually, I'm capable enough to deal with most of them, so they're just a minor annoyance.

In that case, they are war simulation FPS games. and no soldiers don't re-spawn and I don't remember where I was going with that anymore. On a side note I would prefer to use squad tactics, but most team games are just team FFA

 

[Floppertje]

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In that case, they are war simulation FPS games. and no soldiers don't re-spawn and I don't remember where I was going with that anymore. On a side note I would prefer to use squad tactics, but most team games are just team FFA

CoD isn't exactly simulation. operation flashpoint comes closer, but that's a whole different thread.
on the topic of squad tactics: it's really funny to hear people crying about 'teaming' in TDM shame on you for using tactics and working together with your team!

 

[artanis_neravar]

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In that case, they are war simulation FPS games. and no soldiers don't re-spawn and I don't remember where I was going with that anymore. On a side note I would prefer to use squad tactics, but most team games are just team FFA

CoD isn't exactly simulation. operation flashpoint comes closer, but that's a whole different thread.
on the topic of squad tactics: it's really funny to hear people crying about 'teaming' in TDM shame on you for using tactics and working together with your team!

I concede your point. Also I would love to find a team that actually works together.

 

[Floppertje]

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In that case, they are war simulation FPS games. and no soldiers don't re-spawn and I don't remember where I was going with that anymore. On a side note I would prefer to use squad tactics, but most team games are just team FFA

CoD isn't exactly simulation. operation flashpoint comes closer, but that's a whole different thread.
on the topic of squad tactics: it's really funny to hear people crying about 'teaming' in TDM shame on you for using tactics and working together with your team!

I concede your point. Also I would love to find a team that actually works together.

get 3 buddies to play with you, or join a clan. those are the only things that I've seen work, random group joining rarely results in proper teamwork. if the teams are random, it's just a game of FFA where you can't shoot one half of the players.

 

[artanis_neravar]

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In that case, they are war simulation FPS games. and no soldiers don't re-spawn and I don't remember where I was going with that anymore. On a side note I would prefer to use squad tactics, but most team games are just team FFA

CoD isn't exactly simulation. operation flashpoint comes closer, but that's a whole different thread.
on the topic of squad tactics: it's really funny to hear people crying about 'teaming' in TDM shame on you for using tactics and working together with your team!

I concede your point. Also I would love to find a team that actually works together.

get 3 buddies to play with you, or join a clan. those are the only things that I've seen work, random group joining rarely results in proper teamwork. if the teams are random, it's just a game of FFA where you can't shoot one half of the players.

The problem with that is, I was banned from MW2 and Black Ops you can't join as a team (unless they changed that) so I'm kind of stuck

 

[Dense_Electric]

I'll give you the same reply I give everyone: if it was intentionally put in the game by designers, it's fair game. So long as everyone has the ability to do it, it can hardly be called "unfair."

If you keep getting killed by campers, stop running through the same door and find another way to beat him. Or better yet, camp yourself! Some guy got the awesome "noob-weapon" and is pWning everyone with it? Kill him and get your hands on it. Keep getting killed by no-scopers or dive-shotters? Learn to do it yourself. That'll show em.

As far as I've seen, the majority of the time when players complain about "noob tactics" or "unbalanced weapons" in a game, it's because THEY MAD. But rather than attempting to use that tactic or weapon to their advantage, they just complain and whine and moan about it on the internet.

 

[Someone Depressing]

How is sitting in a dark corner sniping people "camping"? That's the whole point of a sniper, to use stealth and half-decent aim rather than walking into the opening guns-blazing like a moron.

PS: I guess it's unfair if the Sniper stays there all bloody match.

PSS: You could summarise this list with the words, "Anything/Anyone that kills me is 'noobish.'"

 

[TheBoulder]

I love the amount of people in this thread who say camping is a legit tactic. I just know they're campers themselves who probably can't do any good if they play the game like everyone else.

So, how should players use the sniper rifle? Ive never been much of a fan of it, but that's pretty much how it's supposed to be used. Hide somewhere and kill unsuspecting victims. Sniper Alleys are a fact of life in war zones.

In deathmatch, it's not a terribly effective strategy unless the player is really good. Campers generally don't win matches because players learn to avoid them. Only spawn campers are being jackasses.

I'm talking about hiding in a corner with your gun pointed at the entrance. That's the cheap kind camping. Sitting at the back of the map can be cheap, but it depends on the map. And those kinds of snipers get pointed out quickly and don't get any points.

