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infinity_turtles

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Most tips you'll learn either on your own or be spammed with(wards, watch the map, learn to last hit, etc etc) but there is one piece of "advice" I know gets spammed to hell at low elos that I'll go ahead and counter. When playing AD carry, build AD mainly, not AS. Positioning is important, and AS builds only do higher damage if you stand still the entire time you attack, which will get your squishy ass killed against people who know what they're doing.

Okay, now advice on champion choices... Warwick currently is outclassed pretty much everywhere, and has difficulty with his sustain top. I'd probably replace him with someone else. I'd probably go with Trundle, Skarner, or Mundo. Kennen as an ADC is a trap, so if you want another champion to cover that whole, switch him out for someone else. I'll recommend Draven, not so much for how good he is, though he's certainly viable, but learning when and when not to catch his axes is actually good positioning training for every other ranged carry.

Actually, on that note, if you want to better learn the basics of the game, I recommend you pick up Draven and Shyvana, as mechanically they encourage things you want to be doing anyway.
 

Asus Quickclaw

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I highly recommend you grab Singed. He's a bit tricky to get started with, but he's only counterable by ranged tops. (swain, AD carry, vlad,...) however, even a ranged won't stop Singed from getting his farm, so you'll get a good late-game anyway. If you spend some time learning to play him, he's one of the most safe solo top's i can give you. You've got voli is top, wich is a good choice, but the enemy will grab ignite or a healing-reducing champ and faceroll you. Kat is good as well, but most tops have CC, wich is her demise. Rumble is REALY good, almost as good as Singed, (in getting last hits and just general surviving) but Singed is better for when you realy need a TANK, not some half-arsed offtank. Not to say rumble is bad, but he doesn't fit well in teams with for examlpe shaco in the jungle. As for GP, he's a very good solo top. Can't say a lot of bad about him, but I feel like Singed is better for the team. GP has his ult, wich can turn teamfights around, and he's a good split-pusher, but so is Singed.


TL/DR: Singed rules, get him.
 

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Asus Quickclaw said:
I highly recommend you grab Singed. He's a bit tricky to get started with, but he's only counterable by ranged tops. (swain, AD carry, vlad,...) however, even a ranged won't stop Singed from getting his farm, so you'll get a good late-game anyway. If you spend some time learning to play him, he's one of the most safe solo top's i can give you. You've got voli is top, wich is a good choice, but the enemy will grab ignite or a healing-reducing champ and faceroll you. Kat is good as well, but most tops have CC, wich is her demise. Rumble is REALY good, almost as good as Singed, (in getting last hits and just general surviving) but Singed is better for when you realy need a TANK, not some half-arsed offtank. Not to say rumble is bad, but he doesn't fit well in teams with for examlpe shaco in the jungle. As for GP, he's a very good solo top. Can't say a lot of bad about him, but I feel like Singed is better for the team. GP has his ult, wich can turn teamfights around, and he's a good split-pusher, but so is Singed.


TL/DR: Singed rules, get him.
huehuehuehuehuehuehue Rumble not as good as Singed HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEEUHEUEHUEHE :p
 

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Ferisar said:
Asus Quickclaw said:
I highly recommend you grab Singed. He's a bit tricky to get started with, but he's only counterable by ranged tops. (swain, AD carry, vlad,...) however, even a ranged won't stop Singed from getting his farm, so you'll get a good late-game anyway. If you spend some time learning to play him, he's one of the most safe solo top's i can give you. You've got voli is top, wich is a good choice, but the enemy will grab ignite or a healing-reducing champ and faceroll you. Kat is good as well, but most tops have CC, wich is her demise. Rumble is REALY good, almost as good as Singed, (in getting last hits and just general surviving) but Singed is better for when you realy need a TANK, not some half-arsed offtank. Not to say rumble is bad, but he doesn't fit well in teams with for examlpe shaco in the jungle. As for GP, he's a very good solo top. Can't say a lot of bad about him, but I feel like Singed is better for the team. GP has his ult, wich can turn teamfights around, and he's a good split-pusher, but so is Singed.


TL/DR: Singed rules, get him.
huehuehuehuehuehuehue Rumble not as good as Singed HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEEUHEUEHUEHE :p
Yeah, that's basicly what i said ^_^' I'm just a bit of a Singed fan, since he's so funny to play, and not a lot of people play him, so people don't know what to do against him.
 

