I think you misunderstand what I mean when I say the CIA is against us. They aren't directly attacking Americans (unless they have legitimate reason to think they're a terrorist threat), but the operations they conduct I can say with 100% certainty include misinformation and false flags to keep Americans in check and to keep those in power above popular hatred.Rem45 said:Serious reality check coming from the guy that thinks the CIA is against us? One to many movies mate.xeed said:What's wrong with you fucking idiots? Are you so butthurt by a few anons ddosing the escapist that you honestly think Lulzsec's targets don't have every bit of what they get coming to them?
Oh god, those poor companies losing millions (while still netting billions in profit)! That poor CIA, which keeps secrets for a REASON! The government is our best friend guys, the CIA would never plot against us!
You all need to have a serious reality check.
Big companies hire people, those people live off of what those companies pay them. If a company has to make lay offs because they lose money from one of their money makers being destroyed then how is that good?
You get your head out of your ass. Big companies aren't evil organisations and the CIA isn't tapping your phone line.
Hmm. It is dubious, but at the same time hacker groups get into one-upsmanship contests quite frequently. Attacking a publicly "successful" group like Lulzsec and exposing them as script kiddies is just business as usual (only, more public).ultrachicken said:I highly doubt this is legitimate.
A pragmatic black ops security agency hides its activity from the public?xeed said:I think you misunderstand what I mean when I say the CIA is against us. They aren't directly attacking Americans (unless they have legitimate reason to think they're a terrorist threat), but the operations they conduct I can say with 100% certainty include misinformation and false flags to keep Americans in check and to keep those in power above popular hatred.
I don't care if people lose jobs. That's good. The more the system collapses the more people will realize the system is absolute garbage.
Which is why the only system that would work with the least amount of corruption and abuse is a lack of a system.Atmos Duality said:Hmm. It is dubious, but at the same time hacker groups get into one-upsmanship contests quite frequently. Attacking a publicly "successful" group like Lulzsec and exposing them as script kiddies is just business as usual (only, more public).ultrachicken said:I highly doubt this is legitimate.
A pragmatic black ops security agency hides its activity from the public?xeed said:I think you misunderstand what I mean when I say the CIA is against us. They aren't directly attacking Americans (unless they have legitimate reason to think they're a terrorist threat), but the operations they conduct I can say with 100% certainty include misinformation and false flags to keep Americans in check and to keep those in power above popular hatred.
I don't care if people lose jobs. That's good. The more the system collapses the more people will realize the system is absolute garbage.
STOP THE PRESSES!
And Pray-tell what system WOULD work? All human organizations are susceptible to corruption, and is in fact, expected. Even if we revolted and started a new government tomorrow, corruption would reform along with the new order established. It's human nature, and it cannot be prevented; only treated.
Wait, are you saying that open source projects are something to base a system of government and economics around? Really?xeed said:Which is why the only system that would work with the least amount of corruption and abuse is a lack of a system.Atmos Duality said:Hmm. It is dubious, but at the same time hacker groups get into one-upsmanship contests quite frequently. Attacking a publicly "successful" group like Lulzsec and exposing them as script kiddies is just business as usual (only, more public).ultrachicken said:I highly doubt this is legitimate.
A pragmatic black ops security agency hides its activity from the public?xeed said:I think you misunderstand what I mean when I say the CIA is against us. They aren't directly attacking Americans (unless they have legitimate reason to think they're a terrorist threat), but the operations they conduct I can say with 100% certainty include misinformation and false flags to keep Americans in check and to keep those in power above popular hatred.
I don't care if people lose jobs. That's good. The more the system collapses the more people will realize the system is absolute garbage.
STOP THE PRESSES!
And Pray-tell what system WOULD work? All human organizations are susceptible to corruption, and is in fact, expected. Even if we revolted and started a new government tomorrow, corruption would reform along with the new order established. It's human nature, and it cannot be prevented; only treated.
If you think that wouldn't work I'll direct you to open source projects, which often work brilliantly.
xeed said:Which is why the only system that would work with the least amount of corruption and abuse is a lack of a system.Atmos Duality said:Hmm. It is dubious, but at the same time hacker groups get into one-upsmanship contests quite frequently. Attacking a publicly "successful" group like Lulzsec and exposing them as script kiddies is just business as usual (only, more public).ultrachicken said:I highly doubt this is legitimate.
A pragmatic black ops security agency hides its activity from the public?xeed said:I think you misunderstand what I mean when I say the CIA is against us. They aren't directly attacking Americans (unless they have legitimate reason to think they're a terrorist threat), but the operations they conduct I can say with 100% certainty include misinformation and false flags to keep Americans in check and to keep those in power above popular hatred.
I don't care if people lose jobs. That's good. The more the system collapses the more people will realize the system is absolute garbage.
STOP THE PRESSES!
And Pray-tell what system WOULD work? All human organizations are susceptible to corruption, and is in fact, expected. Even if we revolted and started a new government tomorrow, corruption would reform along with the new order established. It's human nature, and it cannot be prevented; only treated.
If you think that wouldn't work I'll direct you to open source projects, which often work brilliantly.