 

[Nifty]

Camping might be legitimate but by God, it's cheap and BORING. I think less of people who just play for the easy kills, camping a doorway and waiting with a shotgun. What's the point? Go play a rythym game if you're just waiting for something to pass through your crosshair. At least people won't wish impotence upon you.

 

[Netrigan]

Camping might be legitimate but by God, it's cheap and BORING. I think less of people who just play for the easy kills, camping a doorway and waiting with a shotgun. What's the point? Go play a rythym game if you're just waiting for something to pass through your crosshair. At least people won't wish impotence upon you.

but some folks really enjoy it. It takes a lot of skill to snipe effectively (especially in lag conditions) and some folks really get into it (whether they have the skill or not). Camping has always been in MP even before sniper rifles (the one time I played Quake on-line a guy was camping the rocket launcher with a rocket launcher) and it was built into Unreal Tournament. Head up to the top of the map and you'll find a perefect camping spot... with a sniper rifle spawn point next to it. The one thing they were worried about was spawn camping, so respawning players had a few seconds of invinsibility.

Why? Because a lot of the devs enjoyed sniping and defended the idea of camping.

 

[General_Potatoes]

Umm, could argue that chat spamming, or mic spamming could be unfair, as they distract other players from the game.

Thats why you mute them. And I get over campers easily. And the quickscopers........ I worship them. Just to be able to do that is pretty cool

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

1) Camping

I don't mind this in more objective based game modes IF A. they are actually protecting the objective and B. if the game includes mechanics or paths that allow me to get dumb campers that are only looking down their scopes. The Battlefield "we can destroy all cover" or the Homefront "death from my flying drones" are good, while CoD explosives/special gernades are passable.

2) Quickscoping/Noscoping

Annoying, not to hard to beat if you keep moving laterally, but annoying. Your a sniper, you should be half the map away from me.

3) Dolphin-Diving/Drop-Shotting

A glitch I have never noticed. Character moves, hitbox should follow.

4) "Noobish" Weapons

It's a knock against the developer for not balancing the game right, not the player who is smart and goes with the best weapon.

5) Glitch Exploiting
6) Hacking

This is what annoys me the most, and shame on any developer that doesn't ban players and/or patch as soon as the exploit/hack comes into being.

 

[Jabberwock xeno]

1. What do you mean by camping?

In a real war, snipers are effective because they can pick off enimies without being spotted.

Camping is an accurate resperstation of this. In a real war, running out and hunting down opponents would be sucide.

In addition, there are tools to weed these people out: It's balence.

2. Realistically, a sniper rifle is no harder to use or aim than any other gun. If a person is using a sniper rifle as a close or mid range weapon, THEY are at a disadtadvge, an assualt rifle, or even an SMG is better at this role.

3. You covered the issue.

4. Depends. The "noob tube" is powerful because its powerful in real life. The fact that you only have a few grenades balences it. ESPCALTY in the battlefield games, where:

- Nearly nothing other than a direct hit is an instant kill.
- It is useful for destroying buildings.

Also, the plasma pistol (in the noob combo) was ONLY useful as a shield EMP. it was laughbly innfective in every other way.

5. Depends, is it affecting others, or are they by themeselves having fun? do they share it with others, but not force it on them?


6. Same as 5.

 

[Vausch]

Medics.

I kid, but I do get repeatedly pissed that I can't kill somebody because a medic is constantly healing them and I can't hit the medic because he's always hiding behind the over-healed player.

 

[Steven Howe]

Camping as in hiding in a corner with an automatic rifle, not on a tree miles away with a bolt action rifle.

Quick scoping or no scoping is the sniper's ONLY option in cqb and it does take skill and practice (other than MW2). This should be classed under annoying things that happen in game.

Tubing is just plain bad on cod games while on battlefield it's actually pretty balanced, the time it takes to replenish a tube nade from the ammo pack and the damage the tube does is not that much. Still sodding annoying when you get killed.

Drop shooting is close to nil on BFBC2 since we don't have prone. On cod, it is the most common and annoying tactic EVER. I hope they slam their balls on road spikes while doing it. *EDIT: They don't have any.

Won't even bother going with noobish weapons, you got the BFG, YOU USE THE BFG! If you're low leveled and get killed by someone with a better gun, you keep playing and get that gun!

The one thing I hate is explosive spamming against infantry, especially withe the Carl Gustav on BFBC2 or the AT4 from MW2. No idea how many times an engineer would spawn camp with an assault and use them rockets and tubes on people.

-It's always hilarious to see cod players trying to snipe on bfbc2.