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If you're looking for champs tutorials/ how to counter certain champs, I recommend watching Ciderhelm's Don't Feed Series on YouTube; You can easily be prepared against any/every champ in the league if you examine the information given in the videos carefully.

Aside from that, I don't know; try to sharpen your reflexes for season 3 and I would advise getting used to SmartCasting; it can prevent misclicking and feeding.
 

Ferisar

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Asus Quickclaw said:
Yeah, that's basicly what i said ^_^' I'm just a bit of a Singed fan, since he's so funny to play, and not a lot of people play him, so people don't know what to do against him.
Oh Singed is great fun. It's just that once people do know what to do against him... Well, balls, to say the least. He does throw goop on a lot of standard top bruisers though.

Goop goop.
 

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felbot said:
well simple, just remember the golden rule: say ss.
really there is nothing more frustrating than do die because someone was sleeeping.
You died because you didn't have the map awareness, not because someone didn't say "ss".
 

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SecretNegative said:
Don't play ranked until you have like atleast 400 + wins in normal. Like seriously, that's minimum. LoL has an extremely large skillcap, which means you'll be improving all the time. So please, play draft pick instead when you hit 30, it's basically the same.
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

No seriously though, I only have like 250~ normal wins, 300 dominion or so and I am ranked at 1900 in solo queue, I began playing ranked when I was at 200 normal wins or so, just don't worry too much about it.

Also get Ryze, he's an amazing mid. And Diana, she counters every super squishy AP, however the people who are very very good will dodge your Q a lot, so you gotta learn how to use it, where they usually dodge to and other habits.
 

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Zyst said:
SecretNegative said:
Don't play ranked until you have like atleast 400 + wins in normal. Like seriously, that's minimum. LoL has an extremely large skillcap, which means you'll be improving all the time. So please, play draft pick instead when you hit 30, it's basically the same.
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

No seriously though, I only have like 250~ normal wins, 300 dominion or so and I am ranked at 1900 in solo queue, I began playing ranked when I was at 200 normal wins or so, just don't worry too much about it.

Also get Ryze, he's an amazing mid. And Diana, she counters every super squishy AP, however the people who are very very good will dodge your Q a lot, so you gotta learn how to use it, where they usually dodge to and other habits.
Well, elo isn't everything. That's why you see guys like Reginald (TSM's mid) with 1600 elo. Many of the top elo player are also quite bad, but just got carried by thier teams. That's important to remember. You can easily find people at 1500 who is better than the people at 2k.
 

Asus Quickclaw

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Ferisar said:
Asus Quickclaw said:
Yeah, that's basicly what i said ^_^' I'm just a bit of a Singed fan, since he's so funny to play, and not a lot of people play him, so people don't know what to do against him.
Oh Singed is great fun. It's just that once people do know what to do against him... Well, balls, to say the least. He does throw goop on a lot of standard top bruisers though.

Goop goop.
fair enough, fair enough. Still awesome to kill people by running like a lil sissy :3
 

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felbot said:
well simple, just remember the golden rule: say ss.
really there is nothing more frustrating than do die because someone was sleeeping.

also i highly recommend getting leona, she is a pretty good support and can stun one target or their entire team with her ult.
I play Leona pretty regularly and she is fun as hell. High risk, high reward with an almost total reliance on teammates for damage. I wouldn't suggest you buy her though as she is currently underpowered so, so bad. The game claims she is a tank and most people build her that way but she can't solo top and is really only good as a bot support (And even then, only with a bursty carry like graves that can take advantage of her brief moment of stun). Taric is a much more consistent support. He has a very good heal (that scales with AP) and his aa regens mana meaning that he rarely has to leave the lane. Then he's got his stun and his two buffs. All in all, Leona is fun to play but I don't think she's viable. Taric, on the other hand, is played constantly because he's just so goddamn useful. So if it's a choice between Leona and Taric, choose Taric until further notice from riot on a Leona buff.
 

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How to play LoL: Call your MIAs/SSs, don't steal your carry's farm/kills, WARD THE RIVER BUSHES!, periodically check Dragon and Baron, look at your map so see enemy positions in case your team doesn't call the MIA, DO NOT rely on your jungler early game to gank constantly, take the blame for your actions/don't needlessly blame your team for stuff, do not roam around by yourself unless you are extremely fed, no matter how fed your are crowd control is still crowd control, Karthus ultimate ISN'T a guarenteed killer so don't call a Karthus ulti unless you're 100% sure it will guarentee a kill for you or Karthus, a fed AP character doesn't mean anything late game, as Shen your ultimate is more effective if the person you use it on is about to die since the enemy will ALWAYS commit to killing them, NEVER tower dive a kill unless you have 2 other people in lane with you, Mid lane should ALWAYS gank top or bot when their opposition is MIA/SS.
 

