Watch Paprika. Possibly best film ever made. Also, read Vampire Knight. Once you understand whats going on (read all books three times before continuing) its awesome.
Manga and Anime: Is there anything worthwhile out there....seriously?
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Ive got a question...The original Battle Angel Alita manga was one of the few manga/animes that I liked and recently I heard that a bunch more were published from about 2003. Has anyone here read them all? I liked the cyberpunk/post apoc/everything is shit themes in the original but from what I could gather the new stuff is in space or something. Might consider tracking them down(assuming they've been released as GN's). Anyone?
EDIT: I would recommend (almost the sum total of manga's that I liked)
Appleseed volumes 1-4
Battle Angel Alita (original, obviously I don't know what the new ones are like)
Akira
Heh, shows how old I am eh?
EDIT: I would recommend (almost the sum total of manga's that I liked)
Appleseed volumes 1-4
Battle Angel Alita (original, obviously I don't know what the new ones are like
)Akira
Heh, shows how old I am eh?
Possibly been said, but if it has, and I'm just repeating? Then oh well.
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex: Second Gig
The movies for Ghost in the Shell.
The movie Akira.
Yeah. That's all I've got. Seriously though GitS is awesome.
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex: Second Gig
The movies for Ghost in the Shell.
The movie Akira.
Yeah. That's all I've got. Seriously though GitS is awesome.
I recommend anything by Studio Ghibli (though I found Castle of Cagliostro as well as Laputa Castle in the Sky to be a little boring).
AKIRA is an utter animation classic, it makes no sense but damn the animation is sweet.
Ghost in the Shell is fantastic, the S.A.C series or the two movies, the second one is technologically amazing.
Full Metal Alchemist and Bleach are good ones for more serious anime with still some humour.
Lucky Star is adorable but funny, as well as Azumanga Daioh which is slower but very quirky.
You might like Excel Saga but it's an oddball laden with parodies of anything and everything and makes no goddamn sense. Personally I hate it but maybe you'll enjoy it, I dunno.
As for manga I only ever read a few of them to recommend you. Battle Royale (a greatly dark satire on the concept of reality TV), Gyo (absolutely FUCKED UP horror manga), and Gon (innovative little anime with no dialogue about a cute little dinosaur living amongst modern animals).
AKIRA is an utter animation classic, it makes no sense but damn the animation is sweet.
Ghost in the Shell is fantastic, the S.A.C series or the two movies, the second one is technologically amazing.
Full Metal Alchemist and Bleach are good ones for more serious anime with still some humour.
Lucky Star is adorable but funny, as well as Azumanga Daioh which is slower but very quirky.
You might like Excel Saga but it's an oddball laden with parodies of anything and everything and makes no goddamn sense. Personally I hate it but maybe you'll enjoy it, I dunno.
As for manga I only ever read a few of them to recommend you. Battle Royale (a greatly dark satire on the concept of reality TV), Gyo (absolutely FUCKED UP horror manga), and Gon (innovative little anime with no dialogue about a cute little dinosaur living amongst modern animals).
I like to read the manga, not a huge anime fan, I have converted my friend from an anime watcher to a manga reader, he hates me but he cannot stop, I feel a sense of acomplishment(Sp?) well, like sky14kemea said, its all up to preferences(Sp?)
holy hell, people, why has no one mentioned Higurashi no Naku Koro ni? it's two parts cute, three parts psychotic, and five parts just straight up mind f**k. but asides from that, i also recommend...
anything by studio ghibli
ouran high school host club
samurai champloo
ghost in the shell
paprika (warning! this is a movie meant to be experienced, not necessarily understood)
neon genesis evangelion
azumanga daioh
pandora hearts
kuroshitsuji
and hetalia
oh, and hell girl was pretty entertaining, too.
anything by studio ghibli
ouran high school host club
samurai champloo
ghost in the shell
paprika (warning! this is a movie meant to be experienced, not necessarily understood)
neon genesis evangelion
azumanga daioh
pandora hearts
kuroshitsuji
and hetalia
oh, and hell girl was pretty entertaining, too.
BERSERK! without a shadow of a doubt BERSERK, its got sex, violence, religious cruelty, religious bashing everything you can think of
i'll even give ya a link since most sites don't have it
http://www.thespectrum.net/manga_scans/berserk/
first 3 volumes are the "present" end of 3-14ish is flashback until Guts is in the cave with Cascka (i swear i will never know how to say her name)
i'll even give ya a link since most sites don't have it
http://www.thespectrum.net/manga_scans/berserk/
first 3 volumes are the "present" end of 3-14ish is flashback until Guts is in the cave with Cascka (i swear i will never know how to say her name)
Generally speaking I got into Anime as part of a general interest in science fiction and fantasy. I was arguably watching Anime before it was "cool" and then still watch it somewhat now that it's just plain out geeky.
Overall I think the problem is that to begin with only the best of the best anime made it to the US, and Fansub groups were few and far between. Fans however demanded more and more (and I admit to an extent this was me) but over time it got to the point where the stuff released in the US also became a lot less selective so we wound up getting a lot of overpriced crap dropped on the market. Then of course you started having people take things a bit too far. I mean to an extent it WAS cool at one time to know a few words of Japanese here and there (oh wow, you can' actually translate that) nowadays it's just strange, specially when people start dumping pigeonhole Japanese into conversations and the like.
