LulzSec hacked by Team Posion

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xeed

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Rem45 said:
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What's wrong with you fucking idiots? Are you so butthurt by a few anons ddosing the escapist that you honestly think Lulzsec's targets don't have every bit of what they get coming to them?

Oh god, those poor companies losing millions (while still netting billions in profit)! That poor CIA, which keeps secrets for a REASON! The government is our best friend guys, the CIA would never plot against us!

You all need to have a serious reality check.
Serious reality check coming from the guy that thinks the CIA is against us? One to many movies mate.
Big companies hire people, those people live off of what those companies pay them. If a company has to make lay offs because they lose money from one of their money makers being destroyed then how is that good?

You get your head out of your ass. Big companies aren't evil organisations and the CIA isn't tapping your phone line.
I think you misunderstand what I mean when I say the CIA is against us. They aren't directly attacking Americans (unless they have legitimate reason to think they're a terrorist threat), but the operations they conduct I can say with 100% certainty include misinformation and false flags to keep Americans in check and to keep those in power above popular hatred.

I don't care if people lose jobs. That's good. The more the system collapses the more people will realize the system is absolute garbage.

Also corporations are driven 100% by profit, and money is evil; therefore corporations are evil.
 

Nico III

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I do want LulzSec to fall in catastrophic fashion...

...but these "Team Poison" guys just sound like insufferable asshats. Talking about "the scene" and typing like 1337ards.

I'd rather have LulzSec hang around until someone less annoying takes them down.
 

Atmos Duality

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ultrachicken said:
I highly doubt this is legitimate.
Hmm. It is dubious, but at the same time hacker groups get into one-upsmanship contests quite frequently. Attacking a publicly "successful" group like Lulzsec and exposing them as script kiddies is just business as usual (only, more public).

xeed said:
I think you misunderstand what I mean when I say the CIA is against us. They aren't directly attacking Americans (unless they have legitimate reason to think they're a terrorist threat), but the operations they conduct I can say with 100% certainty include misinformation and false flags to keep Americans in check and to keep those in power above popular hatred.

I don't care if people lose jobs. That's good. The more the system collapses the more people will realize the system is absolute garbage.
A pragmatic black ops security agency hides its activity from the public?
STOP THE PRESSES!

And Pray-tell what system WOULD work? All human organizations are susceptible to corruption, and is in fact, expected. Even if we revolted and started a new government tomorrow, corruption would reform along with the new order established. It's human nature, and it cannot be prevented; only treated.
 

xeed

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Atmos Duality said:
ultrachicken said:
I highly doubt this is legitimate.
Hmm. It is dubious, but at the same time hacker groups get into one-upsmanship contests quite frequently. Attacking a publicly "successful" group like Lulzsec and exposing them as script kiddies is just business as usual (only, more public).

xeed said:
I think you misunderstand what I mean when I say the CIA is against us. They aren't directly attacking Americans (unless they have legitimate reason to think they're a terrorist threat), but the operations they conduct I can say with 100% certainty include misinformation and false flags to keep Americans in check and to keep those in power above popular hatred.

I don't care if people lose jobs. That's good. The more the system collapses the more people will realize the system is absolute garbage.
A pragmatic black ops security agency hides its activity from the public?
STOP THE PRESSES!

And Pray-tell what system WOULD work? All human organizations are susceptible to corruption, and is in fact, expected. Even if we revolted and started a new government tomorrow, corruption would reform along with the new order established. It's human nature, and it cannot be prevented; only treated.
Which is why the only system that would work with the least amount of corruption and abuse is a lack of a system.

If you think that wouldn't work I'll direct you to open source projects, which often work brilliantly.

And there's no reason the CIA can't have some oversight by a neutral third party.
 

TheYellowCellPhone

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I just checked their Twitter, and Lulzsec hasn't posted anything related to Team Poison, they're only speaking of a hacking heist they're going to do on Friday.

Don't have high hopes for Poison, a two man hacking group doesn't sound promising.
 

CM156_v1legacy

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xeed said:
Atmos Duality said:
ultrachicken said:
I highly doubt this is legitimate.
Hmm. It is dubious, but at the same time hacker groups get into one-upsmanship contests quite frequently. Attacking a publicly "successful" group like Lulzsec and exposing them as script kiddies is just business as usual (only, more public).

xeed said:
I think you misunderstand what I mean when I say the CIA is against us. They aren't directly attacking Americans (unless they have legitimate reason to think they're a terrorist threat), but the operations they conduct I can say with 100% certainty include misinformation and false flags to keep Americans in check and to keep those in power above popular hatred.

