Man shoots up Gym in Penn. Killing 3 then himself. THIS is what was going through his mind.
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Fuck that guy.
He's despondent, selfish, detached, and a coward. Sounds like he deserves to be alone. Should have just killed himself instead of taking three innocent women with him. Nothing is ever an excuse for cold-blooded murder, ever.
No sympathy.
He's despondent, selfish, detached, and a coward. Sounds like he deserves to be alone. Should have just killed himself instead of taking three innocent women with him. Nothing is ever an excuse for cold-blooded murder, ever.
No sympathy.
Yeah, I figured. I should have said, "I'm sure you don't condone this kind of stuff..." first, huh? I think if some people feel bad for this guy, it's not like that means they support what he did. We're all human, yeah? (For the most part...lol) Sad stories tend to generate empathy in people, don't they?-Orgasmatron- said:
The perceivable problem with this man was his sense of value he seemed to think that having a woman in his life was the biggest thing that he could achieve he became solely focused around this this was the reason that he did not have much luck with woman as his perverse angle of looking at life was off putting i believe even if he had gotten a girl friend this would not of solved his problem as he would of thought that by getting a girl he had achieved the highest goal he could.
For all you people saying about him being lonely his loneliness was not caused by a lack of love but a lack of achievement you see how he keeps quoting dates when he last had sex ect? this shows that he was not out for love but he felt substandard because he felt that he hadn't achieved anything with his life when he compared himself to the you collage girls.
of course i do not claim to be a psychiatrist but i dont think that any man who is up set because of a lack of love goes out and murders other women that seems the actions of someone who is bitter to me.
For all you people saying about him being lonely his loneliness was not caused by a lack of love but a lack of achievement you see how he keeps quoting dates when he last had sex ect? this shows that he was not out for love but he felt substandard because he felt that he hadn't achieved anything with his life when he compared himself to the you collage girls.
of course i do not claim to be a psychiatrist but i dont think that any man who is up set because of a lack of love goes out and murders other women that seems the actions of someone who is bitter to me.
Well, I would be sorry for this guy, had he not been trigger happy.
The psychos in the world. They scare me.
But honestly, I don't understand why people decide, "Hey! I have a horrible life! I think i'll kill some people!" Their brains just...just don't make sense.
The psychos in the world. They scare me.
But honestly, I don't understand why people decide, "Hey! I have a horrible life! I think i'll kill some people!" Their brains just...just don't make sense.
Education about mental illness? We're definitely in agreement there. It's something that is horribly stigmatized -- which is one large reason people don't seek treatment.xmetatr0nx said:
I hate to say it, but really. What a *****.
"Oooh waaaaah I'm so lonely!"
Someone call the waaahmbulance we've and got a case of grade A weeping!
And coincidentally, gunshot wounds.
"Oooh waaaaah I'm so lonely!"
Someone call the waaahmbulance we've and got a case of grade A weeping!
And coincidentally, gunshot wounds.
The ironic part is that they go to the gym for their health.
Macabre humor side, if you're grabbing a load of guns to go shoot up people in a gym, it's pretty likely your mentally unhinged enough that anything you psychotically rant about should and will be taken with the copious grains of salt being delivered by the crazy train express you're the engineer of.
Sure, rejection is something that provoke hard feelings on a sheer genetic level, and any heterosexual man can sympathize with a desire for female companionship, but saying, "that guy who performed a cold-blooded murder/suicide because he hasn't got any in 19 years sounds like he's pretty on the ball with his reasoning" is silly.
Macabre humor side, if you're grabbing a load of guns to go shoot up people in a gym, it's pretty likely your mentally unhinged enough that anything you psychotically rant about should and will be taken with the copious grains of salt being delivered by the crazy train express you're the engineer of.
Sure, rejection is something that provoke hard feelings on a sheer genetic level, and any heterosexual man can sympathize with a desire for female companionship, but saying, "that guy who performed a cold-blooded murder/suicide because he hasn't got any in 19 years sounds like he's pretty on the ball with his reasoning" is silly.
