Mac vs. PC and no, this is not a poll, kinda

[SL33TBL1ND]

This is going to be a dangerous thread, but I'll bite.

I'm a PC user for a few reasons, such as gaming, better interface (in my opinion) and more freedom with programs. I'll concede quite quickly that Macs are way better for those arty types, but that isn't me, so I'll stick to my PC.

Heh, rhymes.

 

[Sonic Doctor]

Actually, that's another reason I like Macs so much. My current setup lets me turn volume up and down, switch between tabs in my browser, and close and open new ones just with the Magic Mouse and BetterTouchTool. Whenever I use a different mouse/computer it just feels awkward having to use the keyboard for all these things.

What you said confuses me. What kind of PC have you used where you can't "turn volume up and down, switch between tabs in my browser, and close and open new ones" with a mouse?

I have never used a keyboard for any of those things. The only thing I have ever used a keyboard for is typing and extra controls when a game has more controls than a mouse can hold.

Heck, I can't even change the volume with my old standard Dell keyboard. I would have to click on the sound icon in my system tray and then use the arrow keys to move the sound up and down, but that would be a step backward, because I can do the same thing quicker with just using my mouse.

I would say that mouse movements and clicks constitute 90 to 95% of my computer control if I am not typing like I am now. If I add in the typing responses on the Escapist, it goes to 80% mouse use.

Again I say, what you say confuses me.

 

[Arehexes]

I love my Mac, why because it's Mac. No other reason, any Mac user will (probably) agree with me that a Mac... It just feels right. I still use windows for gaming, but other than that I do everything with my Overpowered 12 Core rendering beast of a Mac. (Very soon 16 Core)

Not going to lie, that's a really crappy reason to like anything. Just because it feels right, if it feels right you should have reasons for why it feels right.

 

[JochemDude]

I love my Mac, why because it's Mac. No other reason, any Mac user will (probably) agree with me that a Mac... It just feels right. I still use windows for gaming, but other than that I do everything with my Overpowered 12 Core rendering beast of a Mac.

That makes about as much sense as a religious fanatic.
You can set up rocketdock to make your PC look like a Mac. Macs are more expensive and less powerful and compatible than a PC.
Unless you use terminal, there is no need for a Mac. Can you go into further detail about why it "feels right"? What does that exactly mean? The build quality? The lack of functions?

Why do we like anything? Personal preferences, what I like you might not like and what you like I might not like. To me a Mac feels right and to you a PC feels right, wether that's because of Quality or whatever doesn't even really matter.

I asked you why that is your personal preference. Why is that hard to answer?
I never said a PC feels right. I have no need for terminal and prefer compatibility, power and value for money over fashion, therefore I prefer PC's over Macs.
Your turn to explain yourself.

We can argue all day about how PC is more bang for the buck and better in a lot of ways (which I can easily admit). Just like I love my dog, if I would be asked to turn it in for a more healthy dog with a family tree of epicness. I wouldn't do it I have grown attached to it and love it for what it is.

 

[Jadak]

Now the big reason is to play games but besides that not much else.

lol, you just casually dismissed what is most likely the single most important aspect of owning a decent computer in the first place for a great many people on this site.

 

[OutofMind634]

Anyway, good luck to you, only advice would be, Windows 7 64-bit, Home if its a desktop not used for work, Pro if its a laptop/dektop for work, and Ultimate if you're just loaded and feel like it. Uhh, 4-6GB ram, minimum, probably a 500GB HDD minimum, quad core i7 since you're gaming (not sure how techy you are, so just throwing these in to be sure),

Oh, most important, the card, its about 1/3 of the PC when it comes to games, maybe more, ATI seem to be the kids on the block these days, but as long as you can afford the card, it has Direct X 11 and DDR5, oh and 1GB of VRAM (maybe 1.5GB minimum, not sure), you should be alright. OH~ and get a 1080p monitor.

Whole lot should set you back 1500-2000 bucks. Enjoy!

To describe to you just how un-tech-savy I am, the very word Linux scares me.

