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Yoshi Bassist

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junkmanuk said:
Yoshi Bassist said:
Well it sounds like some one doesnt like me. You dont know wether or not i have earned it. So dont say i havent, unless you're spying on me, in which case stop. If you dont "pirate" music, fine, just dont get mad at me and tell me to die. For all you know i saved 50 orphans from a burning building i do deserve the music.
An interesting and paradoxical blend of meritocracy and communism there... Are you planning on entering politics?

You could always earn _money_ with your orphan saving exploits and spend the money on music.

Actually, the domain name www.orphansaving.com is available if you need a start point for your new business? The orphans could get say 5% of the total donations - that should give you a tidy profit to purchase music with. Of course, people might protest that you're not passing on your huge profits and start saving orphans without your help, but you can always take legal action against them for stealing your profits.

...I need to drink less coffee...
Im not planning on entering....or am i?
 

Tattaglia

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Inverse Skies said:
Tattaglia said:
Oh how I love being vague. Unfortunately, you are incorrect. You lose all of your Wacky Points, and I'm not revealing my true agenda until someone guesses it.
I had a 50/50 chance and went for option C. You can't get much stupider than that lol.
That's okay! Watch this and have your soul uplifted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ndx_IdlUQU

junkmanuk said:
Yoshi Bassist said:
Well it sounds like some one doesnt like me. You dont know wether or not i have earned it. So dont say i havent, unless you're spying on me, in which case stop. If you dont "pirate" music, fine, just dont get mad at me and tell me to die. For all you know i saved 50 orphans from a burning building i do deserve the music.
An interesting and paradoxical blend of meritocracy and communism there... Are you planning on entering politics?

You could always earn _money_ with your orphan saving exploits and spend the money on music.

Actually, the domain name www.orphansaving.com is available if you need a start point for your new business? The orphans could get say 5% of the total donations - that should give you a tidy profit to purchase music with. Of course, people might protest that you're not passing on your huge profits and start saving orphans without your help, but you can always take legal action against them for stealing your profits.

...I need to drink less coffee...
I'd say drink more. That post was full of awesome.
 

timmytom1

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Tattaglia said:
Inverse Skies said:
Tattaglia said:
So...
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Stupidity...
Overusing...
Ellipses...
Can't...
Breathe...

*dies*

Guess which side of the argument I'm on. Go on, guess!
Both, you're obviously fencesitting.
Oh how I love being vague. Unfortunately, you are incorrect. You lose all of your Wacky Points, and I'm not revealing my true agenda until someone guesses it.
It`s not them space sharks with lasers is it?
 

Tattaglia

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timmytom1 said:
Tattaglia said:
Inverse Skies said:
Tattaglia said:
So...
Much...
Stupidity...
Overusing...
Ellipses...
Can't...
Breathe...

*dies*

Guess which side of the argument I'm on. Go on, guess!
Both, you're obviously fencesitting.
Oh how I love being vague. Unfortunately, you are incorrect. You lose all of your Wacky Points, and I'm not revealing my true agenda until someone guesses it.
It`s not them space sharks with lasers is it?
Sadly enough, 'tis. I must now liquidate you.

Nothing personal. *chargin mah lazor*
 

Legion

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E_nchanted said:
toxic_waster said:
excuse me but i dont think you should be talking about engaging in piracy around the forums, its one way to get disliked or banned.

i personally like buying cds,movies and games because
1. i like having the boxes and
2. i know some musicians and i enjoy making game mods so i understand the effort they go through to make these.

dont pirate people, it is stealing, and you should not think it of anything less
Well sorry (slight sarcasm on my end) whe are not all as rich as you are, i think the main reason people pirate, is because whe just don't have the money to buy Cd/Dvd's
Then go without then. I can't afford a brand new Ferrari, shall I go steal one?

Stealing something you do not need is just as bad regardless of material worth.

The idiocy of some people is beyond me...
 

timmytom1

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Tattaglia said:
timmytom1 said:
Tattaglia said:
Inverse Skies said:
Tattaglia said:
So...
Much...
Stupidity...
Overusing...
Ellipses...
Can't...
Breathe...

*dies*

Guess which side of the argument I'm on. Go on, guess!
Both, you're obviously fencesitting.
Oh how I love being vague. Unfortunately, you are incorrect. You lose all of your Wacky Points, and I'm not revealing my true agenda until someone guesses it.
It`s not them space sharks with lasers is it?
Sadly enough, 'tis. I must now liquidate you.

Nothing personal. *chargin mah lazor*
Huh figured as much *is burned to ashes by laser*
 

fix-the-spade

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E_nchanted said:
* Never typed the word "Games even one's", You typed CD's/DVD's, you never mentioned a specific medium but games, music and films come on CD's and DVD's, basc logic dude.

