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[Jamanticus]

Err, yeah. Can we please not even entertain the thought of discussing Macs in the area of games? It's too painful for even me to watch unfold.

Oh come on.

Out of the realm of legitimate debate and into personal preference?

You mean the other way round, right? It's not a question as to whether MACs are anywhere near PCs in terms of game compatibility and stability. MACs lose to PCs, hands down.

I don't have any facts or figures at the moment, but I'm sure Eggo will.

EDIT: What Eggo said.

 

[Baby Tea]

There is no legitimate debate about Mac gaming.


Just like all the official support for the latest Nvidia and ATI cards (hell, even the ones that came out half a year ago), it doesn't exist.

I'm not saying it's on par with PC gaming. Not at all.
What I am saying (And what I exactly said) is that, ever so slowly, Macs are getting more gamer friendly. It may be darn slow, but it's true.

I still fail to see how a commonly pretentious user base, stupid ads, and lack of game support make Macs 'shitty' and 'stupid'. Why all the hate? Why can't we just get along?

 

[TylerC]

I hate, however, how the new windows ads are a complete ripoff of the mac ads.

They're supposed to be...

 

[Baby Tea]

When you don't have full support for mid-range to high-end graphics cards which are well over 6 months old, your computer gaming platform is dead.

Macs aren't shitty or stupid; they're the same exact thing as PCs. They're equals.

Macs aren't calling themselves a gaming platform, though. That's not the niche they are trying to fill. They are adding more support (slowly) to older games, sure. But they aren't trying to be a gaming platform.

But besides that, I like the fact that someone can finally say they are equals. Throw this elitist BS behind us. Both sides need to just chill out...and switch to Linux.
HA! Sorry, couldn't resist!

 

[geizr]

Err, yeah. Can we please not even entertain the thought of discussing Macs in the area of games? It's too painful for even me to watch unfold.

Oh come on.

Out of the realm of legitimate debate and into personal preference?

There is no legitimate debate about Mac gaming.


Just like all the official support for the latest Nvidia and ATI cards (hell, even the ones that came out half a year ago), it doesn't exist.

I use my mac for gaming simply because I have not had enough interest in dealing with a PC again, yet. Even so, I will agree that no mac user should be under any delusions about the fitness of a mac vs a PC for gaming; PCs currently are better for gaming, period. That said, it turns out that the mac hardware is capable of providing an adequate gaming experience for some, while the more hardcore, top-performance minded gamers will find the experience woefully lacking(anything less than 60+ fps with all settings maxed, including anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering, is unacceptable). Given that one can buy a single machine and be able to run Mac OS X, Linux, and obtain a reasonable gaming experience under Windows(via bootcamp; virtualization sucks for gaming), the mac is not entirely an unreasonable choice for some individuals.

While the mac is definitely lacking in support for the latest graphics cards, this is a situation that is not guaranteed to be permanent. Though that doesn't really change the current status, I say it because, in my opinion, the real last barrier is the support for graphics cards.

 

[dekkarax]

When will people learn that it doesn't matter what OS they have; it will always find a way to crash spectacularly simply because they can.

 

[geizr]

The thing is...The last card to be supported by Apple was the 8800GT and that was a mid-range card over a year ago.

A year is an eon when it comes to gaming, especially when we're talking about mid-range cards and your computer costs as much as a standard Mac Pro does (~$2800). A $2800 computer should last you three to four years in terms of being able to play games well.

Considering a Mac Pro doesn't do anything better (outside of a very small handful of programs that actually can utilize dual quad cores) than a Windows machine which costs half as much, it's a very bad performance/value proposition unless you have a really strong preference for an Apple OS X computer.

You'll get no debate from me about the need and desire for Apple to increase graphics card support on the mac. However, on the cost issue, there is something to think about. Mac Pros are not really desktop class machines; they are workstation class machines. This can be seen in the fact they use Xeon processors instead of Core 2 Duo or the newer Core i7. Xeon processors are hideously expensive, regardless if you use them in a mac or a PC. In the comparison of a workstation vs a desktop, a workstation is usually much more expensive, regardless if we are talking mac or otherwise.

 

[Enigmers]

I think they're kind of funny but I really don't think it is worth fighting over. Macs are better! No PCs are better! shut up both of you! You people ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

Sorry for having an opinion and expressing it to people who disagree with me, then, although I'm pretty sure that's what a forum is for in the first place: to, you know, TALK ABOUT THINGS.

In this case there are two groups of people talking with each group disagreeing with the other. Just because we disagree and are willing to talk about it should not make us ashamed of ourselves; if everybody liked the same things then we all might as well be robots.

 

[pantsoffdanceoff]

I agree, honestly I really like the right click button.
MAC: Oh but you can just press alt+f6+mysterious button you cant see on the screen+ triple click
SANE PPL: Why cant you just put it on the mouse?
MAC: BECUASE WE'RE COLORFUL! BUY THIRD PARTY STUFF TO MAKE US FUNCTIONAL um.. VISTA
Vista isn't really all that bad except for some java compiling programs I've had.

 

[Woe Is You]

Err, the Mighty Mouse has right click support :\

I just wish it had some discrete buttons.

Does the wheel (well... ball) still shit itself over after a short while?

 

[pantsoffdanceoff]

Err, the Mighty Mouse has right click support :\

I just wish it had some discrete buttons.

Yeah but it's not standard and thus I can't count it, all the MAC computers I have to use in my digital rendering classes don't have right clicks and barfs sunshine in face, sunshine I don't want.. I live in Seattle for a reason.