Losing faith in humanity

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Miumaru

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Lazarus Long said:
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By black culture I mean thug as you likely figured, and that culture is out to ruin everything King strived for. Half of it is Malcom X's fault though. They are resistant to being equal with white people and also commonly are against LGBT rights too, despite having been in a similar situation. Being part of a repressed group is likely my whole reason for being so equal rights minded, not against it.
People are like that across the board. My own hometown shitkickers are the same thugs in different costumes. As a straight white male, my opinion has about as much weight as these words I'm typing, but it is sad to see freedoms that people fought, suffered, and died for being squandered on thuggery and willful ignorance. But that's just the squeaky wheel, I think. Nobody notices the people who mind their own business and behave decently.
Maybe it's just the human tendency to find someone lower on society's totem pole to take aggression and frustration out on. Maybe it's just simple hatefulness. If I understood the human animal, I wouldn't be the bitter, reclusive misanthrope I am.
Best of luck to you. You seem like one of the good ones.
I just want equality for everyone. True equality. Man = Woman = White = Black = Gay = Transexual = Christian = Jewish = Muslim = Human.
 

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Lazarus Long said:
Miumaru said:
By black culture I mean thug as you likely figured, and that culture is out to ruin everything King strived for. Half of it is Malcom X's fault though. They are resistant to being equal with white people and also commonly are against LGBT rights too, despite having been in a similar situation. Being part of a repressed group is likely my whole reason for being so equal rights minded, not against it.
People are like that across the board. My own hometown shitkickers are the same thugs in different costumes. As a straight white male, my opinion has about as much weight as these words I'm typing, but it is sad to see freedoms that people fought, suffered, and died for being squandered on thuggery and willful ignorance. But that's just the squeaky wheel, I think. Nobody notices the people who mind their own business and behave decently.
Maybe it's just the human tendency to find someone lower on society's totem pole to take aggression and frustration out on. Maybe it's just simple hatefulness. If I understood the human animal, I wouldn't be the bitter, reclusive misanthrope I am.
Best of luck to you. You seem like one of the good ones.
Ignorance takes many forms maybe it is human nature,People sacrificed so much for their beliefs and now people take all that for granted,It's sad really,and if humanity understood humanity the world would probably be great but since it may never happen Nihilism keeps me going.
 

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In currently living in a small redneck town for the summer and already I want to blow my brains out. Thank god for alcohol.
 

Lazarus Long

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Miumaru said:
I just want equality for everyone. True equality. Man = Woman = White = Black = Gay = Transexual = Christian = Jewish = Muslim = Human.
Funnily enough, I think the stickiest bits of that equation would be the ones that actually are matters of choice. Killing or even just hating someone for believing in a particular flavour of god is the height of insanity.
It's very hard to shake belief. My mother, for example, is convinced that all homosexuals are child molesters, and no impassioned speech of mine is going to change that.

MalkavianPretzelKing said:
Ignorance takes many forms maybe it is human nature,People sacrificed so much for their beliefs and now people take all that for granted,It's sad really,and if humanity understood humanity the world would probably be great but since it may never happen Nihilism keeps me going.
I'm all about the nihilism. If nothing has any meaning beyond what we give it, and these few decades we have before our bodies give out are all we have, why, for Crom's sake why spend any of that precious, horribly finite time being or making anyone else miserable? The world is a pretty tough place to live in as it is. It doesn't need any help.
I seem to hold unpopular opinions out here in Real Life, though.
 

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Lazarus Long said:
Miumaru said:
I just want equality for everyone. True equality. Man = Woman = White = Black = Gay = Transexual = Christian = Jewish = Muslim = Human.
Funnily enough, I think the stickiest bits of that equation would be the ones that actually are matters of choice. Killing or even just hating someone for believing in a particular flavour of god is the height of insanity.
It's very hard to shake belief. My mother, for example, is convinced that all homosexuals are child molesters, and no impassioned speech of mine is going to change that.

MalkavianPretzelKing said:
Ignorance takes many forms maybe it is human nature,People sacrificed so much for their beliefs and now people take all that for granted,It's sad really,and if humanity understood humanity the world would probably be great but since it may never happen Nihilism keeps me going.
I'm all about the nihilism. If nothing has any meaning beyond what we give it, and these few decades we have before our bodies give out are all we have, why, for Crom's sake why spend any of that precious, horribly finite time being or making anyone else miserable? The world is a pretty tough place to live in as it is. It doesn't need any help.
I seem to hold unpopular opinions out here in Real Life, though.
Well, my point of adding religions is that people should not use religion itself as a reason to hate. I dont hate christians. Just by the book ones....yes that book. I have met good people who are devout christians though. Also my other point is we are all human no matter what. Being christian does not make you better than a gay person.
 

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Lazarus Long said:
Funnily enough, I think the stickiest bits of that equation would be the ones that actually are matters of choice. Killing or even just hating someone for believing in a particular flavour of god is the height of insanity.
It's very hard to shake belief. My mother, for example, is convinced that all homosexuals are child molesters, and no impassioned speech of mine is going to change that.
My mother tries to force me into christianity,and my grandmother from my fathers side had me baptised against my will in a mexican church,and whenever I question god or try to show any religious freedom they never listen,it's rather funny whenever I ask about certain things.
 