I don't care if people lose jobs. That's good. The more the system collapses the more people will realize the system is absolute garbage.
A pragmatic black ops security agency hides its activity from the public?
STOP THE PRESSES!

And Pray-tell what system WOULD work? All human organizations are susceptible to corruption, and is in fact, expected. Even if we revolted and started a new government tomorrow, corruption would reform along with the new order established. It's human nature, and it cannot be prevented; only treated.
Which is why the only system that would work with the least amount of corruption and abuse is a lack of a system.

If you think that wouldn't work I'll direct you to open source projects, which often work brilliantly.
Wait, are you saying that open source projects are something to base a system of government and economics around? Really?

OT: Again, eff these hackers. Take down LulzSec
 

Shock and Awe

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xeed said:
Atmos Duality said:
ultrachicken said:
I highly doubt this is legitimate.
Hmm. It is dubious, but at the same time hacker groups get into one-upsmanship contests quite frequently. Attacking a publicly "successful" group like Lulzsec and exposing them as script kiddies is just business as usual (only, more public).

xeed said:
I think you misunderstand what I mean when I say the CIA is against us. They aren't directly attacking Americans (unless they have legitimate reason to think they're a terrorist threat), but the operations they conduct I can say with 100% certainty include misinformation and false flags to keep Americans in check and to keep those in power above popular hatred.

I don't care if people lose jobs. That's good. The more the system collapses the more people will realize the system is absolute garbage.
A pragmatic black ops security agency hides its activity from the public?
STOP THE PRESSES!

And Pray-tell what system WOULD work? All human organizations are susceptible to corruption, and is in fact, expected. Even if we revolted and started a new government tomorrow, corruption would reform along with the new order established. It's human nature, and it cannot be prevented; only treated.
Which is why the only system that would work with the least amount of corruption and abuse is a lack of a system.

If you think that wouldn't work I'll direct you to open source projects, which often work brilliantly.

(Got to use this twice in a day!)

Seriously, comparing an anarchistic state covering an entire country to an open source project is as ridiculous as comparing apples to chickens. Its both silly, and kind of funny.
 

xeed

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CM156 said:
xeed said:
Atmos Duality said:
ultrachicken said:
I highly doubt this is legitimate.
Hmm. It is dubious, but at the same time hacker groups get into one-upsmanship contests quite frequently. Attacking a publicly "successful" group like Lulzsec and exposing them as script kiddies is just business as usual (only, more public).

xeed said:
I think you misunderstand what I mean when I say the CIA is against us. They aren't directly attacking Americans (unless they have legitimate reason to think they're a terrorist threat), but the operations they conduct I can say with 100% certainty include misinformation and false flags to keep Americans in check and to keep those in power above popular hatred.

I don't care if people lose jobs. That's good. The more the system collapses the more people will realize the system is absolute garbage.
A pragmatic black ops security agency hides its activity from the public?
STOP THE PRESSES!

And Pray-tell what system WOULD work? All human organizations are susceptible to corruption, and is in fact, expected. Even if we revolted and started a new government tomorrow, corruption would reform along with the new order established. It's human nature, and it cannot be prevented; only treated.
Which is why the only system that would work with the least amount of corruption and abuse is a lack of a system.

If you think that wouldn't work I'll direct you to open source projects, which often work brilliantly.
Wait, are you saying that open source projects are something to base a system of government and economics around? Really?

OT: Again, eff these hackers. Take down LulzSec
No, not a system of "government", a system that operates WITHOUT a government that operates with direct democracy and regional cooperation. Law enforcement, military and intelligence agencies would be the only exceptions. Literally every other government agency is a pile of unneeded garbage.
 

Dango

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So they hacked them, but only because they thought they LulzSec didn't "Represent the hacking scene"...

I don't like either of these groups at all.
 

xeed

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Shock and Awe said:
xeed said:
Atmos Duality said:
ultrachicken said:
I highly doubt this is legitimate.
Hmm. It is dubious, but at the same time hacker groups get into one-upsmanship contests quite frequently. Attacking a publicly "successful" group like Lulzsec and exposing them as script kiddies is just business as usual (only, more public).

xeed said:
I think you misunderstand what I mean when I say the CIA is against us. They aren't directly attacking Americans (unless they have legitimate reason to think they're a terrorist threat), but the operations they conduct I can say with 100% certainty include misinformation and false flags to keep Americans in check and to keep those in power above popular hatred.