Ferisar

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Wayneguard said:
felbot said:
well simple, just remember the golden rule: say ss.
really there is nothing more frustrating than do die because someone was sleeeping.

also i highly recommend getting leona, she is a pretty good support and can stun one target or their entire team with her ult.
I play Leona pretty regularly and she is fun as hell. High risk, high reward with an almost total reliance on teammates for damage. I wouldn't suggest you buy her though as she is currently underpowered so, so bad. The game claims she is a tank and most people build her that way but she can't solo top and is really only good as a bot support (And even then, only with a bursty carry like graves that can take advantage of her brief moment of stun). Taric is a much more consistent support. He has a very good heal (that scales with AP) and his aa regens mana meaning that he rarely has to leave the lane. Then he's got his stun and his two buffs. All in all, Leona is fun to play but I don't think she's viable. Taric, on the other hand, is played constantly because he's just so goddamn useful. So if it's a choice between Leona and Taric, choose Taric until further notice from riot on a Leona buff.
Leona is actually quite viable, and outclasses Taric when the team needs more control. Taric is superior when you need extra armor on the team, or a long range stun. It's a matter of team composition at that point, honestly.

All the current supports are very very viable save for... Karma? I think. Hell, CLG rolled out Cho'gath support sometime recently in the Regionals, I believe.
KenuZ said:
Well, elo isn't everything. That's why you see guys like Reginald (TSM's mid) with 1600 elo. Many of the top elo player are also quite bad, but just got carried by thier teams. That's important to remember. You can easily find people at 1500 who is better than the people at 2k.
What you're describing is the opposite of elo hell, which is as fictional as as the aforementioned. Also, Reginald is easily the worst player on TSM, in my humble opinion. There is also a huge divide between ranked 5's and ranked solo queue. Both are very different mindsets, but both contribute to one another.

Judgement101 said:
How to play LoL: Call your MIAs/SSs, don't steal your carry's farm/kills, WARD THE RIVER BUSHES!, periodically check Dragon and Baron, look at your map so see enemy positions in case your team doesn't call the MIA, DO NOT rely on your jungler early game to gank constantly, take the blame for your actions/don't needlessly blame your team for stuff, do not roam around by yourself unless you are extremely fed, no matter how fed your are crowd control is still crowd control, Karthus ultimate ISN'T a guarenteed killer so don't call a Karthus ulti unless you're 100% sure it will guarentee a kill for you or Karthus, a fed AP character doesn't mean anything late game, as Shen your ultimate is more effective if the person you use it on is about to die since the enemy will ALWAYS commit to killing them, NEVER tower dive a kill unless you have 2 other people in lane with you, Mid lane should ALWAYS gank top or bot when their opposition is MIA/SS.
Dat ADD advice.
 
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Any tips, changes or advice anyone can give me on this list would be GREATLY appreciated, either in this thread or in PM, and if you want to add me to give me some pointers or just play a few games, my summoner name in league is same as here, Raijha, in NA region.
Some tips from my experience with LoL (700~ wins):
  • - Be prepared to swap lanes if the situation calls for it. For instance, when faced with a mid Talon as an AP caster, you should really swap with your solo top.
    - Some deaths are worth more than others -- dying to kill the enemy's carry is worth it.
    - Everyone should buy wards, not just the "support". If you have 75g spare, buy a ward ...
    - Your list lacks a really good solo top -- the best bar none is Yorick: his ranged abilities include a slow, a life restore and a physical +, and all spawn phantoms that attack the enemy. All of his abilities buff him, and add to that an ultimate that will decimate anyone in a 1v1 fight (I often win when ganked), and you will dominate top lane.
 

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This thread is looking great! Thanks a lot guys. I definitely like the idea of getting used to draft at level 30 before going into ranked. I also fully plan to just play normal probably right up till season 3. I know there's a tonne to learn before I can play ranked, and so many things have to be learned through practice and experience, not just by reading a guide. I also need to unlock and learn to do well with all these champs first, and 30k IP just for the unlocks, not even counting runes, is a LOT to farm. Also yea, I'm a little afraid of how much worse the attitude is going to get in ranked. Thankfully if I do venture into ranked, I've got a bunch of friends to play with, so I'll almost never solo queue ranked.