 

[loc978]

Anyway, good luck to you, only advice would be, Windows 7 64-bit, Home if its a desktop not used for work, Pro if its a laptop/dektop for work, and Ultimate if you're just loaded and feel like it. Uhh, 4-6GB ram, minimum, probably a 500GB HDD minimum, quad core i7 since you're gaming (not sure how techy you are, so just throwing these in to be sure),

Oh, most important, the card, its about 1/3 of the PC when it comes to games, maybe more, ATI seem to be the kids on the block these days, but as long as you can afford the card, it has Direct X 11 and DDR5, oh and 1GB of VRAM (maybe 1.5GB minimum, not sure), you should be alright. OH~ and get a 1080p monitor.

Whole lot should set you back 1500-2000 bucks. Enjoy!

To describe to you just how un-tech-savy I am, the very word Linux scares me.

Trying to run windows, or PC games in general, is not a job for the un-tech-savvy. If you're not willing to learn how to build and run a PC, I'd advise you to stick to games that Steam releases for Mac. A windows machine is likely to butcher itself in front of your eyes... that's what they do to most people.

 

[JochemDude]

I love my Mac, why because it's Mac. No other reason, any Mac user will (probably) agree with me that a Mac... It just feels right. I still use windows for gaming, but other than that I do everything with my Overpowered 12 Core rendering beast of a Mac. (Very soon 16 Core)

Not going to lie, that's a really crappy reason to like anything. Just because it feels right, if it feels right you should have reasons for why it feels right.

I like Mac better because I have grown attached to it and learned to accept it's flaws. a PC may be 'better' technically (not even gonna deny that), but for me it isn't better. It's just my opinion, opinions tend to differ and people should accept those differences.

 

[OutofMind634]

Anyway, good luck to you, only advice would be, Windows 7 64-bit, Home if its a desktop not used for work, Pro if its a laptop/dektop for work, and Ultimate if you're just loaded and feel like it. Uhh, 4-6GB ram, minimum, probably a 500GB HDD minimum, quad core i7 since you're gaming (not sure how techy you are, so just throwing these in to be sure),

Oh, most important, the card, its about 1/3 of the PC when it comes to games, maybe more, ATI seem to be the kids on the block these days, but as long as you can afford the card, it has Direct X 11 and DDR5, oh and 1GB of VRAM (maybe 1.5GB minimum, not sure), you should be alright. OH~ and get a 1080p monitor.

Whole lot should set you back 1500-2000 bucks. Enjoy!

To describe to you just how un-tech-savy I am, the very word Linux scares me.

Trying to run windows, or PC games in general, is not a job for the un-tech-savvy. If you're not willing to learn how to build and run a PC, I'd advise you to stick to games that Steam releases for Mac. A windows machine is likely to butcher itself in front of your eyes... that's what they do to most people.

I'm not saying I wouldn't learn and trust me I will. It was just joke as seeing Mac (which I use) are by far simpler than a Linux.

 

[Kennetic]

I like PC better. I don't need video editing and the prices are outrageous. Macs aren't compatible with shit

 

[Conza]

Anyway, good luck to you, only advice would be, Windows 7 64-bit, Home if its a desktop not used for work, Pro if its a laptop/dektop for work, and Ultimate if you're just loaded and feel like it. Uhh, 4-6GB ram, minimum, probably a 500GB HDD minimum, quad core i7 since you're gaming (not sure how techy you are, so just throwing these in to be sure),

Oh, most important, the card, its about 1/3 of the PC when it comes to games, maybe more, ATI seem to be the kids on the block these days, but as long as you can afford the card, it has Direct X 11 and DDR5, oh and 1GB of VRAM (maybe 1.5GB minimum, not sure), you should be alright. OH~ and get a 1080p monitor.

Whole lot should set you back 1500-2000 bucks. Enjoy!

To describe to you just how un-tech-savy I am, the very word Linux scares me.

