Mac vs. PC and no, this is not a poll, kinda

[OutofMind634]

I'm sure people have asked this before but lets hear what a new batch of people have to say.

I'm a Mac user. Have been all my life but now I want a change so I'm going PC. Now the big reason is to play games but besides that not much else. And since I'm going to make this switch I just want to ask:

What do you prefer and why?

And a better question:

Why do many people consider that Macs suck and PCs are superior?

Have fun.

 

[Arehexes]

I don't consider Macs as crap, everything I need a computer for (gaming mostly) a Windows Machine can help. I use photoshop (barely) and adobe premiere so it could be either or on Mac or Windows machine. I do prefer gaming and most of my games (at like 90%) are Windows machine only.

Most people consider Windows machines better because of more range of freedom in terms of what you can and can't install.

Problem Windows machine users have with Mac users is that most Mac users (at least the one I met) consider Windows machine worthless with no reason. I have met people who say the moment you turn on a windows machine it becomes full of virus's. Which isn't true (also Unix based machines can have these issues as well, seeing how Mac's has some security updates also). But it's the idea that I own a Mac so I'm automatically better then you, which a lot of Windows machine hate a lot.

 

[Gregg Lonsdale]

Do macs have right-clicking yet? I remember that was one of the old jokes about macs being crap, but I havent been paying much attention to it in a while.

 

[darkfire613]

I am a Mac user, I have been for years. Mainly it's because of the OS; I love its slick design, and really, I'm not limited in any way by it. the only games I play that are only on computers are all, conveniently, on Mac as well as Windows, namely Valve's and Blizzard's catalogs, Minecraft, and most other indie games. Anything else, I have a 360 and PS3 for, so it doesn't bother me.

Do macs have right-clicking yet? I remember that was one of the old jokes about macs being crap, but I havent been paying much attention to it in a while.

Have for a while actually, we just don't have an actual button for it. The Apple mice have capacitive touch sensors which can tell which side of the mouse you're clicking on.

Actually, that's another reason I like Macs so much. My current setup lets me turn volume up and down, switch between tabs in my browser, and close and open new ones just with the Magic Mouse and BetterTouchTool. Whenever I use a different mouse/computer it just feels awkward having to use the keyboard for all these things.

 

[OutofMind634]

Do macs have right-clicking yet? I remember that was one of the old jokes about macs being crap, but I havent been paying much attention to it in a while.

In a way yes. At least on Macbooks. If you have two fingers on the trackpad and click you'll have done a right click.

 

[vehystrix]

If you look at it from a specs point of view, you can get a computer with the same hardware specs as a mac for half the price or less if you buy it from a PC manufacturer. I personally use linux, dual booting it with windows for those select few games I cannot run using Wine.

The problem most non-mac users have with macs is the attitude a mac user most often has, thinking they're better than the rest due to owning a mac, and considering apple a gift from the gods themselves.

 

[Floppertje]

Do macs have right-clicking yet? I remember that was one of the old jokes about macs being crap, but I havent been paying much attention to it in a while.

of course they do... just because you can't see a line between two buttons doesn't mean there's only one.

anyway, I'm a mac user, but I'm getting a gaming pc because... well I want to play videogames on it not that it's impossible on an Imac, but these things aren't exactly easily upgradeable.
oh, and I got a blue screen of death in bootcamp just this morning. so yeah, I think it's time this one got retired.

 

[OutofMind634]

Do macs have right-clicking yet? I remember that was one of the old jokes about macs being crap, but I havent been paying much attention to it in a while.

anyway, I'm a mac user, but I'm getting a gaming pc because... well I want to play videogames on it not that it's impossible on an Imac, but these things aren't exactly easily upgradeable.

That's a problem I had with Macs. I couldn't update my graphics card because it's built in. I'm not sure if it is soldered or not but I found it impossible to replace it.

 

[Jordi]

I think Macs look beautiful, and being based on Unix there are a couple of things that you can do that are harder on Windows (but I don't think many users use that). I think they are probably fine for most tasks (e.g. browsing and text editing).

