Man shoots up Gym in Penn. Killing 3 then himself. THIS is what was going through his mind.

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DAMG

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I empathize with him; I understand his death wish, but his killing of others isn't justifiable. He didn't really express hate in his writings though. The article really makes him seem like some terrible man, who happens to be an absolute loser, ending with "He was just pretty normal, a little quiet ? like the classroom nerd." His family doesn't mention him at all, haha. Man, this guy needed a hobby, some goals, and maybe a nice visit to e-harmony like someone else mentioned.
 

elricik

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What's chilling about the diary, is down under the last entry he states that most people had no idea he was this crazy. That means he realized he was crazy. This definitely does make for an interesting read, I think maybe I will treat it as a novel and read the whole thing, if only because I'm bored.
 

Lord_Panzer

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Fascinating and horrifying at the same time.

I'm really at a loss as to what to say. Certainly casts a detailed light into his issues, that's for sure.
 

Epictank of Wintown

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You know what I'm finding utterly hilarious about this thread? All these people saying "But killing people doesn't make any sense!" Really? You know WHY?

He. Was. Psychotic. Out of his mind. Loopy. Crazy. Insane.

To the rest of you basically spouting 'lol loser lol', try being rejected by every woman you talk to for nineteen solid years and feeling like you're doing everything you can to get it right. It'd wear even the most stout-hearted individual down.

Am I defending his murder of three innocent women? No.

Do I think this could have been avoided? Yes. The warning signs were there. The general populace just isn't educated enough to see them, as usual.
 

Booze Zombie

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I think that in his antisocialness, he probably never understood female emotions or when the right time was to ask a woman out... his years of misunderstand culminating in a great crescendo of stupidity.

He liked to paint himself as a victim, but in reality... what probably caused all of this was his own selfishness, as I'm told there's no less of a turn-off than a selfish man.

Still, I can sympathise with how 20 years of datlessness could make you feel terrible.
Let it not be said that I am without emotion.
 

Xojins

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I feel badly for him. It's weird though because many of the thoughts he shared go through my mind a lot. Perhaps I'm crazy, but I don't think I am.

Edit: Not talking about the suicidal/homicidal aspects.
 

Booze Zombie

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Xojins said:
I feel badly for him. It's weird though because many of the thoughts he shared go through my mind a lot. Perhaps I'm crazy, but I don't think I am.

Edit: Not talking about the suicidal/homicidal aspects.
If you mean about women, seriously just try not actively pursuing a female and an interested party will normally show up eventually, you just need a wingman to spot it.
 

Xojins

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Booze Zombie said:
Xojins said:
I feel badly for him. It's weird though because many of the thoughts he shared go through my mind a lot. Perhaps I'm crazy, but I don't think I am.

Edit: Not talking about the suicidal/homicidal aspects.
If you mean about women, seriously just try not actively pursuing a female and an interested party will normally show up eventually, you just need a wingman to spot it.
I'm actually gay so... not that. Beside that I'm not concerned with love or finding a partner at this point. If it happens it happens.
 

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that was plain chillingly to read, rather interesting though.

he did seem to fit a normal personality with just a serve case of depression. if he sought medical help he would of been perscribed simple anti-depressive pills, which could of fixed this total mess...

sadly he seemed like a nice guy that just got the bad end of the stick in life... that just sucks.
 

Damo004

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Xojins said:
Booze Zombie said:
Xojins said:
I feel badly for him. It's weird though because many of the thoughts he shared go through my mind a lot. Perhaps I'm crazy, but I don't think I am.

Edit: Not talking about the suicidal/homicidal aspects.
If you mean about women, seriously just try not actively pursuing a female and an interested party will normally show up eventually, you just need a wingman to spot it.
I'm actually gay so... not that. Beside that I'm not concerned with love or finding a partner at this point. If it happens it happens.
Erghhh, sounds like him around 1990's... lets hope you dont slide of the end of the sanity rail
 

Grayl

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I have no sympathy for this guy, and those that do... I don't really know what to say about you.

