LulzSec hacked by Team Posion

[xeed]

I'm going to divide your statement into two parts in order to show that the first is not the same as the second:

"profit, or a system that holds profit as the most important thing to society, is evil"

1. The various socialist experiments of the late 19th and 20th centuries have shown conclusively that society cannot function effectively without both individual and collective economic incentive, which is typically called profit.

Effectively by what definition? Economically? How exactly does how much money a society makes define how well it functions? Europe is in general far more socialist than America. Guess which has better living standards?

2. From the mere fact that profit exists, it does not follow that profit must become the overarching goal of society.

And yet that is the effect profit and moneymaking has. It only lends itself to the desire for more profit and more money.

Furthermore, I maintain that the existence of profitable enterprise is the primary reason why we are not All starving and dying of thirst. A conclusive treatise as to why is beyond the scope of this forum, but by way of a concise proof I offer two facts:

That is absolute bull. farmers have produced enough to feed people without making profits in many examples. Cuba for one. Cuba has poor agriculture and western countries absolutely would not import food to them being communist, but they have pulled through and are now adequately feeding their people.

Firstly, that the countries with the highest standards of living are the most economically successful, i.e. the ones with the most profitable enterprises.

ROFL, even Cuba has better healthcare for their people than America! Not as much food though but they are trying their best to grow it; they do not want to sell out to capitalism. Wake up!

Secondly, that efforts to improve the long-term quality of life in underdeveloped nations center around means and methods of making the enterprises of those countries more successful in the global economy.

How do you make their enterprises and production more successful?

By providing food, shelter, water, and good education.

Guess which system fails to use RELIEF FUNDING to do so....?

 

[gyroscopeboy]

I'm going to divide your statement into two parts in order to show that the first is not the same as the second:

"profit, or a system that holds profit as the most important thing to society, is evil"

1. The various socialist experiments of the late 19th and 20th centuries have shown conclusively that society cannot function effectively without both individual and collective economic incentive, which is typically called profit.

Effectively by what definition? Economically? How exactly does how much money a society makes define how well it functions? Europe is in general far more socialist than America. Guess which has better living standards?

2. From the mere fact that profit exists, it does not follow that profit must become the overarching goal of society.

And yet that is the effect profit and moneymaking has. It only lends itself to the desire for more profit and more money.

Furthermore, I maintain that the existence of profitable enterprise is the primary reason why we are not All starving and dying of thirst. A conclusive treatise as to why is beyond the scope of this forum, but by way of a concise proof I offer two facts:

That is absolute bull. farmers have produced enough to feed people without making profits in many historic examples

Firstly, that the countries with the highest standards of living are the most economically successful, i.e. the ones with the most profitable enterprises.

ROFL, even Cuba has better healthcare for their people than America! Not as much food though but they are trying their best to grow it; they do not want to sell out to capitalism. Wake up!

Secondly, that efforts to improve the long-term quality of life in underdeveloped nations center around means and methods of making the enterprises of those countries more successful in the global economy.

How do you make their enterprises and production more successful?

By providing food, shelter, water, and good education.

Guess which system fails to use RELIEF FUNDING to do so....?

Fuckin PM this shit dude..its way off topic

 

[Saltyk]

I'm going to divide your statement into two parts in order to show that the first is not the same as the second:

"profit, or a system that holds profit as the most important thing to society, is evil"

1. The various socialist experiments of the late 19th and 20th centuries have shown conclusively that society cannot function effectively without both individual and collective economic incentive, which is typically called profit.

Effectively by what definition? Economically? How exactly does how much money a society makes define how well it functions? Europe is in general far more socialist than America. Guess which has better living standards?

2. From the mere fact that profit exists, it does not follow that profit must become the overarching goal of society.

And yet that is the effect profit and moneymaking has. It only lends itself to the desire for more profit and more money.

Furthermore, I maintain that the existence of profitable enterprise is the primary reason why we are not All starving and dying of thirst. A conclusive treatise as to why is beyond the scope of this forum, but by way of a concise proof I offer two facts:

That is absolute bull. farmers have produced enough to feed people without making profits in many historic examples

Firstly, that the countries with the highest standards of living are the most economically successful, i.e. the ones with the most profitable enterprises.

ROFL, even Cuba has better healthcare for their people than America! Not as much food though but they are trying their best to grow it; they do not want to sell out to capitalism. Wake up!

Secondly, that efforts to improve the long-term quality of life in underdeveloped nations center around means and methods of making the enterprises of those countries more successful in the global economy.