I've personally used one for a while and didn't really like it that much. I think this is mostly due to the fact that I have years of experience on Windows and it could sometimes take me a while to figure things out on the Mac. Furthermore, the main reason my company used it was because it was based on Unix and we could do some programming-related stuff on it, but I thought it was really annoying about that because it tries to hide all the Unix stuff, so for that I prefer Linux.
But like I said, for regular usage I think it is fine, and if you're a little lazy I would just stick with what you know and dual-boot Windows for games. On the other hand, if you really want a gaming PC, you can get a Windows one cheaper if you go for the same specs.

 

[Gregg Lonsdale]

alright then. So yeah I'm a windows user. Mainly just because I'm a PC gamer, otherwise I wouldn't put that much stock between one or the other. I suppose even if I wasn't gaming I'd still pick windows though, mainly from peer pressure. Among my friends "mac user" and "loser" are mostly synonymous.

 

[viranimus]

Well my issue w/ mac is just that it is more that your paying for marketing,too little return on investment the brands cult following that acts as if a machine is obsolete in 6 days and how restrictive it is to use.

Windows I have problems with behing entirely too popular and thus more prone to every bit of malware and viri ever dreamed up, and Microsoft behaving like they know better than us what is good for us. project Mojave anyone?)

Linux would be the perfect solution except its learning curve is obnoxious and unless its extremely simple, its annoyingly complex.

It would be nice to have the simplicity of Mac, Accessibility of a PC and control/security of Linux, but thats entirely too much to ask for.

 

[Tjacu]

For this post PC = Microsoft Operative System 7.

The funny part is, everytime people talk about gaming on Linux or Mac, they always say that they use Wine or Dual-Boot, just for the games... and I always think that they are making excuses for their system not being able to do a certain thing, anyway rant off.

I use the PC, and I use it for gaming and watching shows on, I seldom write office documents or any other kind of stuff that requires me to multitask.

I'm sticking with the PC, because I don't wanna learn a new OS, and yes the MAC can right click now, but you need to hold down another button? (Not flaming, but software for stuff like that are on the PC aswell)

And as other people in this thread have already said, the price is very high on a mac for what you get, even if I have to say that the design looks sharp.

But appart from what everyone else says, go with what makes you feel more comfortable.

 

[JochemDude]

I love my Mac, why because it's Mac. No other reason, any Mac user will (probably) agree with me that a Mac... It just feels right. I still use windows for gaming, but other than that I do everything with my Overpowered 12 Core rendering beast of a Mac. (Very soon 16 Core)

 

[Griffolion]

*Sigh*

Haven't we JUST had a thread about this last week?

People will use Mac's, people will use PC's. There will be pseudo-religious zealots advocating either side that will clash in epic flame wars. The rest of us will live life caring about more important issues.

I personally prefer PC, I find Mac OS disingenuous and unintuitive. But that's just my opinion and I understand that others may disagree.

I love my Mac, why because it's Mac. No other reason, any Mac user will (probably) agree with me that a Mac... It just feels right. I still use windows for gaming, but other than that I do everything with my Overpowered 12 Core rendering beast of a Mac.

Can't tell if serious...

 

[loc978]

Macs are PCs. You can buy a Mac and multi-boot it with Linux or Windows, just as you can build a custom system and throw Snow Leopard on it. The hardware is similar either way, it's just that if you buy it from Apple, you pay twice to three times as much for limited internals, extremely well-built cases, and great warranties. If that's your thing, go for it. Personally, I prefer to build a faster system for less than half the price and run a Linux/Windows multi-boot... but then, I don't do any professional audio work. My roommate does, and he buys macs (though he multi-boots WinXP on 'em for gaming).

...before you go buying a factory-built crapbox Windows machine (seriously, quality pre-built systems are few and far between) try this, and have fun:

http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/boot_camp_install-setup.pdf

 

[Conza]

I'm sure people have asked this before but lets hear what a new batch of people have to say.

