I feel for ya! No-one should have to watch that (though i am kinda mad at you for now having burned it into MY mind).lacktheknack said:
little girl gets kicked off the cheerleading squad because mom complains about a cheer
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When I first saw the title my first reaction was "What the fuck?" Then when I read the whole story I really have to know, "What the hell was the coach thinking?"
A good rewrite would be "My back's aching, my skirts are tight, my booty shakes from left to right." I'd have given that a B- and then kicked the coach who directed 6 year olds to say this squaw inna nuts.The_root_of_all_evil said:
First of all:DanielDeFig said:
Secondly, watch the clip. The controversy started because the mother went to the appropriate authorities, in this case the cheerleading coach (followed by the Parent Teacher Association, or PTA). Both of those authorities made bone-headed decisions. That caused a stir, which caused news and media outlets to latch on to this case that people felt so strongly about. Media (and more specifically news) investigators are more relentless than some law enforcement, are not bound by jurisdiction or limited in scale (i.e. only dealing with "big" problems), and are far more accessible (typically) than other authorities (such as the PTA). Surely you have "soccer moms" and "investigative journalism" in your country (even if you don't call them by those names, lets not get bogged down in semantics).DanielDeFig said:
Does that make running first to the news media the right thing to do? No. Does that make the story any less disturbing? Absolutely not.
Oh, Pedobear would be proud. He would be very proud.
I think I'm going to be sick.lacktheknack said:
Wait, I assume this is for an elementary school right? They let kids in grade 1, who just started school, cheer like that? I'm so confused. Maybe they should wait until they are in grade 3 instead.
2xDouble said:
The cheer remains disturbing, i don't think ive seen a post here yet that disagrees with that. But you haven't quite answered my question fully. I agree that the media is more accessible, wherever you are, but i still don't understand what that mom hopes to achieve by contacting the media. There was another story here on the escapist about a mom being upset about a comic store selling old comics (that hadn't been checked well), that had adult content without the store manager knowing. She also went to the media to complain. I dont remember whether she complained to the manager as well, but if she already had, then why complain to the media as well, and if she hadn't, then why do that instead?
what im asking is: what do these moms hope to achieve by contacting the media? If you are already discussing the problem with the one responsible, then why bring the media in? And if you aren't, then why go to the media instead? They can't help either way, so if the person responsible refuses to discuss the problem or comply with your demands, then either accept that or (if you feel its important enough) find out who has the authority to look into the problem and help you.
I don't know if its a cultural thing, i don't know if its that they want to be on tv, i dont know if they aren't informed that there are higher authorities and organisations that can actually help them. I don't know why this seems to happen in a lot news stories in the US, but outside of the US the media usually catches on to these stories BECAUSE a higher authority was contacted, not because the individual contacted them.
sorry to be ranting here, mbe i should make a separate thread of this if i still don't get a clear answer.
OT: the cheer is still creepy as heck, and no six year old should have to sing it just because they want to be in a cheer leading team. And she especially shouldn't be kicked off just because her mother had a (completely valid) complaint.
Really? I know Japan has cheerleading (and baseball), but other than that i haven't heard of any other countries outside the US. Grew up travelling and going to several international schools where cheerleading just doesn't exist. It's almost nonexistent in Europe (mbe in some american schools etc.), and even more so in Africa. I haven't been to south america or Asia at all, so i cant say for sure, but doubt there is much of it in South America (Post-Colonial, a lot of culture comes from Europe and the rest from indigenous culture). But like for the rest of the third-world, i think cheerleading wouldnt be very popular in most of Asia, since its more of a luxury activity (and not a sport), so i doubt it could be afforded.StBishop said:
Clearly Australia has it tho, so maybe its more popular than a thought outside of international schools (u learn something new everyday!). Still, the mom described the cheer as outdated and provocative, but personally always found cheerleading as a whole to be degrading and outdated. I don't see the point, though i suppose the more modern cheerleading i recently saw is more like acrobatics (which is more acceptable), but then you might as well get rid of the skirts (as they are somewhat limiting)