MAG

[MrGFunk]

Unless of course the PSN maintains it's current level of mic-usage and it's maybe a dozen or so people per teams with mics, giving orders and trying to keep everyone working together while the people without mics don't really listen because you can't hear anyone through the TV. Or they turn down the TV so they don't have to listen to the voices coming through the TV.

Yes, I know this isn't exactly accurate.

I have a MIC and a PS3 and I think this is pretty accurate, I hardly ever have the VOIP turned up. Don't sell yourself short - when you're right, you're right.

Hopefully they'll be loads of block functions - Can't join server because 1 of the 255 people is on your blocklist. Boo.

Still, I hope it's done well so I'll it.

 

[MrGFunk]

MAG is NOT an MMOFPS, it is merely an FPS with a HUGE player count. 256 in one match at one time.

Doesn't MMO Stand for Massively Multiplayer Online? So isn't it a MMOFPS?

 

[Kodlak]

I dont believe the 256 players in a game because it is crazy and imagine all the kids singing over the mics. *crawls into a corner and rocks gently back and forth sobbing*

 

[MrGFunk]

I dont believe the 256 players in a game because it is crazy and imagine all the kids singing over the mics. *crawls into a corner and rocks gently back and forth sobbing*

I hope they'll limit the chatter to your own team of 8 and maybe the team General, so tactics and orders wont be heard across the gameworld.
"Sneak up to the Blue guy by the swamp with the sni... ...God damn it".

Also it means you would have to listen to inane kids and idiots swearing false threats at you, unless that's your team of course.

 

[theCMNDER]

MAG is NOT an MMOFPS, it is merely an FPS with a HUGE player count. 256 in one match at one time.

Doesn't MMO Stand for Massively Multiplayer Online? So isn't it a MMOFPS?

and

MAG is NOT an MMOFPS, it is merely an FPS with a HUGE player count. 256 in one match at one time.

You better change the Wikipedia article then.

I ment it's not an MMO in the way people normally think of them, as it seemed a few people above my post were taking it in a World of Warcraft MMO way. But you are absolutely right it is technically an MMO because it is massive and multiplayer and online.

 

[theCMNDER]

While i think im being finicky with the scale inscrease=/=tactics increse thing ive got to say i disagree with you on 2 counts.

1) I might see where your coming from but i dont see how the ability of a team to lose a player or two means a game is more tactical - surely that carelessness shows a lack of importance, and therefor tactical value. In, say a 8v8, "every unit counts".

2) I dont think MAG will attract all the COD fans, or is even looking at that audience - COD has focused battles and thats what makes it so damn good, that wont really carry over to a 256 player game. If COD was single player only then i could understand but that game is played for the multiplayer and that is leaps and bounds in a different direction to MAG. One thing that is very evident in the game industry is that when scale goes up detail goes down, it has to technically, so MAG will not be able to capture this 'gritty realism' IMO. Instead MAG is aiming for the BF players, which you may aswell have said with that last line.

I will agree that maybe my idea that it wants to get CoD4 players was a bit far-fetched, it is definitely more aimed at BF2 players. But I can't see CoD4 being more tactical than what I imagine MAG will be, especially not any of the CoD4 matches i get joined to anyway. ^^
I think maybe I should have chosen my words better, MAG has a greater capacity for tactics than CoD4 does, I think that's what I was trying to get at. Also when I said about 1 man meaning less so it is more tactical, I wasn't thinking of when they die, I was thinking more about the very good players. Being an amazing FPS player matters less when there are 128 enemies, and the way you play and your tactics matter more.

EDIT: sorry for double post!

 

[WolfLordAndy]

MAG is NOT an MMOFPS, it is merely an FPS with a HUGE player count. 256 in one match at one time.

Doesn't MMO Stand for Massively Multiplayer Online? So isn't it a MMOFPS?

and

MAG is NOT an MMOFPS, it is merely an FPS with a HUGE player count. 256 in one match at one time.

You better change the Wikipedia article then.

