Man shoots up Gym in Penn. Killing 3 then himself. THIS is what was going through his mind.

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-Orgasmatron-

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http://backupurl.com/cache/723p65.html

Read it for yourself.

Anyone else think it's interesting how somewhere in his paranoid, misanthropic mind, he made some sense?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090805/ap_on_re_us/us_health_club_shooting

Second link is the news article.

Crazy stuff, eh?
 

Arkhangelsk

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I can understand his frustration, yet I can't understand his methods. Well, desperate times take desperate methods, especially for people in desperate need. I don't hate him, I just think that he could have chosen a better way and dealt with his problems properly.
 

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I need to get a girlfriend before I go on a psychotic rampage, I guess.

No, seriously...
I'm ridiculously scared for my sanity now.
 

Titanguy654

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I've been having trouble getting a date, too. I guess I should gun down innocent people.
 

Wildrow12

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Obviously this man needed psychological help. His thoughts and motivations (as written) are representative of profound psychosis and long standing trauma that went unaddressed.

It is unfortunate that no one got to him in time.
 

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xmetatr0nx said:
Poor guy, i just feel sorry for him. Im sure this will end up in one of my psychiatry classes next semester.
You feel sorry for him? What about the women he murdered?

I understand him being despondent to the point of suicide, but the moment he chose to take another person's life, he lost all claim to sympathy.
 

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xmetatr0nx said:
berethond said:
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I need to get a girlfriend before I go on a psychotic rampage, I guess.

No, seriously...
I'm ridiculously scared for my sanity now.
Whats with dudes on here and women troubles...

Hey wait youre from cali and attractive (or so you said), anything i can help you with?
I am attractive. And women say I'm "nice" all the time.
Oh no....

I don't see how...
 

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How the hell can anyone fell sorry for this psychotic loser? What about the victims? Did anyone ever think for a second that the reason women didn't want anything to do with him is because he was a weirdo? I have a friend who is a 26 year old virgin because of his attitude towards women. They don't like him because he's bitter and he's bitter because they don't like him. But concerning this murdering ass, I don't relate to him in any way nor feel empathy, his lack of social life was clearly his own doing and because he didn't have the balls to change it he made others suffer for it. He should have just saved himself the trip and only killed himself, or gotten therapy.
 

Arsen

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You know, I am going to say something that is going to sound entirely mysoginistic and all, but I can relate to this.

Women demand too much of an attraction science these days and push away what they need. Not saying anyone deserved to die, but just saying that there is a perception that maybe...I don't know... people such as this aren't entirely to blame for their actions. Society itself and how people interact with each other make consequences such as this happen.

I feel empathy towards the man. He tried so hard and yet people pushed him away. I am reminded of several other incidents where human beings push away those that desire love and never receive it only because they didn't play the game.
 

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xmetatr0nx said:
Well im a psychiatry major, ive studied people like that guy in every facet for the past 5 years of my life. It goes without saying that i feel empathy with the family and friends of the innocent people this troubled man murdered. I also have a different view of unstable people. Most, as indicated by your comment, tend to just accuse and not recognize the source of the problem. Mental health is a tricky thing, i just wish people would stop stigmatizing it. It is a horrible thing he did, but im working to prevent these things at the source. Unfortunate psychology in general gets no help from the public who just decrys these acts and then changes the channel.
I agree with you, which is why I think, if he was gunna do this, it was good he kept a log. Lets people actually feel sympathy for him as they can see what he was thinking, which will mean people would be more willing to take steps to prevent stuff like this, rather than just thinking "Mentally retarded scum, good riddens".

That said, I in no way believe the ends justified the means here.
 

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xmetatr0nx said:
berethond said:
xmetatr0nx said:
berethond said:
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I need to get a girlfriend before I go on a psychotic rampage, I guess.

No, seriously...
I'm ridiculously scared for my sanity now.
Whats with dudes on here and women troubles...

Hey wait youre from cali and attractive (or so you said), anything i can help you with?
I am attractive. And women say I'm "nice" all the time.
Oh no....

I don't see how...
Interesting, maybe you do the common thing of nice guys and become the friend figure and not the date figure in womens lives?
Exactly that.
Because I'm not interested in any sort of physical relationship, it just ends up playing out that way.
 

The Austin

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Gee. Look, I know its tough out there. But when you'r in your 40-somthings, then theres no shame in E harmony or somthing. Right?
 

-Orgasmatron-

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Does this guy remind anyone of the dude who shot Lennon? They seem parallel to me in that both of them adored and wanted something so badly, but they couldn't have it, so eventually it becomes a symbol of hate and anger, then they go do something like that. For Mark Chapman the symbol of loathing was Lennon, for this guy it was women.

Is there a name for this type of thinking? If not, there should be.
 

The Austin

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quiet_samurai said:
How the hell can anyone fell sorry for this psychotic loser? What about the victims? Did anyone ever think for a second that the reason women didn't want anything to do with him is because he was a weirdo? I have a friend who is a 26 year old virgin because of his attitude towards women. They don't like him because he's bitter and he's bitter because they don't like him. I don't relate to him in any way nor feel empathy, his lack of social life was clearly his own doing and because he didn't have the balls to change it he made others suffer for it. He should have just saved himself the trip and only killed himself, or gotten therapy.
Lol 26 isnt TOO bad for being a virgin is is?
(I guess I wouldnt really know, I'm 15)
Lol at least its not like the 40 year old virgin or whatever.