Love for Mccain

[ffxfriek]

Where is the love for Mccain as mediocre as he is he's still good and better then Obama. He is from Chicago. Chicago means corrupt. If you higher taxes you destroy jobs. If you put a tax on people with income of 250k+ a year then no one will want to work and you can't expand the company. Plus poverty will continue to rise because no one wants to work because the government will take their money. There's no such thing as free healthcare because the tax payers pay for it. On my final note about how bad Obama is he is pro-choice.

Now McCain on the other hand is pro-life. You can't start a war to end when it gets expensive. Yes the war should've ended a many years ago but no one wanted to get their hands dirty. Lowering taxes creates jobs and you have more money to expand the company. People are always complaining no woman is in the government. Well now Palin is the vice-president candidate and she is a woman and not exposed to corruption. She is pro-life and a good pick overall. Sure I was hoping for maybe Romney or Huckabee but what the heck I like Palin just as well.

I'm curious why would you vote for who. Please no he's better then the other really get into the issues on why. I searched for a thread like this but found none so sorry if its a repeat.

as for me I'm for McCain. His views on energy are good. Drill offshore. I also like how the government would buy bad mortgages and work out a payment plan for people to easily pay them.

 

[axia777]

I am glad you have an opinion and hopefully can vote. Do so. But know this, these things you have said are your opinion, not facts. Happy voting, if you can.

 

[Pipotchi]

. If you put a tax on people with income of 250k+ a year then no one will want to work and you can't expand the company.

This makes no sense, its not like Obama is going to take everything after your first $250,000, just a higher percentage than the government takes now.

 

[cleverlymadeup]

ok so the fact that ppl that make more than 250k pay less taxes than those who make less is fair? not really

as for McCain, he's the reason why you have the economic crisis you do, he will also drag the war out longer and longer

 

[Pseudonym2]

His views on energy are good. Drill offshore.

That's a terrible idea.

1 It will cost a lot money
2 Remember all those hurricanes that keep hitting the gulf? Now imagine drills being there.
3 It will take as much as decade to affect the gas prices.
4. The gas will belong to whoever drills it. Who ever drills it will sell it to the highest bidder, most likely China.
5. It's a short term solution that doesn't help our addiction to oil.

On taxes. The debt is at several trillion dollars with a multi billion dollar war going on. Whoever is elected will have to raise taxes. (Bush was the first leader in all of recorded human history to cut taxes and go to war at the same time)

On the Iraq war. Most Americans are against it. Continuing it would be arrogant at best, criminal at worst.

 

[ffxfriek]

His views on energy are good. Drill offshore.

That's a terrible idea.

1 It will cost a lot money
2 Remember all those hurricanes that keep hitting the gulf? Now imagine drills being there.
3 It will take as much as decade to affect the gas prices.
4. The gas will belong to whoever drills it. Who ever drills it will sell it to the highest bidder, most likely China.
5. It's a short term solution that doesn't help our addiction to oil.

but it helps to ease it as we work on alternative energy sources i.e. solar and wind

 

[black lincon]

please don't make threads attacking Obama for things he does right. its clear that you generally don't understand the issues. and I'm not saying that because I'm a liberal bastered. there are reasons to like McCain based on your views. the pro life thing you brought up is an excellent example, however, higher taxes and increased spending do not equal economic collapse. go look back at the great depression, we spent our way out of that, and take a look at the last 4 presidents(including bush Jr.), 3 of them were fiscal conservatives and their administrations had deficits. Clinton was the only "tax and spend liberal" in the recent past and he had a surplus, doesn't that tell you something? and the drill baby drill line, ya oil companies already have plenty of land to drill that they don't use, giving them more land would be pointless.
on a side note Chicago=/=corrupt, and don't insult people from there because we will end you.

 

[ffxfriek]

i am from chicago...by midway airport....mayor daley tony rezko all corrupt and they are from chicago

 

[Slycne]

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A ?Use it or Lose It? Approach to Existing Oil and Gas Leases.

Obama and Biden will require oil companies to develop the 68 million acres of land (over 40 million of which are offshore) which they have already leased and are not drilling on.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/newenergy_more#relief

I don't like either candidate, but at least get your facts straight.

 

[black lincon]

that doesn't make the entire city corrupt, I'd figure someone from the city would get that(although Stroger is a dick).

 

[ffxfriek]

that doesn't make the entire city corrupt, I'd figure someone from the city would get that(although Stroger is a dick).

lol i didnt vote for him ooh i also forgot to mention blagoivech

 

[Pseudonym2]

His views on energy are good. Drill offshore.

That's a terrible idea.

1 It will cost a lot money
2 Remember all those hurricanes that keep hitting the gulf? Now imagine drills being there.
3 It will take as much as decade to affect the gas prices.
4. The gas will belong to whoever drills it. Who ever drills it will sell it to the highest bidder, most likely China.
5. It's a short term solution that doesn't help our addiction to oil.

but it helps to ease it as we work on alternative energy sources i.e. solar and wind

Look back at points three and four.

Also Palin is not immune to corruption as she still wanted the "bridge to nowhere" before she realized how unpopular it was. When she opposed the bridge she still kept some of the money anyway.

You claim that a reason to support Palin is feminism (apologies if I'm putting words in your mouth). She charged women for their own rape kits and she opposes mandatory equal pay. Her church in notoriously sexist with the whole "women are supposed to be subservient to men thing."

 

[Alex_P]

If you put a tax on people with income of 250k+ a year then no one will want to work and you can't expand the company.

Umm, you remember the 90s? Because he's basically just putting the highest bracket's tax rate back to that level.

-- Alex

 

[ffxfriek]

His views on energy are good. Drill offshore.

That's a terrible idea.

1 It will cost a lot money
2 Remember all those hurricanes that keep hitting the gulf? Now imagine drills being there.
3 It will take as much as decade to affect the gas prices.
4. The gas will belong to whoever drills it. Who ever drills it will sell it to the highest bidder, most likely China.
5. It's a short term solution that doesn't help our addiction to oil.

but it helps to ease it as we work on alternative energy sources i.e. solar and wind

Look back at points three and four.

Also Palin is not immune to corruption as she still wanted the "bridge to nowhere" before she realized how unpopular it was. When she opposed the bridge she still kept some of the money anyway.

You claim that a reason to support Palin is feminism (apologies if I'm putting words in your mouth). She charged women for their own rape kits and she opposes mandatory equal pay. Her church in notoriously sexist with the whole "women are supposed to be subservient to men thing."

funny u mention that obamas anti- white people and anti-america pastor is no better....and ive never heard of the sexist church and unfair payment?? can ya get me some proof of that please. and ive heard of the bridge to nowhere but i didnt hear she kept some of the money...again please can ya get me some info on this. this thread is finally getting interesting. thanks

 

[Alex_P]

Also, outlawing abortions doesn't actually help reduce the abortion rate all that much. You need good education and social programs for that -- something which, in recent history, the Republican party has failed at horribly (particularly with abstinence-only "education").

Even some Catholic bishops are biting the bullet and supporting "pro-choice" candidates who they think will deploy realistic programs that will decrease the actual abortion rate rather than failed campaigns to make it illegal.

-- Alex

 

[Mistah Kurtz]

Do you read what you write before you hit 'post'?

1 It will cost a lot money

Buying foreign oil costs a lot more

2 Remember all those hurricanes that keep hitting the gulf? Now imagine drills being there.

That's not the only place they want to drill.

3 It will take as much as decade to affect the gas prices.

And? Do you honestly think we'll be using alternative energies as a primary fuel in ten years time? Don't be a fool.

4. The gas will belong to whoever drills it. Who ever drills it will sell it to the highest bidder, most likely China.

In that unlikely event, we still will earn taxes from the revenue earned by exporting said oil.

5. It's a short term solution that doesn't help our addiction to oil.

It's not meant to - it's meant to ease the prices of oil until we can develop reliable cost effective sources of alternative energy.

On the Iraq war. Most Americans are against it. Continuing it would be arrogant at best, criminal at worst.

That's it..keep spouting those talking points.

Also, outlawing abortions doesn't actually help reduce the abortion rate all that much. You need good education and social programs for that -- something which, in recent history, the Republican party has failed at horribly (particularly with abstinence-only "education").
-- Alex

Yeah, actually outlawing abortion does reduce the number of abortions. That's like saying keeping marijuana illegal doesn't affect the amount of it in circulation. Any pot smoker will tell you horror stories of multi-month dry spells they've gone through - we're going through one right now and I haven't been able to find any weed for over 2 months now because of a huge pot bust in our state. You have a point about abstinence education, but to say that we should continue to practice a legal form of (what some consider) murder because people are going to illegally murder anyway is absolutely nonsensical.

 

[Graustein]

Also, outlawing abortions doesn't actually help reduce the abortion rate all that much. You need good education and social programs for that -- something which, in recent history, the Republican party has failed at horribly (particularly with abstinence-only "education").

