The situation was that he knew shit was gonna go down, so he sped his ass over there.Shoqiyqa said:
Man kills robber. Community divided.
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There was nothing wrong in shooting that robber, that's the kind of lesson you get when you try to rob a store with a sawed-off shotgun. But there's one thing I don't quite get: When he's allowed to carry unconcealed weapons, why did he broke the law by carrying a concealed one?
People seem to be misunderstand the race thing. It's not that the shooter is accused of racism it's that the police/courts are for not filing charges with the DA and than letting the DA drop them.
If someone barges in wearing a ski mask and brandishing a shotgun, I'm going to shoot them regardless of what fucking age or race they are. And this man saved the lives of everyone else in that store, too.
People wonder why no one ever does anything in times of crisis, calling it the bystander effect. Another major factor is because of shit like this.
I'm reminded of that bit at the end of MGS2 where the Patriots are talking about... well, everything really, during the middle of a fucking swordfight no less. (Talking is a free action, I suppose.)
But one thing they said that really grabbed my attention was "The rights of criminals are given more respect than the privacy of their victims."
Ladies and gents, we continue our march towards a dystopian hellhole. *Dons bandana*
People wonder why no one ever does anything in times of crisis, calling it the bystander effect. Another major factor is because of shit like this.
I'm reminded of that bit at the end of MGS2 where the Patriots are talking about... well, everything really, during the middle of a fucking swordfight no less. (Talking is a free action, I suppose.)
But one thing they said that really grabbed my attention was "The rights of criminals are given more respect than the privacy of their victims."
Ladies and gents, we continue our march towards a dystopian hellhole. *Dons bandana*
he's no hero. he just did what he did. I don't think he should be accused of murder, but come on. taking a life to save one is just putting the guilt on yourself.
He did what he should have. If someone tries to rob a store with a gun, I believe he has the right to use a gun on them.
in that type of situation, its kill or be killed, he was in the right, anyone who says anything different would do the same thing if they where him.
OH MY GOSH, the hero was planning on robbing the store all along!Totenkopf said:
OT: I do believe this man to be a hero. He saw a huge potential threat, and got rid of said threat. And there were no race issues involved (the guys had on fucking ski masks.
Eh, people, yeah?
Frankly, I'd charge him with carrying a concealed weapon without a license and then manslaughter. If you shoot to defend yourself and/or others in the face of imminent deadly danger- which, I'd say having a shotgun pointed at you most definitely entails- you are perfectly within your rights in terms of defense. If the robber or would-be murderer dies, manslaughter charges at most. In this case the "he fired four shots" definitely warrants manslaughter.
He was in a Walgreens. I'm sure there was more than just one person there. Especially since there were what, three or four robbers?Latinidiot said:
Besides, he stopped people who had the intent to commit some pretty bad shit.
So he was in the right, even if the robber died.
no, there is no right in these situations. there is wrong, and slightly less wrong.Daezd said:
the 'hero' was slightly less wrong.
Well, none of this would have happened if people obeyed the law and didn't TRY to steal anything in the first place now wouldn't it?
The Guy is for lack of a more powerful word a hero and was well within morality and justification to do what he did. For all that could have been known at the time he was in the clear completely, he potentially could have saved the lives of everyone in the shop and the livelihood of the owner.
And if he hadn't have concealed the weapon they could have went for him first, so those charges should be dropped, or at least minimalised.
Think about it this way, if the headline was "Store got robbed by armed thugs, ex-guard chickened out" there'd be a completely different tune being played.
The Guy is for lack of a more powerful word a hero and was well within morality and justification to do what he did. For all that could have been known at the time he was in the clear completely, he potentially could have saved the lives of everyone in the shop and the livelihood of the owner.
And if he hadn't have concealed the weapon they could have went for him first, so those charges should be dropped, or at least minimalised.
Think about it this way, if the headline was "Store got robbed by armed thugs, ex-guard chickened out" there'd be a completely different tune being played.
well, he did what he did. in some places around the world, the robber could have his arms cut and castrated + lynching.
let's be happy it wasn't the other way (the victim dies because of the robber).
let's be happy it wasn't the other way (the victim dies because of the robber).
The only two things I'd find the man guilty for is having a concealed firearm without a permit and being a lousy shot. If he was competent, the man would have only shot three times (twice center mass, once in the head).
Other than that, I tip my hat to the man for protecting others.
Other than that, I tip my hat to the man for protecting others.
I'd have to say that, when a guy in a ski mask, and presumably , gloves, and otherwise fully clothed, is pointing a shotgun at you, you have more things to consider than 'hmm, I wonder if he's black, if he is I'll take a pop at him'.
Race isn't always an issue, just because there's two different shades of people involved.
To me tho, you pull a gun, you need to be ready to die, because you just raised the stakes to all or nothing.
Race isn't always an issue, just because there's two different shades of people involved.
To me tho, you pull a gun, you need to be ready to die, because you just raised the stakes to all or nothing.