Looks like Anonymous got themselves hacked...

[Hristo Tzonkov]

Anonymous is what they hope the internet will embody.Funnily it really is the internet anonymous tards that have no clear goals and do stuff for the lulz in a state of utter anarchy.That's how it shall remain.Or do you want some government over there to limit your access to youtube music.

Second Anonymous didn't hack Sony.Some anonymous dude(s) did.

 

[pulse2]

People keep trying to defend them, even self proclaimed anonymous members scattered throughout the web, but if an organisation can't get it's act together, then it kind of defeats the title of 'organisation'. I'm all for them defending rights an such, but they have to consider that some hackers will use their name as leverage to cause chaos.

Heck, if I wanted to be a cyber criminal and wanted to spite anonymous, I would just label myself part of the group, go hack some government sites and leave the anonymous tag around the place, once my ass is covered, who cares if anonymous takes the wrap, once no one can say it links to me and I've left no trace, who will people begin to hate? Certainly not me, they don't even know it was me, they'll hate anonymous.

That's the problem with doing things like this worldwide and 'anonymous', because you can't just take the credit for things that go right without taking the blame for things that go wrong. Regardless of what anon has been trying to achieve, their ways of going about doing it has lead to them being depicted in a negative light recently. Should I care, no, because I live by the motto that if you really believe in something, you wouldn't care if people know who you are, all the more reason they should respect you.

As such people supported George Hotz.

 

[Shoqiyqa]

However, if someone was to hack, for example, Halleyburton or DOW chemical and cause them severe financial damage, I'd be all for it. Justice from the masses.

Hacking Dow and sending a shedload of money to Bhopal [http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0505-09.htm] would be interesting, but it'd be the shareholders' money, not the directors' money, unless the hacker managed to change the bank account details in the computer that pays the directors' salaries.

Halliburton's all about the money unless you believe the bad jokes, but The Corporation of which Halliburton, FOX and the Republican Party are all subsidiaries {insert theme music of choice here} would make sure the taxpayers and the poor paid the price, not any of their rich boys.

Spoiler: The bad joke is also offensive.

What does a Russian sniper feel when he shoots a Chechen schoolgirl?
Recoil.
What does an Israeli sniper feel when he shoots a Palestinian schoolgirl?
Job satisfaction.
What does an American sniper feel when he shoots an Iraqi schoolgirl?
Sexually frustrated.

Laying aside the conspiracies, if you wanted to hit Halliburton you'd have to move an awful lot of money, and there'd be an awful lot of interest in finding it, so you couldn't keep any of it. They wouldn't half go looking for that money. You'd have to donate it all without ever touching it. Some sort of Palestinian Rights organisation might work, or someone like Greenpeace or Friends Of The Earth, as long as they're based somewhere that won't freeze their accounts and then send all their money straight to Dick Cheney and them to Cuba.

If you wanted to hit FOX, you could try aiming for their credibility, but you'd have to take your time, building up archives of evidence that they were deceiving their viewers, and many of their viewers would take their word for it that you were lying anyway. Credibility is easy to get among the willfully credulous.

 

[RichardThompson]

Spoiler: Sounds legit.

Rebecca-Black = 127.0.0.1 (Rebecca.Bla.ck)
nuke = 178.63.122.124 (sold.my.soul.to.the.devil.st)
gueriLLaPunK = 188.165.233.80 (guerilla.punk.loves.bananas.and.being.inside.ur.seriesoftub.es)
Anonyowl = 89.46.166.18 (insert.coin.to-create.another.vhost.us)

 

[Azrael the Cat]

Why do so many idiots keep talking about 'they', as though Anonymous is the name of an organisation, or a group with membership. It isn't. It's a meme that became popular on 4chan, referring to the tendency of people en masse to do things that they would never do if they were identifiable and individuals (e.g. 'Anonymous: because each of us are never as mean as all of us').

There IS no group called Anonymous. It's a joke on the mainstream news who don't understand net culture. Anonymous 'exists' in the same sense that Lolcats 'exists'. There was a bunch on 4chan who suggested that other 4channers all DDoS the Scientology website on the same day, and they used the meme Anonymous to refer to the fact that there WASN'T any organisation. Just a bunch of individuals posting as anonymous.

Then the media picked it up and mistook it for the name of an organisation, and so folks ran with it, with the joke being on everyone who thinks that there is a 'they' called Anonymous. Whenever they say 'Anonymous does...' they literally mean ANYONE posting without a tag. So, if you post under the tag Anonymous, then you can consider your post to be a post by Anonymous.

Talking about Anonymous as 'stupid/sympathetic/wise/idiotic' as though they were a group with membership is as moronic as saying it about Lolcats, or about 'The Cake is a Lie'. It's a net meme. That's it.

 

[RichardThompson]

Why do so many idiots keep talking about 'they', as though Anonymous is the name of an organisation, or a group with membership. It isn't. It's a meme that became popular on 4chan, referring to the tendency of people en masse to do things that they would never do if they were identifiable and individuals (e.g. 'Anonymous: because each of us are never as mean as all of us').

There IS no group called Anonymous. It's a joke on the mainstream news who don't understand net culture. Anonymous 'exists' in the same sense that Lolcats 'exists'. There was a bunch on 4chan who suggested that other 4channers all DDoS the Scientology website on the same day, and they used the meme Anonymous to refer to the fact that there WASN'T any organisation. Just a bunch of individuals posting as anonymous.

Then the media picked it up and mistook it for the name of an organisation, and so folks ran with it, with the joke being on everyone who thinks that there is a 'they' called Anonymous. Whenever they say 'Anonymous does...' they literally mean ANYONE posting without a tag. So, if you post under the tag Anonymous, then you can consider your post to be a post by Anonymous.

Talking about Anonymous as 'stupid/sympathetic/wise/idiotic' as though they were a group with membership is as moronic as saying it about Lolcats, or about 'The Cake is a Lie'. It's a net meme. That's it.

Like al-qaeda, it's an umbrella term given to internet hackers. The media know they can get people to rally against something, as long as it has a name and a face. Although "anonymous" still lacks the latter, it has been named.

 

[justcallmeslow]

People don't seem to get that anons did it doesn't meant Anonymous did it.

If I shoot someone and leave a note saying "for England!" it doesn't mean England did it. Just because someone does something in the name of Anonymous, it doesn't mean the whole group is involved. Not that there even is a group, as other have said.

Something can only be attributed to Anonymous if a large group of people act together under the banner in an organised fashion.

 

[LCP]

Hmm... Who wants popcorn! But nobody is getting any of my skittles tho!

Lol what a mess...

 

[Lord Doomhammer]

Think about it though, they have no sense of order. They do whatever they feel like, whenever they feel like it, no matter the cost to others. To me, that is selfish, and selfishness is not cool.

Doing something ?for the lulz? may seem good on paper, but in reality, people suffer when others act on whims.

I personally have not seen a single good thing they have done, though I am sure there is something. But even then, any good they do is tainted by the evil they have done.

This is one cult I would be glad to see die.

Thing is, its not a cult. Its an idea; its not a perfect idea, but it is a very big idea.

This isn't just an organization, its not a group, it has no leaders, and it has no members.

As long as one has the ability to shed their identity anonymous will always exist. You can arrest anyone you like, close the facebook pages, confiscate their computers; but no matter how many times you whack that mole its gonna come back and its gonna come back angrier and in greater numbers than you can handle.

"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask and he will tell you the truth." -Oscar Wilde

And again I think you should have seen them working, its the order of a bee hive. It doesn't make sense to outside people, but when you cut out the buzz of beating wings and focus on the dialog there was always a sense of actual purpose. Be that purpose of attacking those who would shut down wikileaks, or going after governments that censor public media, or even just trying to shut up a bunch of hooting dickholes (like the westbro baptist church).

Here's an example of what I'm talking about.

