Lore be damned!

[Proverbial Jon]

I was playing Skyrim today and I wondered, do you ever find yourself purposely ignoring in-game lore in order to create your own preferred gaming experience?

My "lore ignore" would be that I like to completely disregard the fact that 200 years passed between the events of Oblivion and Skyrim. That way I get to continue using my Khajiit character that saved Cyrodiil in Skyrim as well! She's been hopping borders for some time now, from Morrowind to Cyrodiil and now into Skyrim. The only problem is, each time she enters a new land she's selected as some sort of world saving champion... I think the gods have it in for her.

So guys, what aspects of a game's established lore do you alter in your mind to benefit your personal experience? Or, is it just me?

ADDITIONAL: No one's allowed to mention Mass Effect 3's ending!

 

[SajuukKhar]

You are aware that the main characters of the ES games have achieved CHIM and can do basically anything they want.

 

[Aerosteam]

Well, the ending for Mass Eff-

ADDITIONAL: No one's allowed to mention Mass Effect 3's ending!

Shit.

I try to think there's more to Pokemon that catching wild monsters and force them to battle each other until they faint.

Having them fight to the death is better.

 

[krazykidd]

Well, the ending for Mass Eff-

ADDITIONAL: No one's allowed to mention Mass Effect 3's ending!

Shit.

I try to think there's more to Pokemon that catching wild monsters and force them to battle each other until they faint.

Having them fight to the death is better.

They can die , hence the pokemon graveyard .

OT:i don't follow lore anyways , so i got no useful input .

 

[EightGaugeHippo]

I think I'm with OP. My main Elder Scrolls character has been with me since Morrowind.
If it where cannon, my character would have alot under his belt... lets take a tally.

Spoiler

-Got arrested
-Joined the Blades
-Is the Nerevarine
-Killed Dagoth Ur
-Ridded Morrowind of blight
-became a vampire
-Cured vampire disease
-Killed Almelexia
-Saved Mournhold
-Became a werewolf
-Beat Hircine at his own hunt
-Cured werewolf disease
-Got arrested again
-Joined Blades again
-Stole an Elder Scroll
-Stopped the mythic dawn
-Help Martin banish Mehrunes Dagon
-Stopped Oblivion Crisis
-Entered the realm of Sheogorath
-Became Sheogorath
-Got arrested ONCE again
-Survived Imperial execution
-Is Dragonborn
-Joined Blades once again
-Became a werewolf again (didnt cure it)
-Mastered the way of the voice
-Found another Elder Scroll
-Went to Sovengaard
-Killed Alduin
-Killed an Emporer

If someone in real life had that list of fate-of-the-world changing acts, they would be hailed as God of the universe.

Yeah, if you look at it that way, the lore doesnt hold up. But I don't care, we're dealing with a badass over here.

 

[BiggyShackleton]

You are aware that the main characters of the ES games have achieved CHIM and can do basically anything they want.

I googled that and found a video of the two fittest members of Girls Aloud kissing. Nice one.

 

[Atmos Duality]

They can die , hence the pokemon graveyard .

Good thing their gestation period is only a day.
Otherwise, the Daycare center manager has a LOT of explaining to do.

 

[DoPo]

I think I'm with OP. My main Elder Scrolls character has been with me since Morrowind.
If it where cannon, my character would have alot under his belt... lets take a tally.

Spoiler

-Got arrested
-Joined the Blades
-Is the Nerevarine
-Killed Dagoth Ur
-Ridded Morrowind of blight
-became a vampire
-Cured vampire disease
-Killed Almelexia
-Saved Mournhold
-Became a werewolf
-Beat Hircine at his own hunt
-Cured werewolf disease
-Got arrested again
-Joined Blades again
-Stole an Elder Scroll
-Stopped the mythic dawn
-Help Martin banish Mehrunes Dagon
-Stopped Oblivion Crisis
-Entered the realm of Sheogorath
-Became Sheogorath
-Got arrested ONCE again
-Survived Imperial execution
-Is Dragonborn
-Joined Blades once again
-Became a werewolf again (didnt cure it)
-Mastered the way of the voice
-Found another Elder Scroll
-Went to Sovengaard
-Killed Alduin
-Killed an Emporer

If someone in real life had that list of fate-of-the-world changing acts, they would be hailed as God of the universe.

Yeah, if you look at it that way, the lore doesnt hold up. But I don't care, we're dealing with a badass over here.

Hmm, technically, when you spend some time in the jail, your skills drop. The more you spend there, the more they drop. So it would make sense to start off with the same character as before in the prison - they've just spent A LOT of time in prison.

 

[NinjaDeathSlap]

I went into Skyrim having no idea about any of the preceding lore anyway, and didn't work too hard to find out any information that wasn't directly relevant to what I was doing. TBH I think I was better off for it because from what I've heard The Elder Scrolls lore makes comic-book continuity seem about as complex as the The Very Hungry Caterpillar.

Also OP, you do realise that you've now doomed yourself to a thread full of people saying that they pretend ME3's ending doesn't exist. You've brought this on yourself...

[sub]...and yes, I do pretend that ME3's ending doesn't exist. I tried to think of another answer to your question, but then I would be lying.[/sub]

 

[ThePenguinKnight]

Well, the ending for Mass Eff-

ADDITIONAL: No one's allowed to mention Mass Effect 3's ending!

Shit.

I try to think there's more to Pokemon that catching wild monsters and force them to battle each other until they faint.

Having them fight to the death is better.