Alright, well... where you from? The US? Meh, I'll just guess that and provide this link.

http://computers.shop.ebay.com/PC-Desktops-/179/i.html?LH_ItemCondition=1000%7C1500&Memory%2520%2528RAM%2529=4%2520GB%2520or%2520more%7C!&Operating%2520System=Windows%25207%7CNot%2520Included%7C!&Processor%2520Speed%2520%2528per%2520Core%2529=3%252E0%2520GHz%2520or%2520more&Hard%2520Drive%2520Capacity=1000%2520GB%2520or%2520more&_dmpt=Desktop_PCs&_fln=1&_mPrRngCbx=1&_ssov=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m282&Processor%2520Type=Intel%2520Core%2520i7%7CIntel%2520Core%2520i7%2520Extreme%2520Ed%252E&_udlo=500&_udhi=2%2C000.00&Processor%2520Configuration=Quad%2520Core%7CSix%2520Core%7C!

I am not reccomending you buy any computer on eBay (although I've bought a few, all turned out fine, yet I'm an experienced eBayer) but rather, this search should provide you with computers that have the qualities required of a modern gaming machine.

Personally, if I had to pick a card for myself today, it'd be a 6950 or 6970 (should be about 300 bucks), but one of the Nvidia 500s for a similar price has pros and cons for certain games, use the internet and learn which are better for the games you like.

 

[loc978]

Anyway, good luck to you, only advice would be, Windows 7 64-bit, Home if its a desktop not used for work, Pro if its a laptop/dektop for work, and Ultimate if you're just loaded and feel like it. Uhh, 4-6GB ram, minimum, probably a 500GB HDD minimum, quad core i7 since you're gaming (not sure how techy you are, so just throwing these in to be sure),

Oh, most important, the card, its about 1/3 of the PC when it comes to games, maybe more, ATI seem to be the kids on the block these days, but as long as you can afford the card, it has Direct X 11 and DDR5, oh and 1GB of VRAM (maybe 1.5GB minimum, not sure), you should be alright. OH~ and get a 1080p monitor.

Whole lot should set you back 1500-2000 bucks. Enjoy!

To describe to you just how un-tech-savy I am, the very word Linux scares me.

Trying to run windows, or PC games in general, is not a job for the un-tech-savvy. If you're not willing to learn how to build and run a PC, I'd advise you to stick to games that Steam releases for Mac. A windows machine is likely to butcher itself in front of your eyes... that's what they do to most people.

I'm not saying I wouldn't learn and trust me I will. It was just joke as seeing Mac (which I use) are by far simpler than a Linux.

You'd be amazed, how little input it takes to install and browse the internet with ubuntu. Blank hard disk to working desktop in under five minutes, and the only input required from the user is a disk in the drive and one press of the enter key.

For gaming purposes, though, I still say you'd be better served by setting up Boot Camp on your mac and installing Windows XP on it (unless you have an incredibly weak system, like an imac or something)... there's actually less work involved for you that way, and a whole lot less money.

 

[OutofMind634]

Anyway, good luck to you, only advice would be, Windows 7 64-bit, Home if its a desktop not used for work, Pro if its a laptop/dektop for work, and Ultimate if you're just loaded and feel like it. Uhh, 4-6GB ram, minimum, probably a 500GB HDD minimum, quad core i7 since you're gaming (not sure how techy you are, so just throwing these in to be sure),

Oh, most important, the card, its about 1/3 of the PC when it comes to games, maybe more, ATI seem to be the kids on the block these days, but as long as you can afford the card, it has Direct X 11 and DDR5, oh and 1GB of VRAM (maybe 1.5GB minimum, not sure), you should be alright. OH~ and get a 1080p monitor.

Whole lot should set you back 1500-2000 bucks. Enjoy!

To describe to you just how un-tech-savy I am, the very word Linux scares me.

Alright, well... where you from? The US? Meh, I'll just guess that and provide this link.

http://computers.shop.ebay.com/PC-Desktops-/179/i.html?LH_ItemCondition=1000%7C1500&Memory%2520%2528RAM%2529=4%2520GB%2520or%2520more%7C!&Operating%2520System=Windows%25207%7CNot%2520Included%7C!&Processor%2520Speed%2520%2528per%2520Core%2529=3%252E0%2520GHz%2520or%2520more&Hard%2520Drive%2520Capacity=1000%2520GB%2520or%2520more&_dmpt=Desktop_PCs&_fln=1&_mPrRngCbx=1&_ssov=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m282&Processor%2520Type=Intel%2520Core%2520i7%7CIntel%2520Core%2520i7%2520Extreme%2520Ed%252E&_udlo=500&_udhi=2%2C000.00&Processor%2520Configuration=Quad%2520Core%7CSix%2520Core%7C!