I'm a Mac user. Have been all my life but now I want a change so I'm going PC. Now the big reason is to play games but besides that not much else. And since I'm going to make this switch I just want to ask:

What do you prefer and why?

And a better question:

Why do many people consider that Macs suck and PCs are superior?

Have fun.

Heh, in a few years, the niche could be PCs and Macs the mainstream.

But that is basically the answer, PCs are mainstream, and they aren't 'just because', Apple have been around for as long, but Microsoft just out did them (stealing from them helped).

Apple give you less options in their software, intentionally, they aren't stupid people, they believe they are doing the better thing by making technology simplier for people to use.

Here's the thing about me. I'm in IT, and I like you, have used almost every version of my software (Windows), the difference between you and me swapping, is if you like to know how your technology works, like to change things with it, put it simply, as Windows people call us 'Power Users' Macs will almost never be an option.

I don't hate Macs though, they do, do a lot of stuff right (especially recently), but they could and 'should' be the dominant operating system by now, but their philosophy stands in the way.

And that's why I like Microsoft more, but I'll jump when Chrome gives me something useable in a business environment, and if Apple ever became seriously competitive (from my point of view).

Anyway, good luck to you, only advice would be, Windows 7 64-bit, Home if its a desktop not used for work, Pro if its a laptop/dektop for work, and Ultimate if you're just loaded and feel like it. Uhh, 4-6GB ram, minimum, probably a 500GB HDD minimum, quad core i7 since you're gaming (not sure how techy you are, so just throwing these in to be sure),

Oh, most important, the card, its about 1/3 of the PC when it comes to games, maybe more, ATI seem to be the kids on the block these days, but as long as you can afford the card, it has Direct X 11 and DDR5, oh and 1GB of VRAM (maybe 1.5GB minimum, not sure), you should be alright. OH~ and get a 1080p monitor.

Whole lot should set you back 1500-2000 bucks. Enjoy!

 

[Arehexes]

If you look at it from a specs point of view, you can get a computer with the same hardware specs as a mac for half the price or less if you buy it from a PC manufacturer. I personally use linux, dual booting it with windows for those select few games I cannot run using Wine.

The problem most non-mac users have with macs is the attitude a mac user most often has, thinking they're better than the rest due to owning a mac, and considering apple a gift from the gods themselves.

I can second this, I went through my dads iMac he bought last year for like 2000 dollars. My new computer I'm going to build in a few days will cost about 800 and be twice as powerufl

 

[Heathrow]

Hundreds of little things turn me off macs but it all boils down to a dislike of the "users can't handle anything; if your computer breaks bring it in to a professional" attitude, the focus on aesthetics as the core of design, and mostly the fact that Steve Jobs is an unabashedly arrogant asshole who doesn't deserve my money.

There's also the mac markup: if two systems are equally powerful and one is sold by apple that one will always be more expensive.

Oh, most important, the card, its about 1/3 of the PC when it comes to games, maybe more, ATI seem to be the kids on the block these days[...]

ATI has street cred true but the top end cards are usually pretty similar in performance and the nVidea won't have you banging your head on the keyboard when it comes to drivers. Coming down from the hyper controlled world of Apple I would honestly recommend an nVidea card just for simplicity's sake.

 

[JochemDude]

I love my Mac, why because it's Mac. No other reason, any Mac user will (probably) agree with me that a Mac... It just feels right. I still use windows for gaming, but other than that I do everything with my Overpowered 12 Core rendering beast of a Mac.

That makes about as much sense as a religious fanatic.
You can set up rocketdock to make your PC look like a Mac. Macs are more expensive and less powerful and compatible than a PC.
Unless you use terminal, there is no need for a Mac. Can you go into further detail about why it "feels right"? What does that exactly mean? The build quality? The lack of functions?

Why do we like anything? Personal preferences, what I like you might not like and what you like I might not like. To me a Mac feels right and to you a PC feels right, wether that's because of Quality or whatever doesn't even really matter.