Little shits who think the're tough.

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Therumancer

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I don't know a lot about the British school system but I'd say two things:

#1: Violence begets more violence, it's hard to say if these attitudes started (perhaps generationally) from bigger kids picking on them, and them trying to play the game back, or if it's them simply being jerks with a feeling of invulnerability.

#2: I'd be very careful in messing with 11 year olds for a number of reasons. One of course is that it can easily backfire on you if your caught, and you can get in serious trouble if you seriously hurt one and are signifigantly older. The second one is oddly enough that you might wind up getting yourself hurt or killed.

To explain the second point, I will say that the whole "Chav" thing seems similar to the US Gangsta problem. Gangs are a lot more sophisticated than they used to be, and even produce their own propaganda and youth recruitment/conversion. Kids who act like that might be trying to impress real gang members, or even actually be in a gang themselves.

To put things into perspective there was this one kid known as "Yummy" who made the news in the US. At the age of 11 he already had over 20 felonies on his record, and was excecuted by his own gang just like an adult when he became a liabiliy. Oh yes, and he was also a murderer having shot and killed one person, and is known to have opened fire with a gun on a couple of other occasions.

Not a joke:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Sandifer

A profile on the gang he belonged to:

http://www.ngcrc.com/bdprofile.html

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Now the thing to consider here is that this happened back in 1994, if anything the problem has gotten worse. You have kids selling drugs to other kids in elementary schools and everything else.

While the odds are still in your favor that a kid acting like that is probably harmless, keep it in the back of your mind that especially if they seem to be acting with others (and you really don't know them) you really could get shot and killed by some moron... and we're not talking about Columbine stuff here.

Don't get too paranoid, I could say more about it (and post other stuff besides perhaps the most famous case), just an FYI.
 

Arenari

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Erana said:
This entire thread is just... mind-blowing and horrifying.

Yay for being sheltered! \o/
Surely nothing bad will come from my graduating college at 18.
/sarcasm.

Ugh... I need more life experience. I was hoping to be able to raise children at some point down the road. Where does this well... for a lack of a better term, stupid mindset come from?
This stupid mindset comes from newer parents who don't discipline their kids. All because they don't want to "damage their fragile self esteem." Who else thinks this is a major load of bullshit?
 

Lyri

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The year sevens do that Every year, it's not new or anything.

They go from being the top of the school back down to the bottom, so they're a little confused.
A quick slap round the back of the head often fixes them right up.
 

robert022614

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lol well i grew up in a bad neighborhood where kids that age actually would pull a gun on you so well yes there were always the mouthy ones that are more bark than bite, but you had to be a bit more cautious about it 8P
 

Lt.Snuffles

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In my School, I would have thought that nothing like this would happen, owing to the fact that it is a grammar School and that you have to be pretty Intellegent to get in.
Unfortunatly, my (year 10) classroom is located right next to a Year 7 classroom and they're all cocky little shits.
No matter how many times you have to throw them on the floor, put them in an armlock and force them to apologise, they do not learn that pissing off a whole class of people who are bigger than you isn't an incredibly bright thing to do.
One Kid decided to take it too far and actually start a fight with five of us, who were peacefully enjoying lunch. So when he had finished crying he still hadn't learned and proceded to call a "Ginger prick", which again, resaulted in him being thrown on the floor.
 

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I remember a few months ago i was walking home from work listening to my Ipod and this group of kids, they must have been 13 or 14ish started saying stuff to me thinking i couldn't hear them because i had headphones on. When i got pretty close to them i stopped took out my headphones and said "Do you like your teeth?" and they ran off.

God i hate children.
 

Cherry Cola

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Demented Teddy said:
Hubilub said:
Seriously? That happened to you?

... I've heard of 7th graders getting more loud-mouthed over the year, but... threatening people twice their size?

WHY HAST THOU FORSAKEN US, OH HOLY NATURAL SELECTION!?
Kids know you can't get away with hitting them you see.
Fuck that, I'm going to go hunt for kindergarteners!
 