* Never typed the word "Video's' even one's" See above

* So you're saying I don't need music to live? you think its acceptable to only do things for the system a.k.a. working etc. listen pall, what you say, might sound true at first but if you have nowhere to escape reality ( like music ) you would end up trying to kill you're self, did you know about 60% of the children (age range 12-18) is stressed out and depressed, what would happen to those people if they didn't had music/videogames. You think those people should just die because they can't effort to pay for these things?
That's exactly what I'm saying, if you're so fragile you genuinely need music to live then get some help.
Even if you really are then there's still radio, radio is free, you clearly have the internet so you have unlimited access to it 24 hours a day, on hundreds of stations playing all the genres you could ever hope for. Don't try and argue that not stealing somehow cuts you off from music, it's bullshit and you know it.


* Posting Music Video's on Youtube is just as illegal as downloading it. Fair point, there's still the record label's official youtube channels, of which there are many

* No, you don't know me. Likewise
Point I'm trying to make is, I don't think music is a luxury good, you need it to keep up the mood. The only necessities in life are food, a home and warmth (also, a bike, try downloading one of those). Everything else is a luxury by definition
You do not have to steal. Any argument to contrary is wrong, argue back about it as much as you like but if you've been raised properly then you know I'm right.

#PS.
Anyone else remember when advocating piracy would get you a permanent ban from the Escapist forums? Thems were the days (nostalgic glow)...
 

Arachon

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Danzorz said:
Also die in that corner.
Just because you want it for free doesn't mean you should have it, you did nothing to earn that music, twits like you are killing the music industry.
No, the record companies that actively are promoting carbon copy crap bands are what is killing the music industry.
 

The_Prophet

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I honestly try not to pirate music. I search every store in Novi Sad and if I don't find it then I pirate it.
 

Samurai Goomba

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Machines Are Us said:
E_nchanted said:
toxic_waster said:
excuse me but i dont think you should be talking about engaging in piracy around the forums, its one way to get disliked or banned.

i personally like buying cds,movies and games because
1. i like having the boxes and
2. i know some musicians and i enjoy making game mods so i understand the effort they go through to make these.

dont pirate people, it is stealing, and you should not think it of anything less
Well sorry (slight sarcasm on my end) whe are not all as rich as you are, i think the main reason people pirate, is because whe just don't have the money to buy Cd/Dvd's
Then go without then. I can't afford a brand new Ferrari, shall I go steal one?

Stealing something you do not need is just as bad regardless of material worth.

The idiocy of some people is beyond me...
It's not stealing, it's counterfeiting. Get your legal terms right. We've already defined the exact legal semantics of video game piracy, and movie/music piracy is no different, except the actual musicians aren't seeing a direct loss from the piracy (since they're being paid a flat rate/wage.) And in order to prove anything is truly bad/wrong, first you have to prove the existence of objective morality, which is a whole other can of worms. Unless you're just saying piracy is bad to YOU. In which case, why should he/she care?

The idiocy of some other people is beyond me. Although I do admit openly advocating piracy on The Escapist is pretty dumb.

Oh, and did we have to bring back the fallacious "stolen car" argument again? I practically wrote a book proving the inaccuracies of such a comparison in the last one of these topics...

Piracy and religion. Two subjects everyone on this site must agree to never create threads for again (the reason being that there's never any resolution to the discussion).
 

Baby Tea

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E_nchanted said:
Haha I laughed here, ok listen lad, short summery of my life, I go to school (30hours) I work (20 hours) a week, so don't go saying stuff if you're just a spoiled little brat, I have to use the money to keep myself alive, unlike you I don't have a mom that pays my sports/school/clothes or anything! I save money so i can go to college, get my drivers license and such sort. So yea if you don't have any money left, its ok to "steal".
No it isn't.
Nothing what you've said justifies your theft. Not one thing. Not having the money isn't reason to steal. You aren't entitled to something you didn't earn or pay for. You sound like some spoiled little millennial, and a pretentious one based on your response to Toxic.

I really want a few games. Guess what? I've got car payments, insurance, my wife's school loans, my line of credit, my rent, gas, food, and my internet and cable bills to pay. Plus a few more on top of those. Looks like I'll just DO WITHOUT because I don't have the money.

That's called 'life'.
And it isn't right or reason or justification to steal anything as frivolous as music or games.
Grow up.
 

phoenix352

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honestly i do pirate music..i dont buy the albums for 1 basic reason .. i usually only like 1-2 songs from a single band/artist... sept LinkinPark i like all their music..(i do have an album of em :D a legit 1 )
 

E_nchanted

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Baby Tea said:
E_nchanted said:
Haha I laughed here, ok listen lad, short summery of my life, I go to school (30hours) I work (20 hours) a week, so don't go saying stuff if you're just a spoiled little brat, I have to use the money to keep myself alive, unlike you I don't have a mom that pays my sports/school/clothes or anything! I save money so i can go to college, get my drivers license and such sort. So yea if you don't have any money left, its ok to "steal".
No it isn't.
Nothing what you've said justifies your theft. Not one thing. Not having the money isn't reason to steal. You aren't entitled to something you didn't earn or pay for. You sound like some spoiled little millennial, and a pretentious one based on your response to Toxic.

I really want a few games. Guess what? I've got car payments, insurance, my wife's school loans, my line of credit, my rent, gas, food, and my internet and cable bills to pay. Plus a few more on top of those. Looks like I'll just DO WITHOUT because I don't have the money.

That's called 'life'.
And it isn't right or reason or justification to steal anything as frivolous as music or games.
Grow up.
OI! I'm not justifying anything! I'm giving you my personal opinion why I think pirating Music is Ok. I'm not saying its justice I'm just saying its OK. oh and you might wanna look up the word: "millennial" cause I don't think it means what you think it does. ~peace out

"it's better to be a pirate then to join the navy" ~Steve Jobs
 

Baby Tea

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E_nchanted said:
OI! I'm not justifying anything! I'm giving you my personal opinion why I think pirating Music is Ok. I'm not saying its justice I'm just saying its OK.
Well, you're wrong.

oh and you might wanna look up the word: "millennial" cause I don't think it means what you think it does.
Yes it does:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Y#Howe_and_Strauss:_.22The_Millennials.22
 

k_rafftry

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Baby Tea said:
No it isn't.
Nothing what you've said justifies your theft. Not one thing. Not having the money isn't reason to steal. You aren't entitled to something you didn't earn or pay for. You sound like some spoiled little millennial, and a pretentious one based on your response to Toxic.

I really want a few games. Guess what? I've got car payments, insurance, my wife's school loans, my line of credit, my rent, gas, food, and my internet and cable bills to pay. Plus a few more on top of those. Looks like I'll just DO WITHOUT because I don't have the money.

That's called 'life'.
And it isn't right or reason or justification to steal anything as frivolous as music or games.
Grow up.
This

I love the "I can't afford it argument". You walk into a shop. You see a bottle of coke. You check pocket. You are broke. You pick up bottle of coke and walk out of shop. Shopkeeper yells "you can't steal that, it's illegal". You reply "Oh, don't worry, it's okay, I'm broke". Shopkeeper runs after you and beats you with a shoe.

Also,
fix-the-spade said:
#PS.
Anyone else remember when advocating piracy would get you a permanent ban from the Escapist forums? Thems were the days (nostalgic glow)...
I suggest the lovely red report button.
 

BubbleGumSnareDrum

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Limewire is for fucking scrubs. Have fun with your viruses.

My 300+ gigs of unsorted, pirated music came from torrents, and rightfully so. I'd have another 50 gigs of viruses if I'd used Limewire for all that. Not like I'd have even found half the stuff on there, but you know.
 

KeyMaster45

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I find it funny the focus of piracy is mostly music, if when stuff like this came up (don't deny this thread popped up cause of TPB's verdict) people understood that music isn't the one and only thing being pirated maybe more attention would be given to things like movies and video games.

We can sit here, argue, *****, and throw shoes at each other all day about the ethics of piracy but here is the stark matter of fact on the subject. Its here, it grew out of a want for digital access to various forms of media, and until publishers learn to adapt better than iTunes to such a demand on the market it won't be going anywhere for a very long time.

Oh, and sorry but no one needs music to survive, I rarley listen to any form of music and I'm a very happy productive person. To say that you need music to "keep the mood" sounds more like something a stoner would say while still high rather than an actual argument.
 

Ghost

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posts on this forum are property of their authors, by quoting anyone you are unlawfully stealing their work, and by this website providing you with a 'quote' button they are aiding in crime.

ANYWAYS.

piracy is wrong, I cannot disagree with that, however most entertainment mediums are ridiculously over priced. I bought 2 CD's yesterday for £10 in hmv, which is pretty much only because the CD I originally went in for and which was released last year was £18! why the hell is it a small fortune?!

when I buy games I have to buy them second hand or wait until play.com has a sale, but I still buy them... their not necessary so i just get them occasionally, last game I bought was gta4 2 or 3 months back, we can all live without new games folks, no need to turn to piracy to get our games like some junkie stabbing his dealer becuase he has no cash for... drugs.

bad example but you see what i mean!

remember kids, drugs are bad mmm k!