I am not reccomending you buy any computer on eBay (although I've bought a few, all turned out fine, yet I'm an experienced eBayer) but rather, this search should provide you with computers that have the qualities required of a modern gaming machine.

Personally, if I had to pick a card for myself today, it'd be a 6950 or 6970 (should be about 300 bucks), but one of the Nvidia 500s for a similar price has pros and cons for certain games, use the internet and learn which are better for the games you like.

Yep, US. And thank you for providing that link even though you didn't have to. Thanks a ton.

And just to put this information on the table, I have a friend who suggests I build my computer from scratch, but I'll defiantly check out the link.

 

[JochemDude]

I love my Mac, why because it's Mac. No other reason, any Mac user will (probably) agree with me that a Mac... It just feels right. I still use windows for gaming, but other than that I do everything with my Overpowered 12 Core rendering beast of a Mac.

That makes about as much sense as a religious fanatic.
You can set up rocketdock to make your PC look like a Mac. Macs are more expensive and less powerful and compatible than a PC.
Unless you use terminal, there is no need for a Mac. Can you go into further detail about why it "feels right"? What does that exactly mean? The build quality? The lack of functions?

Why do we like anything? Personal preferences, what I like you might not like and what you like I might not like. To me a Mac feels right and to you a PC feels right, wether that's because of Quality or whatever doesn't even really matter.

I asked you why that is your personal preference. Why is that hard to answer?
I never said a PC feels right. I have no need for terminal and prefer compatibility, power and value for money over fashion, therefore I prefer PC's over Macs.
Your turn to explain yourself.

We can argue all day about how PC is more bang for the buck and better in a lot of ways (which I can easily admit). Just like I love my dog, if I would be asked to turn it in for a more healthy dog with a family tree of epicness. I wouldn't do it I have grown attached to it and love it for what it is.

So you are just going to refuse to state why you prefer Macs over PCs?
You tend to love a pet. If you love your Mac, that shows a disturbing attachment to an item that is actually worthy of seeing a shrink over.

I already stated why and the dog was an example you could replace that with anything you like. I will state it one more time, I like a Mac because IT FEELS RIGHT. I can admit that a PC is 'better' just not to me.

 

[loc978]

I like PC better. I don't need video editing and the prices are outrageous. Macs aren't compatible with shit

...oddly enough, they're actually compatible with Windows and Linux. Multi-booting is easy with macs... which are, after all, just PCs built by a very self-involved company (this from a lifelong builder of PCs who shuns any system not built with his own two hands).

 

[darkfire613]

Actually, that's another reason I like Macs so much. My current setup lets me turn volume up and down, switch between tabs in my browser, and close and open new ones just with the Magic Mouse and BetterTouchTool. Whenever I use a different mouse/computer it just feels awkward having to use the keyboard for all these things.

What you said confuses me. What kind of PC have you used where you can't "turn volume up and down, switch between tabs in my browser, and close and open new ones" with a mouse?

I have never used a keyboard for any of those things. The only thing I have ever used a keyboard for is typing and extra controls when a game has more controls than a mouse can hold.

Heck, I can't even change the volume with my old standard Dell keyboard. I would have to click on the sound icon in my system tray and then use the arrow keys to move the sound up and down, but that would be a step backward, because I can do the same thing quicker with just using my mouse.

I would say that mouse movements and clicks constitute 90 to 95% of my computer control if I am not typing like I am now. If I add in the typing responses on the Escapist, it goes to 80% mouse use.

Again I say, what you say confuses me.

With multitouch gestures, I meant. Not clicking on other tabs or other stuff. Two finger swipes left and right switch between tabs, three fingers up and down raises and lowers volume, etc. Mainly this is bred from laziness, as I now can do most of my internet browsing with only minimal mouse movements.