Spoiler

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

Think about it though, they have no sense of order. They do whatever they feel like, whenever they feel like it, no matter the cost to others. To me, that is selfish, and selfishness is not cool.

Doing something ?for the lulz? may seem good on paper, but in reality, people suffer when others act on whims.

I personally have not seen a single good thing they have done, though I am sure there is something. But even then, any good they do is tainted by the evil they have done.

This is one cult I would be glad to see die.

Thing is, its not a cult. Its an idea; its not a perfect idea, but it is a very big idea.

My point is this. Look at the way they refer to themselves. Look at any statements they make. ?We are? is their idea. They seem to think they are one mind in a collective. It is like mantra that the repeat. They wear masks of their Christ figure(Guy Fawkes), and celebrate particular days of the year that have significance to that figure. They seem to loathe any established order, and issue fatwas against any who wrong them.

By my perspective, they are a cult of amoral hacktivists

And I really don?t care what they did against other groups. The fact is that anyone with the power to do that can and likely will do bad things if they don?t have accountability.

 

[^=ash=^]

Anon infighting nice. Won't be long before the whole joint goes up in flames.

We can only hope. We don't need no water let the mother F-er burn.

OT: I don't really care that much, but the idea of a rogue admin amuses me.

xxx

 

[minimacker]

MumboJumbo = 127.0.0.1 (dun.no)

I see some were prepared.

 

[Char-Nobyl]

Erm...okay? Whoever hacked the site seems to think that Anonymous is a single cohesive group. It's not. That's why it's so hard to nail down. If anything, this is anon screwing with anon.

 

[Char-Nobyl]

My point is this. Look at the way they refer to themselves. Look at any statements they make. ?We are? is their idea. They seem to think they are one mind in a collective.

Great job reading into it literally. Anonymous is totally a hivemind.

It is like mantra that the repeat.

Almost like a motto, or a slogan. You know: the sort of thing almost any organization on Earth has. Hell, even individuals have catchphrases.

They wear masks of their Christ figure(Guy Fawkes), and celebrate particular days of the year that have significance to that figure.

Because being inspired by anyone makes you cultists of that individual. *eyeroll*

They seem to loathe any established order, and issue fatwas against any who wrong them.

I guess that's why they tend to target specific groups with notoriously bad PR and greater care for greed than human dignity, like the Co$ and RIAA.

And I really don?t care what they did against other groups.

So in other words...past actions have no effect on your opinion of a group or individual? Good to know that you regard rapists and murderers with the same paranoid suspicion as Joe Everyman.

The fact is that anyone with the power to do that can and likely will do bad things if they don?t have accountability.

Boo-hoo, cry me a river. Anonymous has no more power than any other independently run group. They just happen to have people who are good with computers. If you're genuinely this afraid of them, I'm surprised you're this close to a computer on the off-chance that big, scary Anonymous might make it explode...over the Internet.

But really? A cult? In an effort to show how insane that line of logic is, let's extend it to other groups.

Group X celebrates various days of the year as holidays of great significance. Members of Group A often adorn their homes with banners depicting Group A's emblem. They are even willing to take up weapons to fight against any who would stand in the way of Group A's goals.

Now, take a wild guess what Group X is. It starts with an 'A'...

 

[Actual]

Anon has been infighting as long as there's been an anonymous. Not news.

 

[megajon]

Anonymous themselfs have confirmed it and have named names and this ryan cleary who is named as the person said he is forming a splinter group with former members.

http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/862817-anonymous-hacked-by-hacker-who-was-hacked-off

 

[StriderShinryu]

As much as I do approve of a few things they`ve done, I don`t approve of the way they conduct themselves... thus I find this rather hilarious. Given their recent hypocrisy, it really was guaranteed to happen.

 

[Jerome9157]

what do you have to do to get on that ip list? be a constant user? visit the site? talk in chat?

 

[Canid117]

Anonymous didn't get hacked. A bunch of Anons did. There is a difference. You cant hack a subculture but you can hack people and organizations within that subculture. That is what happened here.