Yeah, I guess he needed help, but he never seeked help... he seemed quite intelligent, too. He had his own views on the world and was happy to announce them in a diary. But I have my own views on the world, and I would be happy to announce them, but I would NEVER consider killing anyone and definitely not myself.

If he did this because he was lonely, well... there are many ways to find love. Before my GF, I know I felt down in the dumps, but he was making it out like sex is EVERYTHING, and that without it life is meaningless.

But this is completely un-true; I have sex regularly, and if someone told me they'd eradicate it forever, I'd be sad of course, but I wouldn't go on a killing spree. And if I was lonely for twenty years, I wouldn't go on a killing spree... I'd never go on a killing spree, actually.

I don't know if this guy needed help, or if he was just a horrible person overall. But there are all sorts of people in the world, and some are bound to be genetically... errr... ahem... mental? A waste of life?

Either way, he's gone now, and it's a damn shame he took some lives with him. I guess that's part of the problem of legally allowing guns in your country... the other part of the problem is him being mental, and not psychologically sound.
 

Grabbin Keelz

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If I died and found this man in heaven, I would hang out with him and grab him a drink were we could discuss life and become best friends. Seriously, anyone who is intelligent, friendly, cool, and rescedules their killing rampage apointments to next month because they felt like today just wasn't a good day, then I gotta respect them.
But as I read this an overpowering sensation creeps up on me. What if I am alone for the rest of my life? In my 17 years of living no female on earth has said or made any hint watsoever that I was attractive, or even decent. I say female because in middle school a bunch of guys thought it was cool to act gay. Dumbasses.
 

AbsoluteVirtue18

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I refuse to have any form of sympathy for this guy. "Women don't like me" is no reason to kill people at random.
 

SimpleChimp

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MaxTheReaper said:
Oh waaah, Crazy McPsychoPants can't get a date.

Maybe the chicks he went after realized he was inclined towards murdering people because he couldn't get laid (incidentally the worst excuse ever. I mean, at least "daddy beat me and mommy didn't love me" happened when you were a child, and therefore incapable of surviving without some form of affection.)
What you fail to actually understand is he realized these were normal functions that he could not carry threw. His brother teased him and embarrassed him in-front of girls and it built to a 19 year celibacy that simply was to much for the poor man.

Reading through his journal i could tell he was intelligent, i actually thought he could make a good writer and against better judgement hoped that it was a farce.

What he did was wrong, no doubt about it, but when you take an intellectual capable of certain thought processes and analysis and leave him alone with no possible outlet like friends and women, then the gift that was his brain will turn on him and eat him alive. Like most people get panic attacks when life throws an unexpected curve ball, or when you realize you are stuck in a rut, this man lived a life with no reprieve. The only outlet was his journal.

I believe if he atleast got laid it wouldn't have happened. Or if he had a buddy that told him to suck it up maybe he would have turned out all right.
 

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unfortunately the urge to kill is too easy to feel now a days. Hate moves through the air like a friggin disease. I rather like the part where the guy says religion is a joke... I don't totally believe that but it's not important. The only thing I can say is the guy didn't need to attack the health club. you either go on a spree and get caught or you are too much of a coward for jail to kill yourself. It's a choice a, b, or c a is get caught b is don't attack and kill yourself or c (rational choice) get over it and set your sights lower.
 

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SenseOfTumour said:
Also, I don't believe its all about sex, althought of course that's part of it.

Sure us guys need release regularly, but we're quite capable of doing that alone.

What we really need tho, is the acceptance and human contact of a woman, I think there's pretty much nothing better than just laying in bed with one you love, knowing you're both fully content with each other, and even just a hug can be a big boost to someone who's feeling low.
I was about to chime in with this exact sentiment, but you've thoughtfully beaten me to it.

Good on you, I say.
 

QuirkyTambourine

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Just...wow all sorts of strange stuff you find on the internet, the diary of a mass murderer shouldn't be a surprise to me I guess. I actually read through the whole thing since he was coherent in his writing. Poor guy, I can't ever justify his means but still I feel a small amount of sympathy for him, and even more for all that he took with him.