Thanks for that link for the lol counters as well, that will be helpful. Also thanks all for the WW advice, I was debating about him anyway because I had heard he was pretty outmatched. As for SS calls and wards and stuff, that stuff I definitely know about. Also ADC Kennen as a trap! Good to know, noting that.

So far like I said, this thread has been super helpful, thanks all!
 

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Judgement101 said:
How to play LoL: Call your MIAs/SSs, don't steal your carry's farm/kills, WARD THE RIVER BUSHES!, periodically check Dragon and Baron, look at your map so see enemy positions in case your team doesn't call the MIA, DO NOT rely on your jungler early game to gank constantly, take the blame for your actions/don't needlessly blame your team for stuff, do not roam around by yourself unless you are extremely fed, no matter how fed your are crowd control is still crowd control, Karthus ultimate ISN'T a guarenteed killer so don't call a Karthus ulti unless you're 100% sure it will guarentee a kill for you or Karthus, a fed AP character doesn't mean anything late game, as Shen your ultimate is more effective if the person you use it on is about to die since the enemy will ALWAYS commit to killing them, NEVER tower dive a kill unless you have 2 other people in lane with you, Mid lane should ALWAYS gank top or bot when their opposition is MIA/SS.
Typically AP is less useful fed then other roles, but given that you said something about Karthus right beforehand, I'm going to point out that there are a decent chunk of AP characters that fed can be scary. Karthus is one, as if fed he can dive the whole team for kills pretty reliably. Sure he'll die, but in the process he should be picking up two kills at minimum and usually three plus.
 

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felbot said:
well simple, just remember the golden rule: say ss.
really there is nothing more frustrating than do die because someone was sleeeping.
This advice is dated, don't rely on SS/MIA, it's much easier just to watch your minimap rather than developing a habit of relying on your teammates to call SS/MIA.

My advice? If you ever want to continue liking the game, don't play ranked.
 

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KenuZ said:
Zyst said:
SecretNegative said:
Don't play ranked until you have like atleast 400 + wins in normal. Like seriously, that's minimum. LoL has an extremely large skillcap, which means you'll be improving all the time. So please, play draft pick instead when you hit 30, it's basically the same.
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

No seriously though, I only have like 250~ normal wins, 300 dominion or so and I am ranked at 1900 in solo queue, I began playing ranked when I was at 200 normal wins or so, just don't worry too much about it.

Also get Ryze, he's an amazing mid. And Diana, she counters every super squishy AP, however the people who are very very good will dodge your Q a lot, so you gotta learn how to use it, where they usually dodge to and other habits.
Well, elo isn't everything. That's why you see guys like Reginald (TSM's mid) with 1600 elo. Many of the top elo player are also quite bad, but just got carried by thier teams. That's important to remember. You can easily find people at 1500 who is better than the people at 2k.
Your point being...?
 

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Raijha said:
I recommend you go through through the tutorial/guides in this thread [http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2159470]. The thread aims to teach you some of the basics, but the most useful thing is that it has a compound of a bunch of different tutorials made by several people that are useful. That will at least teach you what the fundamental mechanics/strategies are so you can practice them.

The most important skill that most people seem to lack (including myself at times) is being able to multitask your lane farm/harrass and pay attention to the map. In addition to this warding is also a heavily desired trait that many people seem to lack. Calling MIAs is helpful, but nobody should be relying on them to know whats going on around the map.

As far as champions go I recommend (if you plan on solo/duo que) to be comfortable playing each role with at least two champions preferably three. If you have a 5 man pre-made then specializing is a good route although you want to be familiar with the other roles to be able to better respond/react.
 

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Ferisar said:
What you're describing is the opposite of elo hell, which is as fictional as as the aforementioned. Also, Reginald is easily the worst player on TSM, in my humble opinion. There is also a huge divide between ranked 5's and ranked solo queue. Both are very different mindsets, but both contribute to one another.
Elo hell exsist in a way

new people to ranked get dumped in at about 1200elo and it makes the games at that level more volatile. Long term ELO hell dose not exist but short term bad luck can exist. Most people get frustrated and call that elo hell.

It's not as bad as people clame it is but if you drop 5 games in a row due to AFK,troll or what not you tend to get frustrated. It just tends to happen more around a certain ELO hence ELO hell.