How do you make their enterprises and production more successful?

By providing food, shelter, water, and good education.

Guess which system fails to use RELIEF FUNDING to do so....?

Fuckin PM this shit dude..its way off topic

Then, I can't read it. I find him funny.
Also, how can he troll if he's not in the thread? Think this through, man!

 

[sb666]

Awsome a hacking group i like keep up the good work and take out lulzsec

 

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

I'm less concerned about lulzsec getting hacked as I am them getting thrown in jail. This is just hackers bickering over who is the most 1337. Still, it is kind of nice to hear that they may be getting a taste of their own medicine.

 

[gyroscopeboy]

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Then, I can't read it. I find him funny.
Also, how can he troll if he's not in the thread? Think this through, man!

Well...the least he can do is snip the quotes so i'm not scrolling for 3 years to find the next post haha

 

[Frankster]

I like those team poison guys, from the sounds of it they are hardly angels but they are my kinda criminals, i.e: the ones who ain't flashy about it and keep their activities as secret as possible.

Their motives are hardly noble ones, but damn more likeable then "because they can".

Dunno if it's for real but if so, wish them every success in their endeavour ^^

 

[Frankster]

Double post fail

 

[Jewrean]

Breaking news! TriCK and iNSaNe have released photos of themselves!

Go Team Venture! I mean Poison!

 

[SovietX]

I dont know why this wasn't done before. Fight the hackers with other hackers. Hopefully Team Poison will only attack Lulzsec and not change their target to something innocent.

 

[WouldYouKindly]

CIA (who keep information a secret for a reason) should get lost.

http://thedailyattack.com/2011/06/22/team-poison-pwnz-lulzsec/

I'm pretty ok with people messing with the CIA. There's plenty of shit done with my money, in my name, that I would rather not have done. Also, the CIA managed to create half the reason a lot of countries hate the U.S. and I'd rather that not happen again.

this.

I'm from Chile. The CIA backed and financed a coup d'etat to our democratically elected goverment in '73, and a 20 years long dictatorship was established, killing thoundsands of civilias and tourturing thousands more. With repercusions to our culture and institutions still being felt today.

But nevermind that, your goverment must know what it's doing, let's not ask questions. They wouldn't do anything bad would they?

Pinochet. I can hardly apologize for this, it wasn't my time, but at least, if I can get the information, I can protest to keep it from happening again. Without organizations like Wikileaks and other decent hackers, we'd have no idea what they do.

 

[DeltaWolfson]

Team Poison? What's next Team Rocket makes a hacking battle against LulzSec?

 

[MrStab]

If this is legitimate which I have doubts on until I see some hard evidence it worries me because the shit could hit the fan here and things could escalate massively think about it LulzSec showed from the groups that they hacked that there wasn't a large amount of competition for them and now with Team Poison I think LulzSec would be keen to kick it up a notch and even if Team Poison do get identities of members do you think they'll really go quietly or will fuck up as much shit as they can before they get caught? I'm betting on the latter.

 

[lovest harding]

So. For the very first time the mention of Lulzsec has made me actually 'lulz'.
True or not, it's the idea of hackers turning on hackers that makes me laugh (it could have honestly been anyone or any group and I still would laugh). xD

 

[scully745]

To start off with I was mainly against LulzSec, but after going through some of their posts it does make sense. It is evident that most businesses didn't take security seriously, and although there is no real way to prevent against DDoS attacks, there ARE ways to block out direct hacking attempts to steal information. Would you honestly rather, for example, someone from Al-Qaeda being able to sit inside the CIA for months at a time and get data about who or where they're planning on striking?

It may not be the most diplomatic way of notifying people of breaks in their security but after smaller sites being hacked it looks to me like the sites with more responsibility either don't have enough respect for what hackers can do or don't take the matter of security easily enough. Is it really that bad that they took down this site for a short time, or that they got a bunch of passwords AND THEN TOLD US EXACTLY WHOSE PASSWORDS THEY HAD?

 

[Sharpiez]

Having lost some accounts to Lulzsec.

E-Boondock Saints anyone?

 

[ProtonGuy]

Bout damn time, I can't wait to get my hands on some addresses. It's been my life's dream to find one of these pecker-less man children and beat him senseless with a baseball bat. Starting with the legs and working up of course.

 

[Burnseasons]

People are not as assholish as you think.

Most really actually are. There are plenty that aren't, but they are far outnumbered

 

[laserwulf]

Make cyberlove, not cyberwar!

 

[ninetails593]

And thus were the infamous Hacker Wars