Looks like Anonymous got themselves hacked...

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FalloutJack

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"This isn't anarchy, Evey. This is chaos." - V For Vendetta

The irony here is so thick that you needa good machete to cut through it.
 

Lord Doomhammer

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pulse2 said:
Anon tries to be a worlds saviour, but without basic organisation within it's own group, all that is meaningless. They have no idea what each other are doing. They should take a page from the freemasons, if you want to form a secret worldwide group, make sure it's done properly.
Well... ya say that.

Have you played Mass Effect 2? And encountered Legion? Many voices talking at once, but with superaluminal communication comes clarity. Hundreds of people putting in information and ideas, and only because they can communicate between hundreds of people in an instant can any sort of consensus be formed.

There is very much the idea that anonymous has very few true 'hackers' and most of their actions have been the computer equivalent of swinging a sledge hammer at the problem. I like to compare it to a dog sled, just the one person who really knows how to do anything, but lots of force that can be very easily instructed how to have an impact.
 

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*facepalm* Ah, shit. I do hope this doesn't start the second Internet civil war. The Boxxy Incident was enough, but now Anonymous and (hypothetically) the guys to hacked the PSN are involved!?
 

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bibblles said:
pulse2 said:
Anon tries to be a worlds saviour, but without basic organisation within it's own group, all that is meaningless. They have no idea what each other are doing. They should take a page from the freemasons, if you want to form a secret worldwide group, make sure it's done properly.
Well... ya say that.

Have you played Mass Effect 2? And encountered Legion? Many voices talking at once, but with superaluminal communication comes clarity. Hundreds of people putting in information and ideas, and only because they can communicate between hundreds of people in an instant can any sort of consensus be formed.

There is very much the idea that anonymous has very few true 'hackers' and most of their actions have been the computer equivalent of swinging a sledge hammer at the problem. I like to compare it to a dog sled, just the one person who really knows how to do anything, but lots of force that can be very easily instructed how to have an impact.
On the other hand, the Geth also had the Heretics which were trying to wipe out all life or something. And the fact that you were given two choices on how to deal with them. Repogram them, thereby taking away any kind of freedom they might have had, or just destroy all of them, killing everyone who didn't fit with the 'collective'.

So yeah. Analogy backfire.
 

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Hey has anyone realised that, anonymous aren't even behind the Sony hack.

Whoever hacked Sony wanted everyone to think it was anonymous because it's a believable story.

Also Sony happens to be one of the 2 main home console companies (excluding the Wii as it's more of a spin off to the traditional console) with the other being Microsoft, who reported record profits after the hack.

little bit of food for thought there, let the conspiracies begin ^_^
 

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bibblles said:
pulse2 said:
Anon tries to be a worlds saviour, but without basic organisation within it's own group, all that is meaningless. They have no idea what each other are doing. They should take a page from the freemasons, if you want to form a secret worldwide group, make sure it's done properly.
Well... ya say that.

Have you played Mass Effect 2? And encountered Legion? Many voices talking at once, but with superaluminal communication comes clarity. Hundreds of people putting in information and ideas, and only because they can communicate between hundreds of people in an instant can any sort of consensus be formed.

There is very much the idea that anonymous has very few true 'hackers' and most of their actions have been the computer equivalent of swinging a sledge hammer at the problem. I like to compare it to a dog sled, just the one person who really knows how to do anything, but lots of force that can be very easily instructed how to have an impact.
I can see the legion comparison, but to me, there is a much better one.

Ever played Neverwinter Nights 2, Mask of the Betrayer?

The sole evil companion is a undead construct of thousands of damned souls, held together in a spirit bear husk. They speak in a high whisper of an incomprehensible language. They have a spokesperson at the head, the ?One? and they are the ?Many?.
Character: ?Who, or what, are you??
?:I am One? of Many:"

Evil without a single redeeming trait? Sounds like Anon to me.
 

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XHolySmokesX said:
Hey has anyone realised that, anonymous aren't even behind the Sony hack.

Whoever hacked Sony wanted everyone to think it was anonymous because it's a believable story.

Also Sony happens to be one of the 2 main home console companies (excluding the Wii as it's more of a spin off to the traditional console) with the other being Microsoft, who reported record profits after the hack.

little bit of food for thought there, let the conspiracies begin ^_^
That's the thing about Anonymous. If you say that you're Anonymous, you are. So them leaving a file saying that Anonymous did it, regardless of the motive behind it, means that Anonymous did it.

It's a...strange concept, but that's just how it goes.
 

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On the other hand, the Geth also had the Heretics which were trying to wipe out all life or something. And the fact that I chose to reprogram them, thereby taking away any kind of freedom they might have had.

So yeah. Analogy backfire.
I was talking about the architecture inside legion, the idea that because he is a computer and can instantly communicate with another runtime within the frame, he can reach a consensus in a timeframe that people could not. And because anon uses computers they can hold massive IRC voting sessions and discussions on topics in timeframes that a traditional vote could not do.
 