I ment it's not an MMO in the way people normally think of them, as it seemed a few people above my post were taking it in a World of Warcraft MMO way. But you are absolutely right it is technically an MMO because it is massive and multiplayer and online.

Yes and no. While MMO stands for that, the general definition given to it is that it requires a persistant world, like Planetside had. Its more just big matches rather then a classical MMO.

Its sad that its coming out for PS3 tho, as what I've found from playing online on consuls is its all about the kills and stuff, and while certain servers on PC are like that, you can pick and choose ones from differnet places that have a more or less mature audience that you seek, thus "forcing" you to play as a team. I know my clan's BF2 server always had good tactics going thanks to the group of regular players and clans that used it.

I truely hope the game is a success however as it could breath life into the halfdead genre, and make SOE think again about bringing out Planetside 2. (Or atleast MAG for PC)

 

[SinisterDeath]

The way they explained it at E3, and that other expo, was that its 128 vs 128, split up into 16 squads of 8. With each of the 16 squads doing different things from recon, attacking points, defending, ect. Escentially the way they explained it. There are 256 people on the map, but you won't be seeing all 256 people all at the same time. Instead its more likely that you'll have 1 squad vs 1 squad. And from what I also understand the 'commander' over it all, is an AI, who assigns duty's to all 16 teams every time an objecstive is complete. Similar to the R2 skirmish multiplayer. And if you complete said objectives (or at least attempt them) you gain more 'experience/points/whatever' to go up in rank.

 

[Avida]

I will agree that maybe my idea that it wants to get CoD4 players was a bit far-fetched, it is definitely more aimed at BF2 players. But I can't see CoD4 being more tactical than what I imagine MAG will be, especially not any of the CoD4 matches i get joined to anyway. ^^
I think maybe I should have chosen my words better, MAG has a greater capacity for tactics than CoD4 does, I think that's what I was trying to get at. Also when I said about 1 man meaning less so it is more tactical, I wasn't thinking of when they die, I was thinking more about the very good players. Being an amazing FPS player matters less when there are 128 enemies, and the way you play and your tactics matter more.

EDIT: sorry for double post!

Yeah that makes much more sense.. not sure what else to say here... err...

*leaves*

 

[L33tsauce_Marty]

You also have to take into consideration map design, since the maps would have to be huge. Unless they work REALLY hard to make some nice enviroments, it will just look like BF2 outdoor wilderness maps, which just slap hills and open spaces with little cover and generic buildings.

 

[DirkGently]

Unless of course the PSN maintains it's current level of mic-usage and it's maybe a dozen or so people per teams with mics, giving orders and trying to keep everyone working together while the people without mics don't really listen because you can't hear anyone through the TV. Or they turn down the TV so they don't have to listen to the voices coming through the TV.

Yes, I know this isn't exactly accurate.

I have a MIC and a PS3 and I think this is pretty accurate, I hardly ever have the VOIP turned up. Don't sell yourself short - when you're right, you're right.

Hopefully they'll be loads of block functions - Can't join server because 1 of the 255 people is on your blocklist. Boo.

Still, I hope it's done well so I'll it.

I was just saying that because I have found games where people do have mics and do talk, but they aren't exactly common matches. I still don't get why the PS3 doesn't come with a mic.

Uh, thank you, I guess. I wish it had been for something witty I had said, but whatever.

Well I like to say hilarious/retarded things to my friends and inject my tabletop gaming with bizarre phrases. Oh there WILL be an NPC in my D&D campaign that requests the heroes "bring the rape" to something.

While it's good to know that I'll have legacy, I just wish it was a bit more sophisticated than "bring the rape".