I don't care if people lose jobs. That's good. The more the system collapses the more people will realize the system is absolute garbage.
A pragmatic black ops security agency hides its activity from the public?
STOP THE PRESSES!

And Pray-tell what system WOULD work? All human organizations are susceptible to corruption, and is in fact, expected. Even if we revolted and started a new government tomorrow, corruption would reform along with the new order established. It's human nature, and it cannot be prevented; only treated.
Which is why the only system that would work with the least amount of corruption and abuse is a lack of a system.

If you think that wouldn't work I'll direct you to open source projects, which often work brilliantly.

(Got to use this twice in a day!)

Seriously, comparing an anarchistic state covering an entire country to an open source project is as ridiculous as comparing apples to chickens. Its both silly, and kind of funny.
Why do you think it would be any different? It would operate under direct democracy on a regional scale (eg, the "blueprint" of society being completely open to individual contribution)
 

KeyMaster45

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And thus this scene played out in my head.


Let the games begin, lets see how ugly this gets.

xeed said:
Also corporations are driven 100% by profit, and money is evil; therefore corporations are evil.

Don't feed it guys, it will only linger longer, like a really bad fart in a car where the windows are broken.
 

Shock and Awe

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xeed said:
No, not a system of "government", a system that operates WITHOUT a government that operates with direct democracy and regional cooperation. Law enforcement, military and intelligence agencies would be the only exceptions. Literally every other government agency is a pile of unneeded garbage.
Direct Democracy is nothing but mob rule, which is bad.

xeed said:
Why do you think it would be any different? It would operate under direct democracy on a regional scale (eg, the "blueprint" of society being completely open to individual contribution)
More people=more variables and complications.
 

MadCapMunchkin

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A hack within a hack?

Hackception...

No, but this is good. Nice to see LulzSec taken down a peg...
 

CM156_v1legacy

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xeed said:
CM156 said:
xeed said:
Atmos Duality said:
ultrachicken said:
I highly doubt this is legitimate.
Hmm. It is dubious, but at the same time hacker groups get into one-upsmanship contests quite frequently. Attacking a publicly "successful" group like Lulzsec and exposing them as script kiddies is just business as usual (only, more public).

xeed said:
I think you misunderstand what I mean when I say the CIA is against us. They aren't directly attacking Americans (unless they have legitimate reason to think they're a terrorist threat), but the operations they conduct I can say with 100% certainty include misinformation and false flags to keep Americans in check and to keep those in power above popular hatred.

I don't care if people lose jobs. That's good. The more the system collapses the more people will realize the system is absolute garbage.
A pragmatic black ops security agency hides its activity from the public?
STOP THE PRESSES!

And Pray-tell what system WOULD work? All human organizations are susceptible to corruption, and is in fact, expected. Even if we revolted and started a new government tomorrow, corruption would reform along with the new order established. It's human nature, and it cannot be prevented; only treated.
Which is why the only system that would work with the least amount of corruption and abuse is a lack of a system.

If you think that wouldn't work I'll direct you to open source projects, which often work brilliantly.
Wait, are you saying that open source projects are something to base a system of government and economics around? Really?

OT: Again, eff these hackers. Take down LulzSec
No, not a system of "government", a system that operates WITHOUT a government that operates with direct democracy and regional cooperation. Law enforcement, military and intelligence agencies would be the only exceptions. Literally every other government agency is a pile of unneeded garbage.
Yeh, who needs the FDA! Or the DoA! The feds shouldn't be regulating what goes into my body!

Also, you say that military and intelligence agencies would be exempt. Didn't you say
What's wrong with you fucking idiots? Are you so butthurt by a few anons ddosing the escapist that you honestly think Lulzsec's targets don't have every bit of what they get coming to them?

Oh god, those poor companies losing millions (while still netting billions in profit)! That poor CIA, which keeps secrets for a REASON! The government is our best friend guys, the CIA would never plot against us!

You all need to have a serious reality check
before?

I'm no fan of government, but we need it to exist. Unless you are an anarchist.
 

xeed

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Mob rule is only bad if it can wield its power on a large, military scale. There would be experimentation, and the societal functions that work best would be adopted by most.