That's probably because I stalk LulzSec like some kind of creeper, and The Escapist is a high traffic site. Also, it happened...uh...about ten minutes ago. The link is pretty much all the proof I have, though.Sinclose said:I googled the hack to get any info about this. It redirected me to your thread on the very 1st link :/Kopikatsu said:What, no outrage at Nintendo being hacked?
I wonder what kind of security they were running...anyone know?
And that link you gave gives quite a lot of info. Wonder when Lulzsec will move on to other targets. Would be most fun if they actually get caught though...
They're still working on the FBI, I guess. It hasn't been hacked just yet.Liudeius said:What... I thought this was just some Xbox fanboy with minor hacking experience out for Sony, but they have hacked the FBI successfully? We really need to get some cyber security in the country.
Chappy said:I'm afraid you will have to deal with my lack of Computer Savvy in this post but Lulzsec are asking for donations? So are these donations not able to be traced or the purchases where the money was used? (If delivered where the stock was delivered?)
They're taking Bit Coin donations only, specifically because Bit Coins can't be traced. (To the best of my knowledge.)Liudeius said:I asked the same question, perhaps bitcoins are not as traceable as PayPal?Chappy said:I'm afraid you will have to deal with my lack of Computer Savvy in this post but Lulzsec are asking for donations? So are these donations not able to be traced or the purchases where the money was used? (If delivered where the stock was delivered?)
They also think themselves good enough to not be traced by the FBI when they attack, so they clearly are either brain-dead-stupid or quite experienced.
I asked the same question, perhaps bitcoins are not as traceable as PayPal?Chappy said:I'm afraid you will have to deal with my lack of Computer Savvy in this post but Lulzsec are asking for donations? So are these donations not able to be traced or the purchases where the money was used? (If delivered where the stock was delivered?)
I would assume the company keeps some kind or form of records which the FBI could get their hands on.Kopikatsu said:They're taking Bit Coin donations only, specifically because Bit Coins can't be traced. (To the best of my knowledge.)Chappy said:I'm afraid you will have to deal with my lack of Computer Savvy in this post but Lulzsec are asking for donations? So are these donations not able to be traced or the purchases where the money was used? (If delivered where the stock was delivered?)
Nah..Bit Coin is a P2P thing with it's own files. Think of it as an ultra-secure torrent, because that's pretty much what it is.Chappy said:I would assume the company keeps some kind or form of records which the FBI could get their hands on.Kopikatsu said:They're taking Bit Coin donations only, specifically because Bit Coins can't be traced. (To the best of my knowledge.)Chappy said:I'm afraid you will have to deal with my lack of Computer Savvy in this post but Lulzsec are asking for donations? So are these donations not able to be traced or the purchases where the money was used? (If delivered where the stock was delivered?)
Even if they can't use Bit Coin I have a feeling that being to public could lead to their downfall.
But you can see IP's in torrents, I'm sure there must be some way to offer a donation, then track the connection to send it to them (or send them a virus instead). I guess LulzSec probably has ways to block such tracking too though.Kopikatsu said:Nah..Bit Coin is a P2P thing with it's own files. Think of it as an ultra-secure torrent, because that's exactly what it is.
That's what I mean by 'ultra-secure'. It uses it's own files, so planting a virus or something to trace the transfer with wouldn't be possible. I would imagine that LulzSec is using a public IP address (Say, from a local starbucks or some such thing) so that the transfer will go through (Unless it can be done via proxy, but I don't think it can), so they couldn't be found that way, either.Liudeius said:But you can see IP's in torrents, I'm sure there must be some way to offer a donation, then track the connection to send it to them (or send them a virus instead). I guess LulzSec probably has ways to block such tracking too though.Kopikatsu said:Nah..Bit Coin is a P2P thing with it's own files. Think of it as an ultra-secure torrent, because that's exactly what it is.
LulzSec is a splinter group of Anonymous, but they haven't revealed much more than that...but they're very clear about no longer having any affiliation to Anonymous at this point.Gralian said:The real question is whether LulzSec are the splinter cell from Anonymous led by Ryan. I wouldn't be surprised if they were and i wouldn't be surprised if LulzSec were the ones who attacked AnonOps during the power struggle. If that turns out to be the case, it might be cause for concern. Anonymous has at least some level of restraint, but separatists acting freely and with absolutely no moral restraint or humility are a lot more dangerous than an idealistic organisation about freedom of censorship. They will have no compunction about their targets or their actions and will not care how it affects whom.
Eh, they keep posting the files obtained from their hacking exploits. What do they have to do for you to consider them a credible threat? For this attack on the FBI to succeed?immovablemover said:eh...Lulzsec are too cocky to be completely honest; Bravado and exaggeration don't vanish from the human condition the moment you sit someone in front of a computer and these guys are rife with arrogance. I doubt they'll do anything, if they do it will be unsubstantial and they will be caught.
Whether they're behind 7 proxies or 7 Boxxies they do not strike me as Technical geniuses or criminal masterminds.
Yeah, and the fact they suddenly rose to prominence after Anonymous' internal power struggle (See the IRC chat data about Ryan stealing admin privileges before AnonOps.com was attacked) would probably support this theory all the more. Interesting that someone tried to inject LulzSec, i'm wondering if that was an agent of Anonymous or just someone looking for payback. The fact they retaliated with a DDoS attack proves their history - it's Anon's favoured method of attack. I wonder if we'll see Anonymous tackle LulzSec and enter some kind of civil-cyber-warfare. I doubt it though; the enemy of my enemy is my friend, after all. If people are focused on LulzSec it'll keep the eye off Anonymous and vice versa.Kopikatsu said:LulzSec is a splinter group of Anonymous, but they haven't revealed much more than that...but they're very clear about no longer having any affiliation to Anonymous at this point.
Uuuuh...I think you need to learn about a concept called 'economy'. You might not like corporations, but you need them if you wish to continue to live in the same capacity you currently enjoy.Wolfy2449 said:I hope he doesnt get caught
1)He has brains no matter how much ppl try to say the opposite to makes their ... selves feel better
2)He makes stupid ppl rage and hate him therefore he wins since the world is so stupid. They deserve to get annoyed if they fall for this
3)He has lulz in his name xD
4)He has the power to fuck up with ppl who deserve it for many reasons. And 99% of corporations deserve it along with everyone that gets mad