 

[Zersy]

Is anyone like me getting excited about this game? I think it has a really neat idea when it comes to shooters. It'll HOPEFULLY make shooters much more strategic and less full of X kills/X deaths ratio we deal with in CoD4 and other games. I just hope they pull off the game right, not making it some sub-par shooter with online capabilities.

well i have no idea whats it going to be like

cause think about it

1.its a shooter meaning that your Gun is the most inportant thing

2.256 players i'm still trying to figure out how the hell are you going to do that

3. again that insanely large number creates so many new factors like maps classes vehicles and so on

4. i have a PS3

5. when they first announced it i was hyped

6. now i'm going to do what i always do before bying a game and thats wait till the reveiw

7. although i still think that 256 players is KICK ASS AWESOME

 

[MrGFunk]

Unless of course the PSN maintains it's current level of mic-usage and it's maybe a dozen or so people per teams with mics, giving orders and trying to keep everyone working together while the people without mics don't really listen because you can't hear anyone through the TV. Or they turn down the TV so they don't have to listen to the voices coming through the TV.

Yes, I know this isn't exactly accurate.

I have a MIC and a PS3 and I think this is pretty accurate, I hardly ever have the VOIP turned up. Don't sell yourself short - when you're right, you're right.

Hopefully they'll be loads of block functions - Can't join server because 1 of the 255 people is on your blocklist. Boo.

Still, I hope it's done well so I'll it.

I was just saying that because I have found games where people do have mics and do talk, but they aren't exactly common matches. I still don't get why the PS3 doesn't come with a mic.

I was agreeing with it because I have a MIC for the PS3 and I barely use it. Maybe because i'm not used to it or I don't really have a game where it's a appropriate. Also, when I have tried to use it, my friends don't have one which means I talking at them. Which is a horrible feeling.

e.g.Burnout Paradise
If you want to do a challenge reverse.
Player reverses.
Okay, lets do some challenges
Lame.

I agree the Headset should be standard because people don't automatically buy one. They should, but they don't.

 

[TheMatt]

Is it bad that I opened up this forum fully expecting to be discussing Mag'Theridon?

Thank god I quit WoW.

 

[Merciless.Fire]

I dont believe the 256 players in a game because it is crazy and imagine all the kids singing over the mics. *crawls into a corner and rocks gently back and forth sobbing*

I don't think you'll actually see 256 players on the map, nor hear them. The reason it'll be broken down to 8v8 squad based fights is to split it up and not have a massive slosh of spraying bullets.

 

[Merciless.Fire]

Is it bad that I opened up this forum fully expecting to be discussing Mag'Theridon?

Thank god I quit WoW.

Yes it is bad you thought that. Shame on you.

 

[DirkGently]

Unless of course the PSN maintains it's current level of mic-usage and it's maybe a dozen or so people per teams with mics, giving orders and trying to keep everyone working together while the people without mics don't really listen because you can't hear anyone through the TV. Or they turn down the TV so they don't have to listen to the voices coming through the TV.

Yes, I know this isn't exactly accurate.

I have a MIC and a PS3 and I think this is pretty accurate, I hardly ever have the VOIP turned up. Don't sell yourself short - when you're right, you're right.

Hopefully they'll be loads of block functions - Can't join server because 1 of the 255 people is on your blocklist. Boo.

Still, I hope it's done well so I'll it.

I was just saying that because I have found games where people do have mics and do talk, but they aren't exactly common matches. I still don't get why the PS3 doesn't come with a mic.

I was agreeing with it because I have a MIC for the PS3 and I barely use it. Maybe because i'm not used to it or I don't really have a game where it's a appropriate. Also, when I have tried to use it, my friends don't have one which means I talking at them. Which is a horrible feeling.

e.g.Burnout Paradise
If you want to do a challenge reverse.
Player reverses.
Okay, lets do some challenges
Lame.

I agree the Headset should be standard because people don't automatically buy one. They should, but they don't.

God, that's horrible. I remember when my friend's mic broke and we had to communicate via him writing things on the walls in bullets, which shortly developed into Morse Code, which was pretty darn funny. But we eventualyl got fed up with that ended up trying to communicate in AIM and XBL, and it still didn't work well. He eventually found a cellphone hands free thing; it's the same plug as an XBL wired headset, and you've probably got one lying around your hosue. Don't ask me why Sony didn't think to include that in their controllers.