Lucid dreaming
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Really?Ldude893 said:
Huh.
I've wondered why certain things are unreadable or blurred in dreams. For example, more and more recently I've noticed that if my dream has someone I know from really life in it I will only see their face a few brief times, the rest of the dream I don't look or their face is blurred.
OP: I can do it sometimes, when I do it's awesome. It tends to be in dreams where I'm fighting something or in.....certain situations with females more than anything else. I can rarely do it in nightmares, granted that's one of the scariest things about them.
A few times I almost entered a lucid dream. But everytime, I either tripped, or a loud noise starteled and my body jerks in reflex, waking me up again.
It's so horribly frustrating!
It's so horribly frustrating!
I lucid dream when I am not under a lot of stress, my most recent one was I was walking around a medievil like castle, if there was a room or something I didn't like being in, I walked out and closed the door before moving on. Though, I have a 'dream friend' who I walk around with all the time in my dreams, we usually end up in a lot of weird situations, evil Pac-Man anyone?
I wish I could actually have lucid dreams; however, there has only been one time that I've realized I was in a dream and stayed there. Every other time that the thought "I'm in a dream" or "I'm dreaming" has crossed my mind I instantly wake up. I think it's either the realization (I've become aware of my 'reality') that I'm dreaming &/or too much of my brain becomes active.
The only time I actually stayed asleep while still fully knowing that I'm in a dream, the whole me-being-able-to-control-everything backfired... and not just the fact that it didn't work, every time I tried to control or do something to change the dream my dream fought me tooth-'n-nail and won.
To be honest, even though the thought of being able to control every aspect of my dreams sounds awesome, I believe what Freud and Jung taught where our dreams and the subconscious (or unconscious in the case of Freud) where they are trying to tell us something. And not in a prophetic sense, but in a sense where I can better understand my emotional state. So if I were to 'tamper' with my dreams by being able to control them, then I would doubt the authenticity of my dream.
The only time I actually stayed asleep while still fully knowing that I'm in a dream, the whole me-being-able-to-control-everything backfired... and not just the fact that it didn't work, every time I tried to control or do something to change the dream my dream fought me tooth-'n-nail and won.
To be honest, even though the thought of being able to control every aspect of my dreams sounds awesome, I believe what Freud and Jung taught where our dreams and the subconscious (or unconscious in the case of Freud) where they are trying to tell us something. And not in a prophetic sense, but in a sense where I can better understand my emotional state. So if I were to 'tamper' with my dreams by being able to control them, then I would doubt the authenticity of my dream.
It might be that you just forget all those details afterwards. I've been wondering about this too. I have this theory, that Im trying to test at the moment, that maybe dreams are just running on a really simple graphic engine and my imagination just fills in the details while I go on with my dreams.lewism247 said:
Other thing that might have something to do with this is that things like clocks and books could have ANYTHING written on them, so while I can remember what the clock looked like and where it was placed, when I ask myself "what time was the clock showing?" "anything between 00:01 to 24:00, I dunno...Its not my job to tell the clock how to do it's job."
I have also been trying to use "doubt" in my dreams. It either nullifies or generates something unexpectable. For example, when theres an point in my dream where I fear that theres something bad around the corner or those usual predictable ambush layouts that I get in games, I replace the incoming zombie horde with ducks using the word "or" when thinking about the outcome. With "doubt" it basicly just passess that scenerio and moves on to the next one.
Hmmmm, all very plausible theories.Popido said:
I think maybe, as you said, that since there are so many different ways things such as clocks and letters can say, our brain can't process it while in a sedated state, so it just misses out the details while keeping the basic shape.
Pretty much, though I dont think its because our brains can't process it, but because we just dont give it enough information to process so it just simplifies it.lewism247 said:
For example. If I gave you a book IRL and told you to tell me whats written on it, you could just open the book and read a phrase from it. Now if I did that again in the dreamworld, you probably would reply to me that the text is too blurry to read, but actually there is no text. But because its a book you just assume that it must have text on it.