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Miumaru said:
Well, my point of adding religions is that people should not use religion itself as a reason to hate. I dont hate christians. Just by the book ones....yes that book. I have met good people who are devout christians though. Also my other point is we are all human no matter what. Being christian does not make you better than a gay person.
Exactly. Jesus was a pretty cool guy. His fan club will take anybody, though. People like my mother use Christianity as some kind of hypocritical tool to feel superior to everyone else. Some of them actually pay attention to what the dude said. It makes me wonder if in another 2 millennia (assuming we haven't blown each other up yet) people will be killing each other in the name of Superman or John Galt.
None of those labels says anything worthwhile about a person, but people still get hung up on them. The asshole in me wants to say that some imply a certain level of credulousness, but I try to keep him quiet.
The asshole in me also says that even in a hypothetical future where every human is vaguely mocha-coloured and religion is a non-issue, people would find ridiculous differences to hate each other over. I hate that asshole.
 

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MalkavianPretzelKing said:
My mother tries to force me into christianity,and my grandmother from my fathers side had me baptised against my will in a mexican church,and whenever I question god or try to show any religious freedom they never listen,it's rather funny whenever I ask about certain things.
Yikes. My family never tried to drown me or overtly try to convert me, but every time I argue with her about anything religious, she gives me the same look I gave my stepson today when he insisted that 55 plus 5 is 40.
The really scary thing is that they probably truly believe that they are trying to help you. Faith can't be reasoned with. Oil and water. Occam's razor just doesn't work on magical thinking.
 

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Lazarus Long said:
MalkavianPretzelKing said:
My mother tries to force me into christianity,and my grandmother from my fathers side had me baptised against my will in a mexican church,and whenever I question god or try to show any religious freedom they never listen,it's rather funny whenever I ask about certain things.
Yikes. My family never tried to drown me or overtly try to convert me, but every time I argue with her about anything religious, she gives me the same look I gave my stepson today when he insisted that 55 plus 5 is 40.
The really scary thing is that they probably truly believe that they are trying to help you. Faith can't be reasoned with. Oil and water. Occam's razor just doesn't work on magical thinking.
In fact today talking to my mom I said "If god forgives every soul then why is there a hell?"...She just got a funny look and ignored me just like whenever I criticize God,They say the Devil was banished because his pride kept him from bowing to humans when god told him to,That hardly seems to justify eternal damnation,but thats just my opinion.
 

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MalkavianPretzelKing said:
Well more specifically losing faith in my town,apparently here you have to and can only listen to mainstream rap(I get funny looks when I listen to good music),any game other than CoD sucks,and every so often someone who doesn't even know me will point and say something about me being a "******" or "Jew c*nt" oh and you have to dress "gangsta" and speak in slang,and I'm tired of all the stupidity,is it like that anywhere else or is my town the epicenter of human stupidity?
I posted a solution to bullying in another thread. It would work just as well for your situation.
 

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MalkavianPretzelKing said:
In fact today talking to my mom I said "If god forgives every soul then why is there a hell?"...She just got a funny look and ignored me just like whenever I criticize God,They say the Devil was banished because his pride kept him from bowing to humans when god told him to,That hardly seems to justify eternal damnation,but thats just my opinion.
I've always seen Lucifer as a Promethean figure, especially if you take Genesis at face value. He tempted Adam and Eve with... knowledge? Knowledge is... evil? Really? So God wanted Man to remain ignorant, while the serpent tried to enlighten us? Who's the bad guy again?
Cue my mother saying something like "Oh, that's just what the Devil wants you to think."
So the Devil wrote Genesis?
"Shouldn't you be donating to the ACLU? Or NAMBLA?"
Nice talking to ya, Mom. I'll be at my house, counting slowly to ten.
 

Red Magic

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Lazarus Long said:
MalkavianPretzelKing said:
In fact today talking to my mom I said "If god forgives every soul then why is there a hell?"...She just got a funny look and ignored me just like whenever I criticize God,They say the Devil was banished because his pride kept him from bowing to humans when god told him to,That hardly seems to justify eternal damnation,but thats just my opinion.
I've always seen Lucifer as a Promethean figure, especially if you take Genesis at face value. He tempted Adam and Eve with... knowledge? Knowledge is... evil? Really? So God wanted Man to remain ignorant, while the serpent tried to enlighten us? Who's the bad guy again?
Cue my mother saying something like "Oh, that's just what the Devil wants you to think."
So the Devil wrote Genesis?
"Shouldn't you be donating to the ACLU? Or NAMBLA?"
Nice talking to ya, Mom. I'll be at my house, counting slowly to ten.
Heres a good song bout interpreting god.


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My hometown only got the issue of desperate 14 year olds running up and down downtown screaming how they are original, when they really are nothing but copycats (You are original when you create somethign new by yourself... not when you copy the style/personality of someone/tomething else). Also we got the ever so normal ''too drunk to know the difference between borderline crazy and downright stupid'' people roaming the late night streets.
 

NiPah

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"We live in a decaying age. Young people no longer respect their parents. They are rude and impatient. They frequently inhabit taverns and have no self-control."
Inscription, from a 6000 year-old Egyptian tomb

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."
Source: Attributed to SOCRATES by Plato