Back when I started the appeal of anime wasn't just the sex and violence (though that helped) but the fact that even if it was fairly simple overall, they were playing around with concepts like neural interfaces, nano-technology, hyperdimensional engineering (things like Tesseracts written by people who actually understood the concepts even if the characters in the storyline didn't really figure it out) and stuff like that. They also touched on issues of religion, mythology, and inserted things like highly descriptive satanism that American media just wouldn't touch. I mean sure, the idea of some guy going up against demons with high technology, or reversing the story and having a demon hero fighting bad guys with high technology, or whatever was not original when Anime was doing it, but for something like that you had to read a book or play an RPG. To see someone draw it and work it out as a cartoon with voice acting and such was simply awesome.
For example, back in like the early-mid 1990s ADV decided to release a set of videos called "Devil Hunter Yohko". The series being about a high school girl who is trained to fight demons, and of course gets involved in it very reluctantly as they start popping up everywhere. That was cool, as it was differant at the time. This was around before things like the "Buffy The Vampire Slayer" TV series (as far as I know). It remained cool after I saw variations on the same basic concept a few times, but after that it got really blah, you know "been there, seen this" type thing and what's more it progressively got worse as more and more incompetant people decided to milk the same ideas.
You do see some true originality (or unique spins on established concepts) in Anime, but like any other media it's few and far between. I think it was always like this, but it's become increasingly clear the more we see and the less selective American releases become due to the demand. I also do notice a general trend for a lot of the best stuff to be intentionally kept "Japanese Only" (for reasons which would spawn a whole differant discussion) and I think we've become a place to shovel third rate junk for a quick profit in recent years.
I mean it gets to the point where the pretty high school girl reluctantly becomes an empowered hero has been done to death. So has the feline anthromorph thing. Throw in battle armor, robots, demons, magic, cyborgs, or whatever it's all been done. Even with that stuff existing in various combinations. It simply takes more to make it satisfying, and the older, more selective stuff seems to weather the test of time better (probably why it was selected to begin with) than some of the newer releases.
Heck when Cowboy Beebop was first released it was done by Animevillage.Com (now defunct) on VHS. I notice it makes "best of" lists and it's got to be 10 or more years old in the US. That right there says a lot.
>>>----Therumancer--->
Overall I think the problem is that to begin with only the best of the best anime made it to the US, and Fansub groups were few and far between. Fans however demanded more and more (and I admit to an extent this was me) but over time it got to the point where the stuff released in the US also became a lot less selective so we wound up getting a lot of overpriced crap dropped on the market. Then of course you started having people take things a bit too far. I mean to an extent it WAS cool at one time to know a few words of Japanese here and there (oh wow, you can' actually translate that) nowadays it's just strange, specially when people start dumping pigeonhole Japanese into conversations and the like.
Back when I started the appeal of anime wasn't just the sex and violence (though that helped) but the fact that even if it was fairly simple overall, they were playing around with concepts like neural interfaces, nano-technology, hyperdimensional engineering (things like Tesseracts written by people who actually understood the concepts even if the characters in the storyline didn't really figure it out) and stuff like that. They also touched on issues of religion, mythology, and inserted things like highly descriptive satanism that American media just wouldn't touch. I mean sure, the idea of some guy going up against demons with high technology, or reversing the story and having a demon hero fighting bad guys with high technology, or whatever was not original when Anime was doing it, but for something like that you had to read a book or play an RPG. To see someone draw it and work it out as a cartoon with voice acting and such was simply awesome.
For example, back in like the early-mid 1990s ADV decided to release a set of videos called "Devil Hunter Yohko". The series being about a high school girl who is trained to fight demons, and of course gets involved in it very reluctantly as they start popping up everywhere. That was cool, as it was differant at the time. This was around before things like the "Buffy The Vampire Slayer" TV series (as far as I know). It remained cool after I saw variations on the same basic concept a few times, but after that it got really blah, you know "been there, seen this" type thing and what's more it progressively got worse as more and more incompetant people decided to milk the same ideas.
You do see some true originality (or unique spins on established concepts) in Anime, but like any other media it's few and far between. I think it was always like this, but it's become increasingly clear the more we see and the less selective American releases become due to the demand. I also do notice a general trend for a lot of the best stuff to be intentionally kept "Japanese Only" (for reasons which would spawn a whole differant discussion) and I think we've become a place to shovel third rate junk for a quick profit in recent years.
I mean it gets to the point where the pretty high school girl reluctantly becomes an empowered hero has been done to death. So has the feline anthromorph thing. Throw in battle armor, robots, demons, magic, cyborgs, or whatever it's all been done. Even with that stuff existing in various combinations. It simply takes more to make it satisfying, and the older, more selective stuff seems to weather the test of time better (probably why it was selected to begin with) than some of the newer releases.
Heck when Cowboy Beebop was first released it was done by Animevillage.Com (now defunct) on VHS. I notice it makes "best of" lists and it's got to be 10 or more years old in the US. That right there says a lot.
>>>----Therumancer--->
Kino's journey, the best story ever told. With the most likeable character ever imagined.
Watch it you'll love it
Watch it you'll love it
oh and Outlaw star which is one of the most original animes ever. The characters are well done; there's almost no cliche, and it gets bonus points for having no emos, and spaceships with arms. I kid thee not.
