Man shoots up Gym in Penn. Killing 3 then himself. THIS is what was going through his mind.

[Arsen]

How the hell can anyone fell sorry for this psychotic loser? What about the victims? Did anyone ever think for a second that the reason women didn't want anything to do with him is because he was a weirdo? I have a friend who is a 26 year old virgin because of his attitude towards women. They don't like him because he's bitter and he's bitter because they don't like him. I don't relate to him in any way nor feel empathy, his lack of social life was clearly his own doing and because he didn't have the balls to change it he made others suffer for it. He should have just saved himself the trip and only killed himself, or gotten therapy.

Here's my problem: Should certain individuals HAVE to succumb to the wrongdoings of society, change themselves completely, and basically become a completely different person who sacrifices their morals and beliefs...to appease and attain some vague sense of attraction which is such an overrated, exaggerated demand in today's world?

Most men that are virgin's in todays world are, in my experience, typically victims of the ignorance and demand in modern times. I seriously hold NOTHING against virgins due to this fact alone. The more morality you feel, the greater sense of reality you have, and the higher beauty you see above others is marred by the fact that you never bring yourself down to the level of the unworthy.

 

[The_Echo]

Seems like all the guy wanted was a girlfriend. Funny how one thing can ruin a person's whole life.

 

[quiet_samurai]

How the hell can anyone fell sorry for this psychotic loser? What about the victims? Did anyone ever think for a second that the reason women didn't want anything to do with him is because he was a weirdo? I have a friend who is a 26 year old virgin because of his attitude towards women. They don't like him because he's bitter and he's bitter because they don't like him. I don't relate to him in any way nor feel empathy, his lack of social life was clearly his own doing and because he didn't have the balls to change it he made others suffer for it. He should have just saved himself the trip and only killed himself, or gotten therapy.

Lol 26 isnt TOO bad for being a virgin is is?
(I guess I wouldnt really know, I'm 15)
Lol at least its not like the 40 year old virgin or whatever.

No of course not, there is nothing wrong with being a virgin. It's the things that contribute to ones virginity that I find pathetic, now this doesn't include moral, religious, or personal choices for it. Like my friend, he's an unhappy anti social individual that just thinks this ever perfect women that must fit a very specific criteria will just fall into his lap one day withou him giving an ounce of effort. That's not how life is, and the fact it hasn't happend has caused him to resent women.

 

[quiet_samurai]

How the hell can anyone fell sorry for this psychotic loser? What about the victims? Did anyone ever think for a second that the reason women didn't want anything to do with him is because he was a weirdo? I have a friend who is a 26 year old virgin because of his attitude towards women. They don't like him because he's bitter and he's bitter because they don't like him. I don't relate to him in any way nor feel empathy, his lack of social life was clearly his own doing and because he didn't have the balls to change it he made others suffer for it. He should have just saved himself the trip and only killed himself, or gotten therapy.

Here's my problem: Should certain individuals HAVE to succumb to the wrongdoings of society, change themselves completely, and basically become a completely different person who sacrifices their morals and beliefs...to appease and attain some vague sense of attraction which is such an overrated, exaggerated demand in today's world?

Most men that are virgin's in todays world are, in my experience, typically victims of the ignorance and demand in modern times. I seriously hold NOTHING against virgins due to this fact alone. The more morality you feel, the greater sense of reality you have, and the higher beauty you see above others is marred by the fact that you never bring yourself down to the level of the unworthy.

Did you ever think that maybe it's that one individual person who is the unworthy one? How is it societies fault for certain peoples shortcomings? There is no one standard in society when it comes to finding someone, and people that say there is are either ignorant or suffer from delusions. Finding a girlfriend or getting laid is not that hard to do, you just have to put in the effort and not be afraid of rejection and realize that it may take several tries. Trust me, if you stood out on the sidewalk and devoted an entire day to asking out every girl that walked by you, I guarantee one hundred percent that eventually one will say yes.

 

[DazZ.]

Very interesting read, I'm glad he wrote that all down to give insight on his personal life and why he felt the need to take his own life. However he went into absolute NO detail why he needed to take other peoples, he didn't seem to hate other non specific people to the extent to kill them, he should have killed the people who he expressed hate for in his diary, in my opinion. I can empathise up until the murder, could have fully if just a suicide.

Theory: He might have taken others lives because of his diary, and he wanted more people to read it.

Interesting, maybe you do the common thing of nice guys and become the friend figure and not the date figure in womens lives?

Exactly that.
Because I'm not interested in any sort of physical relationship, it just ends up playing out that way.

I'm pretty sure this is exactly what happens to me aswell, didn't know it was considered common. Easy fix however, just step in and make moves earlier. (Probably)

Edit:

Trust me, if you stood out on the sidewalk and devoted an entire day to asking out every girl that walked by you, I guarantee one hundred percent that eventually one will say yes.

I think this was done in a documentary, but the name escapes me. He took Viagra and drank abit and went out into the street asking all the girls to fuck him, one eventually said yes.

"A Complete History Of My Sexual Failure" it was called, I enjoyed it, don't know if it should be classed as a documentary however.

 

[-Orgasmatron-]

Very interesting read, I'm glad he wrote that all down to give insight on his personal life and why he felt the need to take his own life. However he went into absolute NO detail why he needed to take other peoples, he didn't seem to hate other non specific people to the extent to kill them, he should have killed the people who he expressed hate for in his diary, in my opinion. I can empathise up until the murder, could have fully if just a suicide.

Theory: He might have taken others lives because of his diary, and he wanted more people to read it.

He expressed hate for women in his diary, women became the symbol of his hate, that's why he killed them and no men.

 

[Gaderael]

Too bad the coward shot himself.

 

[DazZ.]