DividedUnity

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I dont know why its happening but ive definetly noticed that 2nd years in our school who are about 12 are getting out of place even if that does sound a bit stupid. They are all too willing to mouth off to someone twice their size which is really stupid and I cant wait until they do it to the wrong person and end up getting the shit kicked out of them. I dont know why it happens. Perhaps bad parenting, harsher views on bullying younger kids (bullying anyone else is ok apparently), or simply after centuries of inbreeding they are the result. I kid I kid but when you start seeing 8 year olds wearing 3 stripe adidas tracksuits and talking like their 25 you begin to lose faith in humanity
 

Gunjack65

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Maybe its Xbox live teaching kids that its ok to hurl racial and homophobic insults at strangers. People waaaaaaaaay younger than my age play GTA and Call Of Duty you know.
 

SomeBoredGuy

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I love the slang that year sevens at my school use. It's freaking hilarious. Apparently to "bang" someone means to whack them, and this is accepted by pretty much everyone. Just shows how gullible some people can be. Not to mention they seem to threaten anyone who does anything to "bang" them.

I've made sure not to tell any of them what they are really saying when they threaten people with their extreme "banging" skills. Never mind the fact that they think Modern Warfare 2 is, objectively, the best game of all time.
 

noogai18

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Averted, since my default face is a scowl and I'm 6'1", 250 pounds. and a senior. One guy, though, probably a 7th or 8th grader, tried to take a seat at a movie that I was saving for my friend with a) popcorn and b) my wallet. One look, the guy turned around and the entire group moved to the end of the row.
 

DazBurger

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STORY TIEME!
I am a LARPer, which makes me an easy target... Or something...
But anyways!

Me and some of my friends got hired to do some arena-event for children at some city-celebration-party-thingey, and it went pretty well, untill it got late and a large group og drunk teenagers showed up. (Dun dun duuun!)

Notthing serious happened. I am 2meters tall, 110 kg, and at the time wearing 30 kg's of plate armour, and none of my mates were much smaller, so the kids at least knew not to fight us.
But as the kiddoes started getting more and more smart-mouthed, we invited them into our arena, borrowed a hardened rubber sword each... And kicked the living shit outta them.

One other teenager dident believe that my armour was made of acctural metal... Sor some reason.. So I told him that he was welcome to punch me in the chest... Which he did... As hard as he could... You should have seen his face :D

One other kid wanted to hold my sword, and then refused to let go, resulting in me jabbing him over his fingers with my steel-cladded hand.




All in all I hope they learned their lesson. Dont mess with larpers!
 

Beastialman

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A freshmen in my woodshop class. He probably suffered from short man syndrome. Anyway to prove he was 'touch' he fashioned a weed pipe out of scrap wood... he made something he was going to put burning objects in out of wood and didn't have the intention of setting the thing on fire. He also walked past me a lot and occasionally stabbed a screwdriver into the desk.

This was all made funnier when he only came about chest high to me.
 

UberLemonBoy

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my school
my 6th grade year average height 5'6
new 6th grade year average height 4'10
they're also little also who i want to kick in the face so god damn hard
 

otacon

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Dok Zombie said:
The UK School system needs to be completely 3 tier (I know some places already are) because 11-16 is far too big an age gap for kids in the same school. The amount of grief we got from young-un's for being moshers/grebos/metal-heads was unreal, because they knew that we would be expelled if we battered one of the little fuckers. Luckily I'm 21 now and school is far behind me, best years of your life my arse.
This. Only difference is I'm two years younger.
 

Blimey

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They amused me more then stepped to me. A couple of grade 7's tried to step to me when I was in grade 12. I didn't even do anything, I just told them to piss off. It always seemed to work, and its not even like I'm very intimidating.

Its all in the growly voice. Rawr.
 

kinggingerman

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I was in year 10 and we took the year 7s to a week residential trip to Dartmoor. They were all staying in the tents that week (this is important). The kids were sleeping about 5 to a tent and there was a little boy in one of the tents who suffered from bedwetting the poor kid. Anyway we had a policy with bedwetting which is if anyone does it we'll clean it up and no one will tell anyone so as not to embarrass the poor kid. The problem occured when a chav kid found out about it and told everyone and was laughing at him as a result the child left the trip in tears. So we decided to get payback when me and my 3 mates were on security duty for the tents one afternoon when the year 7s were on a trip to the town. What we did was go into the chav groups tents and open the sides up letting all the water into there tents causing there sleeping bags to get soaked and then we started putting various insects into there belongings to teach the little shits a lesson. Needless to say when they got back they were crying their eyes out and screaming like little bitches. Later on we told the teachers about our little revenge and the best part of all.......The teachers supported us and laughed at them and then covered for us when the boys told there parents!!