If you would have read my post more carefully you would have seen that I'm not speaking of official terms. I'm referring to what it means when people, specifically gamers, talk about RPG's in a casual conversation or exchange, and you know that gamers do use those terms in the context in which I spoke.s69-5 said:Nope. It's just the origin of the dev.Horizun said:You know very well when someone refers to something as a JRPG or a WRPG they're not referring to their origins, but more their cultural and art styles which is very important for someone who's trying to decide whether or not the game might suit their tastes.s69-5 said:Yes, it is.Blood Brain Barrier said:Isn't Dark Souls a JRPG?
Don't let anyone tell you different.
JRPG =/= turn based combat
JRPG = Made in Japan
OP: Valkyria Chronicles (if you like SRPGs at all)
Besides, Dark Souls is the sequel, to the spriritual successor to King's Field - a Japanese Role Playing Game by From Software (or JRPG as it were). Even if we ascribe to your failed logic, JRPGs have had Action combat since the days of the NES (Crystallis and Zelda 2) and SNES (Secret of Mana). Other more recent examples include Kingdom Hearts, Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, Dragon's Dogma, Y's 7 etc...
The is no set rules to JRPGs or WRPGs other than they have to be created in a specific place.
As I've stated multiple times - the true subgenres (and all you really need):
- CRPG
- ARPG
- SRPG/ TRPG
- MMORPG
- Dungeon Crawler
- Roguelike
All RPGs whether from the West or the East fall into those categories. J and W are superfluous and unecessary.
Since you're so found of formalities and technicalities, Dark Souls is actually the spiritual successor of Demon Souls which is the spiritual successor of King's Field, and since they are "spiritual successors" they are far less bound to stick closely to the original game's formula. And for the record I'm well aware of how the unofficial roles of so-called JRPG's vs WJRPG's has flipped over the course of the 90's and new millenium. Yes, JRPG's were originally the more action based ones where as western ones were more rule-based, mainly because of the usage of a controller for JRPG's whereas their western counterparts were played primarily on computers with a keyboard and mouse.
Are they official gaming terms? No, but they are used by enough people to know and acknowledge that when someone says Japanese or western RPG they're (correctly or incorrectly) describing a certain cultural style of game, not it's origin. If we go by origin the vast majority of games are Japanese but that description blindly leaves out cultural influence.
Yes, those are the true categories of RPG's that you listed. Just don't ignore the slang terms, or more importantly be able to discern when someone is using them as slang since they also mean something to lots of gamers out there.