However he went into absolute NO detail why he needed to take other peoples, he didn't seem to hate other non specific people to the extent to kill them, he should have killed the people who he expressed hate for in his diary, in my opinion. I can empathise up until the murder, could have fully if just a suicide.

Theory: He might have taken others lives because of his diary, and he wanted more people to read it.

He expressed hate for women in his diary, women became the symbol of his hate, that's why he killed them and no men.

Was that mostly at the top? Towards the end there was nout (which is the bits I remember... damn memory.

Edit: I can't find a point where he shows hate to the point where he's going to murder specifically women. He just seems jealous of black people in college getting laid and he's not. He just complains he's lonely and I cant find a bit where he points the blame solely on women.

It is early can someone quote me a bit that is a definite "I hate women so much they deserve to die" part? Seems more like he hates the singular people he points out midway down.

 

[-Orgasmatron-]

He expressed hate for women in his diary, women became the symbol of his hate, that's why he killed them and no men.

Was that mostly at the top? Towards the end there was nout (which is the bits I remember... damn memory.[/quote]

He didn't say it out right, but give it another read and you'll see he had that jist going the whole way through.

 

[joystickjunki3]

Poor guy. I know what he did was unreasonable, but it makes me a bit sad to think that he thought this was his only option.

 

[Arsen]

How the hell can anyone fell sorry for this psychotic loser? What about the victims? Did anyone ever think for a second that the reason women didn't want anything to do with him is because he was a weirdo? I have a friend who is a 26 year old virgin because of his attitude towards women. They don't like him because he's bitter and he's bitter because they don't like him. I don't relate to him in any way nor feel empathy, his lack of social life was clearly his own doing and because he didn't have the balls to change it he made others suffer for it. He should have just saved himself the trip and only killed himself, or gotten therapy.

Here's my problem: Should certain individuals HAVE to succumb to the wrongdoings of society, change themselves completely, and basically become a completely different person who sacrifices their morals and beliefs...to appease and attain some vague sense of attraction which is such an overrated, exaggerated demand in today's world?

Most men that are virgin's in todays world are, in my experience, typically victims of the ignorance and demand in modern times. I seriously hold NOTHING against virgins due to this fact alone. The more morality you feel, the greater sense of reality you have, and the higher beauty you see above others is marred by the fact that you never bring yourself down to the level of the unworthy.

Did you ever think that maybe it's that one individual person who is the unworthy one? How is it societies fault for certain peoples shortcomings? There is no one standard in society when it comes to finding someone, and people that say there is are either ignorant or suffer from delusions. Finding a girlfriend or getting laid is not that hard to do, you just have to put in the effort and not be afraid of rejection and realize that it may take several tries. Trust me, if you stood out on the sidewalk and devoted an entire day to asking out every girl that walked by you, I guarantee one hundred percent that eventually one will say yes.

There are many in society who walk with their heads upright that as far as I'm concerned, have no God Given reason to do so, and end up receiving everything.

This is life. Those are born as kings become servants and the servants become kings...because there are more servants around.

 

[DazZ.]

He expressed hate for women in his diary, women became the symbol of his hate, that's why he killed them and no men.

Was that mostly at the top? Towards the end there was nout (which is the bits I remember... damn memory.

He didn't say it out right, but give it another read and you'll see he had that jist going the whole way through.

Ahh ok, I've edited my other post, I suppose all the little times he mentions it adds up to more than the ones he comes out with blatantly once.

 

[SomeUnregPunk]

How can anyone have empathy for this guy? After reading all that I didn't feel any empathy. I felt it was pathetic. Especially the last bit.

 

[Syntax Error]

....
I need to get a girlfriend before I go on a psychotic rampage, I guess.

No, seriously...
I'm ridiculously scared for my sanity now.

Whats with dudes on here and women troubles...

Hey wait youre from cali and attractive (or so you said), anything i can help you with?

I am attractive. And women say I'm "nice" all the time.
Oh no....

I don't see how...

Interesting, maybe you do the common thing of nice guys and become the friend figure and not the date figure in womens lives?

Spoiler: obligatory xkcd comic goes here

 

[Skreeee]

For the good of the world I must start dating as many lonely men as possible.

*dons cape* Let's do this boys!

 

[teutonicman]

The bullet was going through his mind.

 

[-Orgasmatron-]

For the good of the world I must start dating as many lonely men as possible.

*dons cape* Let's do this boys!

Seriously ladies, blow jobs save lives!

 

[riskroWe]

He seems like a bitter, arrogant little man who wanted things without working for them.
God I hope I'm not turning into that...

 

[ScarlettRage]

i couldn't even read the whole thing is depressing..
that guy really needed to get laid..

 

[Susan Arendt]

Poor guy, i just feel sorry for him. Im sure this will end up in one of my psychiatry classes next semester.

You feel sorry for him? What about the women he murdered?

I understand him being despondent to the point of suicide, but the moment he chose to take another person's life, he lost all claim to sympathy.

Well im a psychiatry major, ive studied people like that guy in every facet for the past 5 years of my life. It goes without saying that i feel empathy with the family and friends of the innocent people this troubled man murdered. I also have a different view of unstable people. Most, as indicated by your comment, tend to just accuse and not recognize the source of the problem. Mental health is a tricky thing, i just wish people would stop stigmatizing it. It is a horrible thing he did, but im working to prevent these things at the source. Unfortunate psychology in general gets no help from the public who just decrys these acts and then changes the channel.

How am I accusing or not recognizing the source of the problem? Obviously he was unwell. I'm not accusing him of anything other than murdering innocent strangers, which he did.

However, you do make one fair point -- I should amend my statement to say that he lost all right to my sympathy. It's not for me to say how anyone else should feel about him.