I like to think that not only do they fight to the death, but to gain experience the victorious Pokemon eats the defeated Pokemon's heart to gain it's power.

 

[Proverbial Jon]

I think I'm with OP. My main Elder Scrolls character has been with me since Morrowind.
If it where cannon, my character would have alot under his belt... lets take a tally.

Spoiler

-Got arrested
-Joined the Blades
-Is the Nerevarine
-Killed Dagoth Ur
-Ridded Morrowind of blight
-became a vampire
-Cured vampire disease
-Killed Almelexia
-Saved Mournhold
-Became a werewolf
-Beat Hircine at his own hunt
-Cured werewolf disease
-Got arrested again
-Joined Blades again
-Stole an Elder Scroll
-Stopped the mythic dawn
-Help Martin banish Mehrunes Dagon
-Stopped Oblivion Crisis
-Entered the realm of Sheogorath
-Became Sheogorath
-Got arrested ONCE again
-Survived Imperial execution
-Is Dragonborn
-Joined Blades once again
-Became a werewolf again (didnt cure it)
-Mastered the way of the voice
-Found another Elder Scroll
-Went to Sovengaard
-Killed Alduin
-Killed an Emporer

If someone in real life had that list of fate-of-the-world changing acts, they would be hailed as God of the universe.

Yeah, if you look at it that way, the lore doesnt hold up. But I don't care, we're dealing with a badass over here.

Considering the Elder Scrolls themselves are about the most protected, sacred magical items in the entire series, the fact that our characters have managed to possess two of the damn things is a pretty huge feat in itself!

[sub]...and yes, I do pretend that ME3's ending doesn't exist.[/sub]

[sub]...me too[/sub]

 

[Deadyawn]

I didn't actually pay any attention to the ingame lore of any elder scrolls game . Gets in the way of killing things and taking their stuff.
If there is stupid stuff that I think is silly then I may ignore it for my own verismilitude. Of course, if its completely mind numbingly stupid then that might be a tad difficult. And that's where fallout 3 broke down for me. But I'm constantly retconning stuff in most narrative driven games I play although they tend to be minor details.

 

[Esotera]

The whole bit in Oblivion where I'm destined to save everyone in the province. Turns out that is true, but I'm also supposed to instigate a massive genocide as soon as that's over, so there will be no-one left alive in Cyrodil.

 

[Kyrian007]

Yeah, my Tamriel is a very different place than the "canon" world of TES. It's a credit to the series that you can do that. Although my hero in Skyrim is not the hero from Oblivion (I actually allowed him to die, although I've ignored the "canon" TES lore of the champion of Cyrodiil actually becoming Sheogorath.) In fact, my first 2 Skyrim characters are "false" Dovahkiin. 1 was just to goofy to be real (a joke run thru on a friends cpu with an orc named "Hump.") The 2nd worried the Greybeards because after they recognized him as the dragonborn, he suffered a complete breakdown after the events of the college of winterhold questline. That 2nd character (a breton named Elyas) had fallen hard for Mirabelle Ervine and was planning on attempting to start a relationship with her (translation... wanted to get married for the cheevo before moving on with the game.)

Spoiler

Coming back from Labyrinthian with the staff of magnus, I run in to Tolfdir outside the college with the students. I thought it was cool one of my first dialogue options was "Where is Mirabelle," it's what Elyas would have cared about the most.

She didn't make it... she died ensuring the students made it out safely. As sad and noble an ending as a character could come to. Elyas lost it, broke into the college... and tortured and murdered that elf bastard Ancano who was responsible for her death.

After that Elyas wandered until finding himself at the Nightgate Inn, where he spent some time chasing skooma with nord meads. After which he ventured north where he threw his amulet of Mara into the sea. Then he spent the rest of the playthru on a Mer killing spree. First just the Thalmor, then Altmer in general, then any Mer would do (at this point its just a spree.) After clearing out the Dwemer ruins under Markarth of Falmer, and having to flee after attacking an Orsimer stronghold, I wrapped up that character's tale before he could be "my" canon dragonborn by saying he left Skyrim headed back to Daggerfall before getting killed on a "visit" to the Isles.

My latest character is a Nord. It's looking like he might be the "real" dragonborn.

 

[Shrapenel92]

You are aware that the main characters of the ES games have achieved CHIM and can do basically anything they want.

I googled that and found a video of the two fittest members of Girls Aloud kissing. Nice one.

Hey I googled that and got nothing of the sort! No fair!

 

[Sacman]

Well, not because of that... but a lot of the time Lore is super boring and can really take you out of the experience... it's like whilst in the middle of a game reading 20 chapters to learn about the Dragon Reproductive system or something... it's just not there...<.<

 

[evilneko]

Oh yeah, breakin' teh lore....

My FO3 character is 12.
She also gained pyrokinesis from the experiments aliens did on her.
My FNV character is my FO3 character.
My Skyrim character is 12, may or may not be the Dragonborn--I haven't decided yet--and a bandit with an affinity for fire magic.

 

[Dandark]

I usaully just ignore the lore to make my own scenarios for characters sometimes, I do this a lot in Mount and blade + mods.

 

[teebeeohh]

so while we are pretending things don't exist because they don't make sense or are stupid:
deus ex invisible war
devil may cry 2
ever resident evil game except 1 and 4
the weird new homm universe
giant space lasers of understanding
the last c&c (the dumb one)
the "climax" of dragon age 2
...

that's what i could think of right now, i may come back later