No, not a system of "government", a system that operates WITHOUT a government that operates with direct democracy and regional cooperation. Law enforcement, military and intelligence agencies would be the only exceptions. Literally every other government agency is a pile of unneeded garbage.CM156 said:Wait, are you saying that open source projects are something to base a system of government and economics around? Really?xeed said:Which is why the only system that would work with the least amount of corruption and abuse is a lack of a system.Atmos Duality said:Hmm. It is dubious, but at the same time hacker groups get into one-upsmanship contests quite frequently. Attacking a publicly "successful" group like Lulzsec and exposing them as script kiddies is just business as usual (only, more public).ultrachicken said:I highly doubt this is legitimate.
A pragmatic black ops security agency hides its activity from the public?xeed said:I think you misunderstand what I mean when I say the CIA is against us. They aren't directly attacking Americans (unless they have legitimate reason to think they're a terrorist threat), but the operations they conduct I can say with 100% certainty include misinformation and false flags to keep Americans in check and to keep those in power above popular hatred.
I don't care if people lose jobs. That's good. The more the system collapses the more people will realize the system is absolute garbage.
STOP THE PRESSES!
And Pray-tell what system WOULD work? All human organizations are susceptible to corruption, and is in fact, expected. Even if we revolted and started a new government tomorrow, corruption would reform along with the new order established. It's human nature, and it cannot be prevented; only treated.
If you think that wouldn't work I'll direct you to open source projects, which often work brilliantly.
OT: Again, eff these hackers. Take down LulzSec
Why do you think it would be any different? It would operate under direct democracy on a regional scale (eg, the "blueprint" of society being completely open to individual contribution)Shock and Awe said:xeed said:Which is why the only system that would work with the least amount of corruption and abuse is a lack of a system.Atmos Duality said:Hmm. It is dubious, but at the same time hacker groups get into one-upsmanship contests quite frequently. Attacking a publicly "successful" group like Lulzsec and exposing them as script kiddies is just business as usual (only, more public).ultrachicken said:I highly doubt this is legitimate.
A pragmatic black ops security agency hides its activity from the public?xeed said:I think you misunderstand what I mean when I say the CIA is against us. They aren't directly attacking Americans (unless they have legitimate reason to think they're a terrorist threat), but the operations they conduct I can say with 100% certainty include misinformation and false flags to keep Americans in check and to keep those in power above popular hatred.
I don't care if people lose jobs. That's good. The more the system collapses the more people will realize the system is absolute garbage.
STOP THE PRESSES!
And Pray-tell what system WOULD work? All human organizations are susceptible to corruption, and is in fact, expected. Even if we revolted and started a new government tomorrow, corruption would reform along with the new order established. It's human nature, and it cannot be prevented; only treated.
If you think that wouldn't work I'll direct you to open source projects, which often work brilliantly.![]()
(Got to use this twice in a day!)
Seriously, comparing an anarchistic state covering an entire country to an open source project is as ridiculous as comparing apples to chickens. Its both silly, and kind of funny.
xeed said:Also corporations are driven 100% by profit, and money is evil; therefore corporations are evil.
Direct Democracy is nothing but mob rule, which is bad.xeed said:No, not a system of "government", a system that operates WITHOUT a government that operates with direct democracy and regional cooperation. Law enforcement, military and intelligence agencies would be the only exceptions. Literally every other government agency is a pile of unneeded garbage.
More people=more variables and complications.xeed said:Why do you think it would be any different? It would operate under direct democracy on a regional scale (eg, the "blueprint" of society being completely open to individual contribution)
Yeh, who needs the FDA! Or the DoA! The feds shouldn't be regulating what goes into my body!xeed said:No, not a system of "government", a system that operates WITHOUT a government that operates with direct democracy and regional cooperation. Law enforcement, military and intelligence agencies would be the only exceptions. Literally every other government agency is a pile of unneeded garbage.CM156 said:Wait, are you saying that open source projects are something to base a system of government and economics around? Really?xeed said:Which is why the only system that would work with the least amount of corruption and abuse is a lack of a system.Atmos Duality said:Hmm. It is dubious, but at the same time hacker groups get into one-upsmanship contests quite frequently. Attacking a publicly "successful" group like Lulzsec and exposing them as script kiddies is just business as usual (only, more public).ultrachicken said:I highly doubt this is legitimate.
A pragmatic black ops security agency hides its activity from the public?xeed said:I think you misunderstand what I mean when I say the CIA is against us. They aren't directly attacking Americans (unless they have legitimate reason to think they're a terrorist threat), but the operations they conduct I can say with 100% certainty include misinformation and false flags to keep Americans in check and to keep those in power above popular hatred.
I don't care if people lose jobs. That's good. The more the system collapses the more people will realize the system is absolute garbage.
STOP THE PRESSES!
And Pray-tell what system WOULD work? All human organizations are susceptible to corruption, and is in fact, expected. Even if we revolted and started a new government tomorrow, corruption would reform along with the new order established. It's human nature, and it cannot be prevented; only treated.
If you think that wouldn't work I'll direct you to open source projects, which often work brilliantly.
OT: Again, eff these hackers. Take down LulzSec
before?What's wrong with you fucking idiots? Are you so butthurt by a few anons ddosing the escapist that you honestly think Lulzsec's targets don't have every bit of what they get coming to them?
Oh god, those poor companies losing millions (while still netting billions in profit)! That poor CIA, which keeps secrets for a REASON! The government is our best friend guys, the CIA would never plot against us!
You all need to have a serious reality check
The FDA and DoA are law enforcement agencies...Yeh, who needs the FDA! Or the DoA! The feds shouldn't be regulating what goes into my body!