Even some Catholic bishops are biting the bullet and supporting "pro-choice" candidates who they think will deploy realistic programs that will decrease the actual abortion rate rather than failed campaigns to make it illegal.

-- Alex

My god, you're the first person I've seen here who holds this view (that the way to reduce abortions is education, not banning them outright). High fives are in order.

 

[black lincon]

that doesn't make the entire city corrupt, I'd figure someone from the city would get that(although Stroger is a dick).

lol i didnt vote for him ooh i also forgot to mention blagoivech

once again not making the entire city and every citizen in it corrupt.

His views on energy are good. Drill offshore.

That's a terrible idea.

1 It will cost a lot money
2 Remember all those hurricanes that keep hitting the gulf? Now imagine drills being there.
3 It will take as much as decade to affect the gas prices.
4. The gas will belong to whoever drills it. Who ever drills it will sell it to the highest bidder, most likely China.
5. It's a short term solution that doesn't help our addiction to oil.

but it helps to ease it as we work on alternative energy sources i.e. solar and wind

Look back at points three and four.

Also Palin is not immune to corruption as she still wanted the "bridge to nowhere" before she realized how unpopular it was. When she opposed the bridge she still kept some of the money anyway.

You claim that a reason to support Palin is feminism (apologies if I'm putting words in your mouth). She charged women for their own rape kits and she opposes mandatory equal pay. Her church in notoriously sexist with the whole "women are supposed to be subservient to men thing."

funny u mention that obamas anti- white people and anti-america pastor is no better....and ive never heard of the sexist church and unfair payment?? can ya get me some proof of that please. and ive heard of the bridge to nowhere but i didnt hear she kept some of the money...again please can ya get me some info on this. this thread is finally getting interesting. thanks

did you even hear the entirety of reverend wrights speech? or even the context of that short excerpt? no because the media focused on one thing, his whole god dam America. the reason he was saying god dam America was because of the corruptness of it. most of what he said in the excerpts I've seen are true. I'm going to assume that your white and that you don't see racism on an everyday basis but it does happen, and it is a major problem. the 3 strike law in particularly was aimed at minority's and is also generally useless. on top of that the rest of his speech that you didn't see was about how to better America. I'm going back on my; you didn't educate yourself enough on these issues.

 

[ffxfriek]

that doesn't make the entire city corrupt, I'd figure someone from the city would get that(although Stroger is a dick).

lol i didnt vote for him ooh i also forgot to mention blagoivech

once again not making the entire city and every citizen in it corrupt.

His views on energy are good. Drill offshore.

That's a terrible idea.

1 It will cost a lot money
2 Remember all those hurricanes that keep hitting the gulf? Now imagine drills being there.
3 It will take as much as decade to affect the gas prices.
4. The gas will belong to whoever drills it. Who ever drills it will sell it to the highest bidder, most likely China.
5. It's a short term solution that doesn't help our addiction to oil.

but it helps to ease it as we work on alternative energy sources i.e. solar and wind

Look back at points three and four.

Also Palin is not immune to corruption as she still wanted the "bridge to nowhere" before she realized how unpopular it was. When she opposed the bridge she still kept some of the money anyway.

You claim that a reason to support Palin is feminism (apologies if I'm putting words in your mouth). She charged women for their own rape kits and she opposes mandatory equal pay. Her church in notoriously sexist with the whole "women are supposed to be subservient to men thing."

funny u mention that obamas anti- white people and anti-america pastor is no better....and ive never heard of the sexist church and unfair payment?? can ya get me some proof of that please. and ive heard of the bridge to nowhere but i didnt hear she kept some of the money...again please can ya get me some info on this. this thread is finally getting interesting. thanks

did you even hear the entirety of reverend wrights speech? or even the context of that short excerpt? no because the media focused on one thing, his whole god dam America. the reason he was saying god dam America was because of the corruptness of it. most of what he said in the excerpts I've seen are true. I'm going to assume that your white and that you don't see racism on an everyday basis but it does happen, and it is a major problem. the 3 strike law in particularly was aimed at minority's and is also generally useless. on top of that the rest of his speech that you didn't see was about how to better America. I'm going back on my; you didn't educate yourself enough on these issues.

oh dear race has nothing to do with it. and i see racism daily. my brain is a filter i filter it out and listen to my heavy metal and go on about my day. it helps me keep my sanity.....and i do lots of research though frankly im sickened by americas past and nolonger have the desire to continue researching this before i hate my country even more then i already dislike it.