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XHolySmokesX said:
Hey has anyone realised that, anonymous aren't even behind the Sony hack.

Whoever hacked Sony wanted everyone to think it was anonymous because it's a believable story.

Also Sony happens to be one of the 2 main home console companies (excluding the Wii as it's more of a spin off to the traditional console) with the other being Microsoft, who reported record profits after the hack.

little bit of food for thought there, let the conspiracies begin ^_^
Haha I dig it and will attempt to spread it around. So much better then hearing users whine about anon (ops or otherwise).

OT; The only thing that can trip up Anon is Anon. Then Anon finds out who Anon is and sends flowers.
 

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CM156 said:
bibblles said:
pulse2 said:
Anon tries to be a worlds saviour, but without basic organisation within it's own group, all that is meaningless. They have no idea what each other are doing. They should take a page from the freemasons, if you want to form a secret worldwide group, make sure it's done properly.
Well... ya say that.

Have you played Mass Effect 2? And encountered Legion? Many voices talking at once, but with superaluminal communication comes clarity. Hundreds of people putting in information and ideas, and only because they can communicate between hundreds of people in an instant can any sort of consensus be formed.

There is very much the idea that anonymous has very few true 'hackers' and most of their actions have been the computer equivalent of swinging a sledge hammer at the problem. I like to compare it to a dog sled, just the one person who really knows how to do anything, but lots of force that can be very easily instructed how to have an impact.
I can see the legion comparison, but to me, there is a much better one.

Ever played Neverwinter Nights 2, Mask of the Betrayer?

The sole evil companion is a undead construct of thousands of damned souls, held together in a spirit bear husk. They speak in a high whisper of an incomprehensible language. They have a spokesperson at the head, the ?One? and they are the ?Many?.
Character: ?Who, or what, are you??
?:I am One? of Many:"

Evil without a single redeeming trait? Sounds like Anon to me.
I'm sure we could draw comparisons to video game characters all day (not that I'd mind), but claiming they are without a redeeming trait sounds a bit unrealistic to me, rather it seems a bit joyless.

I wouldn't dare go so far as to say they're the 'good guys' but they are most defiantly the 'cool guys.' They've got good motives, and they've provided great lulz even if at best they're computer tough guys, and at worst actual terrorists.
 

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It amuses me how all thing Anonymous (the group) are a sad yet glaring model, defining our society as being nowhere near prepared for a state of anarchy. Even when all other forms of government seem to fail, even a lack thereof seems to only generate infighting and idiots in the long run. Shame.
 

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Well, they started the page off with a very funny xkcd strip. That made me laugh so hurray I guess?

erbkaiser said:
Just because a rabid dog bites someone you don't like, doesn't mean you should go to it and pet it. It's just as likely to bite you as well.
Quoted for truth.
 

CM156_v1legacy

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bibblles said:
CM156 said:
bibblles said:
pulse2 said:
Anon tries to be a worlds saviour, but without basic organisation within it's own group, all that is meaningless. They have no idea what each other are doing. They should take a page from the freemasons, if you want to form a secret worldwide group, make sure it's done properly.
Well... ya say that.

Have you played Mass Effect 2? And encountered Legion? Many voices talking at once, but with superaluminal communication comes clarity. Hundreds of people putting in information and ideas, and only because they can communicate between hundreds of people in an instant can any sort of consensus be formed.

There is very much the idea that anonymous has very few true 'hackers' and most of their actions have been the computer equivalent of swinging a sledge hammer at the problem. I like to compare it to a dog sled, just the one person who really knows how to do anything, but lots of force that can be very easily instructed how to have an impact.
I can see the legion comparison, but to me, there is a much better one.

Ever played Neverwinter Nights 2, Mask of the Betrayer?

The sole evil companion is a undead construct of thousands of damned souls, held together in a spirit bear husk. They speak in a high whisper of an incomprehensible language. They have a spokesperson at the head, the ?One? and they are the ?Many?.
Character: ?Who, or what, are you??
?:I am One? of Many:"

Evil without a single redeeming trait? Sounds like Anon to me.
I'm sure we could draw comparisons to video game characters all day (not that I'd mind), but claiming they are without a redeeming trait sounds a bit unrealistic to me, rather it seems a bit joyless.

I wouldn't dare go so far as to say they're the 'good guys' but they are most defiantly the 'cool guys.' They've got good motives, and they've provided great lulz even if at best they're computer tough guys, and at worst actual terrorists.
Think about it though, they have no sense of order. They do whatever they feel like, whenever they feel like it, no matter the cost to others. To me, that is selfish, and selfishness is not cool.

Doing something ?for the lulz? may seem good on paper, but in reality, people suffer when others act on whims.

I personally have not seen a single good thing they have done, though I am sure there is something. But even then, any good they do is tainted by the evil they have done.

This is one cult I would be glad to see die.