If it weren't for people talking this way, maybe he would of been to humiliated to get mental help, which might of lead to him and those women still being alive.Mrsnugglesworth said:
He was mentally unstable as is! And he said that everyone was nice to him. So... Please read material that HE wrote before ASS U MEing.-Orgasmatron- said:
People being nice and therapy are two different things. People around him probaly made comments like the one you made above and this made him embarrased to talk about his problem. By the time he wrote that journal he was far to far gone for help, but that doesn't mean he was always that way.Mrsnugglesworth said:
I can sort of empathize with his frustration with women, as I am hardly a ladies man, and that was particularly true during my years in high school. HOWEVER, I chose to get advice and get help when I got so angry I thought I might be a danger to others. Since then, I have had a couple girlfriends and a (relatively) successful social life. My current single status has more to do with me being stuck indoors getting my Masters degree, and for the moment, that's not such a bad thing, at least until I get my thesis done. Then I plan on getting back on the dating circuit.
I guess my point is that he should have been more introspective about himself as a person as opposed to blaming everyone else. This guy was angry as all hell. Most women I know do not find this an endearing quality. According to his neighbor's account he was also extremely anti-social. He can hardly expect women to flock to him if he never gets out, regardless of his physical appearance (which appears to be the only thing he was working on, and suggests that he very well might have regarded women simply as shallow sex objects, which also doesn't help).
However, at the end of the day, it was still his choice to resort to senseless violence instead of seeking help. To brutally murder three people he doesn't know from anybody purely because he can't face his own issues is not by any stretch acceptable, and I feel so bad for the families of the victims for suffering at the hands of a narcissist who projected his own shortcomings onto everyone else. I agree with Susan Arendt: The stigma regarding seeking counseling needs to be done away with, and I hope that would reduce the number people who do things like this. Some people are truly beyond help (that's a quote from my therapist), but not all of them, and it seriously bothers me to think of how many people scream for help (even if they don't realize it themselves) and either no one listens or they are ridiculed for it.
In any event, it is a tragedy on all fronts.
I guess my point is that he should have been more introspective about himself as a person as opposed to blaming everyone else. This guy was angry as all hell. Most women I know do not find this an endearing quality. According to his neighbor's account he was also extremely anti-social. He can hardly expect women to flock to him if he never gets out, regardless of his physical appearance (which appears to be the only thing he was working on, and suggests that he very well might have regarded women simply as shallow sex objects, which also doesn't help).
However, at the end of the day, it was still his choice to resort to senseless violence instead of seeking help. To brutally murder three people he doesn't know from anybody purely because he can't face his own issues is not by any stretch acceptable, and I feel so bad for the families of the victims for suffering at the hands of a narcissist who projected his own shortcomings onto everyone else. I agree with Susan Arendt: The stigma regarding seeking counseling needs to be done away with, and I hope that would reduce the number people who do things like this. Some people are truly beyond help (that's a quote from my therapist), but not all of them, and it seriously bothers me to think of how many people scream for help (even if they don't realize it themselves) and either no one listens or they are ridiculed for it.
In any event, it is a tragedy on all fronts.
Thats very true. But judging by my avatar (Thomas Hobbes, if you've heard of him yay, if you haven't hear of him) I believe Humans are bad and we should feel bad about being so bad. Now my REAL opinion that I kept to myself not to provoke the unbridled fury of nice people is... Mentally Unstable people/Retarded people who cannot live by themselves or have another problem (Really bad fetishes like Blood/Murder/Pedophile/this guy type of crazy) should just be killed. Thats it. Done. All they're doing is wasting resources. Also, I've been to therapy. All I did was lie and on the crazy scale I'm... well I'm quite crazy but thats not the point. It was useless and... I can't really remember why I was there. So my point is moot. *sigh*-Orgasmatron- said: