Man shoots up Gym in Penn. Killing 3 then himself. THIS is what was going through his mind.

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crypt-creature

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Cheeze_Pavilion said:
Commitment, and responsibility.
No, that doesn't mean that every married parent will be responsible.

Though now I'm curious as to the ratio of people who are married and have kids against those that are single. And what age brackets they fall under.

Cheeze_Pavilion said:
Well then your issue isn't with people who sleep around, it's with people who are manipulative/Maybe, but, that has nothing then to do with how many hamburgers they eat and how many butchers they go to, it's about people eating undercooked meat/Well, sure, but that's not about people "sleeping around" it's about people not using their brains.

I think you're confusing the behavior itself with people behaving *badly*
Or I see it as people use the behavior itself as an excuse to behave badly.
 

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The guy killed innocent people, I don't care what his motives were. Not being able to find yourself a woman does not justify harming anyone.

I won't lose any sleep for the murdering loner, the guy is a coward.
 

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Cheeze_Pavilion said:
Why are people considering spending their lives with someone more 'responsible' than those who are not? Responsibility is about being honest with yourself, not about whether you restrict those you sleep with to those you consider spending your life with.

To say nothing of all those people who get caught up in 'love' and prematurely consider spending their lives with people they shouldn't--weren't you talking about that before, about 'attraction' leading to people getting married who never should have been married in the first place?

And as far as commitment, wouldn't it work the opposite way? If you're considering spending your life with someone, and you get pregnant well...you just get married earlier than you were planning.
I also never said every single person who gets married made a wise decision, which would go back to why they married the person and how long it took them to reach such a decision.
There are quite a few people who sleep around that are not honest with their self, half the time that actually contributes to why they sleep around so much to begin with.

Cheeze_Pavilion said:
Well, that's not really relevant--just because someone's single doesn't mean they were one of those people who were 'sleeping around': they just as easily could be one of those people who falls in love to quickly or like you said, that puts too much emphasis on attraction.
It isn't that relevant, unless a question like 'do you sleep with multiple partners' would come up.
Also just curios to see how many would answer it honestly and what kinds of questions something like that would have.

Cheeze_Pavilion said:
Well then your issue isn't with people who sleep around, it's with people who are manipulative/Maybe, but, that has nothing then to do with how many hamburgers they eat and how many butchers they go to, it's about people eating undercooked meat/Well, sure, but that's not about people "sleeping around" it's about people not using their brains.
The problem is still with the people who sleep around since those people also tend to be the manipulative ones and don't use their brains (it's a long odd connection in my brain).
I'm not trying to say this is every one who sleeps around, but a fair few act immaturely on the matter.

Cheeze_Pavilion said:
Not *all* the people engaging in the behavior use it as an excuse to behave badly, though.

In fact, they're not really behaving badly at all--the only thing they are doing is avoiding a relationship when they're actually ready for one. The only person that hurts is them--at worst, that's immature behavior, not bad behavior.

On the other hand, people getting into relationships when they should be sleeping around...they're the ones that really cause damage to other people.

Are you sure you're not really trying to argue that some people sleep around too much according to your personal moral code?
Those that are sleeping around when they should be in a relationship cause just as much damage. Though with both incidents, people just don't seem to know what they want. Do they want just a sex partner, or do they want something more out of the deal.

And yes, I'm sure I'm not trying to argue that point because of a moral code.
I've been in those situations and am speaking from experience, and from observing others in those situations.
 

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Even though a "normal" person could think the same things he did, a normal mind wouldent react the same way.

A sane person would know, nothing good would come out of killing people, it will neather make you feel better, or solve the problem.

So if you sit and read this, and think "That guy could be me in a few years" Relax, even if your a bit mental, theres a large step from thinking bad things, to do bad things.

And if you still afraid you might end up doing the same, get locked up in some mental hospital, or just shoot your self, dont drag others into it :D

Hope it made some sence, i know my english is very bad :D
 

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Cheeze_Pavilion said:
And maybe half the time people not being honest with themselves actually contributes to why they get married--in fact, the statistics on divorce aren't far off from that.

So...it's basically a wash, isn't' it?
It very well could be. I doubt it will ever be proven or disproven though.

Cheeze_Pavilion said:
lolwut! Yeah...I disagree with that.
Disagree all you want, that was just my opinion.
You also have to realize I'm not going to say all of them are like that, because they aren't. It was a generalization.

Cheeze_Pavilion said:
How? And I'm not talking about through their misbehavior--I'm talking about the responsible ones here, just like you're not talking about those who get married out of misbehaviour.
The responsible ones should be fine, so long as the person they're about to sleep around with Isn't being manipulated, is just as responsible, and has no problem with the idea.
It's not the responsible ones I have a problem with, but the responsible ones are also the people I see far less frequently.

Cheeze_Pavilion said:
Are you sure you're biased by your personal experiences then?
Yes, I am slightly biased by personal experience, by those of my friends, others I have talked to through various places of work and college, and people I choose to watch or listen to when I go places.
I don't care if someone sleeps around as long as they are being responsible about it. There are plenty of men and women who are not.
 

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This guy is the biggest idiot in any antisocial group ever.

Speaking as a person who tends to have a lot of hate in the pit of his festering, burning, yet flower-enriched soul, killing people makes no sense what-so-ever. People will replace them. Over and Over and Over and Over again. Some people stupider then who they replace, some smarter, some stockier but none the less replaced.

Human beings should not being killing other human beings, let the animals do it, next time, throw fish food on the women and place them near a starving fish tank. Rub them with catnip and place them in the lion pen at the zoo.

In all seriousness, i am a mild anti-socialite who hates the newer generation but for better reasons, mainly because it's that this world will end with this generation, and i don't want some sentient race of whatever coming here and finding out all guys dressed in women's tight jeans and shirts, and women tanned there skin to the point of crusting.
 
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Yep, i could see myself in that position in 20 years. And since reading his notes, i understand why he went for the gym, instead of going for the high score in someplace more crowded.
For the most part, women are just horrible people.
 

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That was really, really depressing.
Fuck.

I could tell by reading the blog that he was clearly a little screwed in the head... Ugh.

I feel bad for the victims and their families, but something about the words he wrote just gets to me. Just look at his picture and think about passing a hundred guys just like him. No one knows what people are thinking, and frankly, no one seems to care.

I'll hush now...

/:
 

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Cheeze_Pavilion said:
[Sometimes getting laid isn't about release--sometimes getting laid gives that feeling of acceptance.

You don't have to be in love to get a feeling of contentedness lying in bed next to someone you were just physically intimate with. Sometimes you don't need love, you just need someone equally enthusiastic to express their sexuality.

Yeah--the group of humans to whom getting laid is important isn't a boys-only club, either.

So true... as a basic need, physical intimacy tends to get more intense with men due to a couple of social norms:

Women will usually be more likely to open up and talk to friends and family when they feel lonely or hurt.

Men have often been trained to bottle things away and have been taught that showing weakness or emotional vulnerability is somehow a bad thing.

We're getting better though.
 

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Simriel said:
I shall wear a waistcoat and a bowler hat. Any man wearing a waistcoat and a bowler hat is instantly classy.
Request for clarification: you don't mean only a waistcoat and bowler hat, do you?
 

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Shoqiyqa said:
Simriel said:
I shall wear a waistcoat and a bowler hat. Any man wearing a waistcoat and a bowler hat is instantly classy.
Request for clarification: you don't mean only a waistcoat and bowler hat, do you?
Depends on the situation.
 

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-Orgasmatron- said:
Anyone else think it's interesting how somewhere in his paranoid, misanthropic mind, he made some sense?
How else do you think he came to the conclusion that this was the correct course of action? He caught mind-rabies?

Honestly, most so-called "crazies" don't just lose all reason and become animals somehow. To say that's a stupid way to think about mental instability is a massive understatement.
 

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He killed women and an hero'd because he couldn't get any? Well, at least it had nothing to do with video games.
 

garjian

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meh...

*skim reads article, reads posts for the jist* :p

i dont see why he didnt just go to some brothel or something...
at the very least go for a dangerwank somewhere lol...

ah well... i expect this kind of behaviour these days... i mean...
how many times have you questioned whats stopping you killing the nearest person?
it is a fine line... :/ well... for me at least... i dunno about anyone else :p