Actually "assume" is the word that I was looking for. People just assume that clocks show time and books have text on them. If you have already come into a conclusion that "your late for the work" or "its the lord of the rings" then they will affirm this presumation, tho they still might not have any actual text on them.
Well that's kinda the big thing right there, I have some sort of sleeping disorder (I have a fairly detailed doctor's description of it around here somewhere but I can't be arsed to find it, let alone translate it), and unless heavily medicated or drunk I don't sleep long enough to enter REM sleep, thus I hardly dream. Or so I'm told. And after over a dozen of different kinds of medication, some with side-effects nastier than the actual problem, I've pretty much given up on meds.megamanenm said:
So in simple reality this just means that when I go to bed it takes me on average about 2-3 hours to finally fall asleep, and after that I wake up at least once every hour. The influence is mostly notable in lousy short-term memory, being prone to headaches and illness and basically having a fucking cold for almost a year now, but now we're getting offtopic.
I had a good one, started as a nightmare, being hunted by ghosts and all you could see of them were these horrific masks that would phase in in they got close to you. Just before I got caught I woke up bolt upright. Was back asleep in 5 mins, and my dream now I knew it was a dream took on the likeness of a Scooby Doo cartoon 
I've been able to do so. I've known I was in a dream and I could change the place but it wouldn't be what I exactly wanted. But because the majority of my dreams are fucked up (see the Catapocolypse dream I had couple weeks ago) I generally know when I'm in a dreaming state.
Oh yeah definately, and I remember alot of those dreams too.
There is even alot of emotion locked away, I keep some dreams as personal memories that even effect my decisions and who I am today. To have that feeling of whatever I think of manifest itself and I can touch and feel it is...empowering, to say the least.
it isn't all the time, but at least once a week I am being actively cognizant in my dreams.
I doubt that there really is any difference between a "real" memory and a dream memory.
btw, I literally sleep ten hours a day at the very least.
There is even alot of emotion locked away, I keep some dreams as personal memories that even effect my decisions and who I am today. To have that feeling of whatever I think of manifest itself and I can touch and feel it is...empowering, to say the least.
it isn't all the time, but at least once a week I am being actively cognizant in my dreams.
I doubt that there really is any difference between a "real" memory and a dream memory.
btw, I literally sleep ten hours a day at the very least.
Happens pretty regularly.
Common themes are shooting people I once knew (And I can never get the gun to function properly...bullets flop out of the barrel, the gun falls apart in my hand, etc.)
Entering an underwater environment and being able to breathe (I usually wake up and find myself near-smothering in my pillow)
Breaking and entering places I once lived, especially the house I grew up in and not being able to turn on any lights.
Then there is the usually mish-mash of crazy shit like fighting weird monsters.
If you really want to trip the fuck out in your dreams...become a heavy pot smoker for a year and then quit cold turkey...the next couple of weeks after that you will dream from lights out to waking, and remember it all.
Common themes are shooting people I once knew (And I can never get the gun to function properly...bullets flop out of the barrel, the gun falls apart in my hand, etc.)
Entering an underwater environment and being able to breathe (I usually wake up and find myself near-smothering in my pillow)
Breaking and entering places I once lived, especially the house I grew up in and not being able to turn on any lights.
Then there is the usually mish-mash of crazy shit like fighting weird monsters.
If you really want to trip the fuck out in your dreams...become a heavy pot smoker for a year and then quit cold turkey...the next couple of weeks after that you will dream from lights out to waking, and remember it all.
I pretty much used the same technique, except that when I was scared I'd hit the emergency ESC button. Worked like a charm. Still does, actually.AvsJoe said:
An even cooler idea would be to try the Matrix hand-in-front-stop-bullets method. I think I'll try that the next time I get a bad dream. With the appropriate shades, of course.