Mangaka Claims Kill la Kill Plagiarizes His Manga

[Joccaren]

Both weak descriptions of the plot match Revolutionary Girl Utena with a "tragic" death in the leads past mixed in rather than the abused romantic interest so unless both of them have talking garments, and have nearly identical designs this is a nonsense claim. The PTSD thing being tossed in makes it sound like he wants to sew for emotional distress. I'm hoping Kill La Kill makes a turn for something outside of the Student Council bit because that's been way overdone, and revenge for the death of ones father was overdone long before even Iniago Montoya, now prepare to die.

I get the feeling its about to start moving past the student council in the next few episodes. In some ways I see it following a similar plot structure to Gurren Lagann. The student council is the obvious first enemy [Lord Genome in Gurren Lagann], who turns out to have been trying to protect everyone, but in a very misguided way, with a much larger threat looming on the horizon [Kiryuin or W/E her name is' mother would be my bet ATM, and Kamui in general, as alluded to in the more recent episodes].

Could be utterly wrong, but all bar one of the student council have been defeated now, and Kiryuin is starting to show a good side beyond being a dictator, with at the very least that chief inquisitor or W/E her actual title is appearing as quite an obvious new threat, so that's how I see it going at this point.

 

[Keiichi Morisato]

not sure what to say.. but considering how crappy the anime is, i wouldn't be worried about it plagiarizing anything

it's not crappy, you just don't like it, which is cool, but calling it crappy is a big stretch. i have seen some very shitty anime, and this show doesn't come near it.

 

[verdant monkai]

Then he should be grateful someone considers his stuff worth taking inspiration from.

If people like Kill la kill and make the connection with his manga, then chances are they will give his work a go and maybe become fans.

 

[Keiichi Morisato]

Both weak descriptions of the plot match Revolutionary Girl Utena with a "tragic" death in the leads past mixed in rather than the abused romantic interest so unless both of them have talking garments, and have nearly identical designs this is a nonsense claim. The PTSD thing being tossed in makes it sound like he wants to sew for emotional distress. I'm hoping Kill La Kill makes a turn for something outside of the Student Council bit because that's been way overdone, and revenge for the death of ones father was overdone long before even Iniago Montoya, now prepare to die.

I get the feeling its about to start moving past the student council in the next few episodes. In some ways I see it following a similar plot structure to Gurren Lagann. The student council is the obvious first enemy [Lord Genome in Gurren Lagann], who turns out to have been trying to protect everyone, but in a very misguided way, with a much larger threat looming on the horizon [Kiryuin or W/E her name is' mother would be my bet ATM, and Kamui in general, as alluded to in the more recent episodes].

Could be utterly wrong, but all bar one of the student council have been defeated now, and Kiryuin is starting to show a good side beyond being a dictator, with at the very least that chief inquisitor or W/E her actual title is appearing as quite an obvious new threat, so that's how I see it going at this point.

i wouldn't be surprised if the structure of the show follows that of Gurren Lagan, because it has the same people working on the show.

 

[FPLOON]

I'm pretty sure KLK plagiarises that about as much as Gurren Lagann plagiarises Evangelion.

Why do I now want to see Gianax suing Gianax for plagiarizing themselves?

OT: Well, now... This seems like a bit of a stretch... I mean, of course there's going to be similarities... But, then again isn't Kill La Kill a parody? To me, that's even worse to accuse them of "plagiarism"... since it's basically meant to show similarities in a more comedic way...


Then again, I'm starting to think the word "plagiarism" isn't what it's suppose to mean in this situation...

 

[An Ceannaire]

I haven't seen an anime in years. I've heard about this one though.

I'm not a huge fan of Anime, but Kill la Kill and Attack on Titan are both awesome shows regardless of genre.

 

[Scrythe]

Does anyone remember that guy who wrote a shitty sci-fi novel that tried to sue Ubisoft over claims that they stole his story and turned it into Assassin's Creed?

Because I'm certainly getting a feeling reminiscent of déjà vu right about now.

 

[Lunar Templar]

so ... he's crying foul?

after watching just the trailer?

really ....

know what :3 fuck this guy. You can't really judge anything fairly by a trailer, so he ether needs sit his ass down and behold the awesome of Kill la Kill, or shut the fuck up.

 

[neonsword13-ops]

not sure what to say.. but considering how crappy the anime is, i wouldn't be worried about it plagiarizing anything

*Shots fired*

Hoo-boy, this thread just got turned up a level. I like where this is going.

*Sits back and watches the fire*

OT: Both pieces are trope-y as fuck, but I think what Kill la Kill does differently is embrace the tropes and go all-out with them. The world design and art direction are nothing to laugh at, either. It's some of the most creative world design I've seen in an anime in a long time. Also, as an artist, the use of color in this show for the characters and the backgrounds is truly marvelous.But this isn't a conversation about the art design and coloring you idiot. There's no way anything that visually unique could be considered copyright infringement. And yes, I know he called "plagiarism" because of the story set-up, but it's still a defining factor.

Whatever it is, I can't really see this as a case of "plagiarism." Seems too silly a claim. Calling "plagiarism" based solely on tropes is definitely un-called for.

 

[Izanagi009_v1legacy]

So does that mean all the harem style anime with a single, dense beyond reality male character without an ounce of social etiquette or a single clue about the opposite sex getting mindlessly pursued by every female within his school/job/war/battle to avenge grandpa/SAVE THE WORLD FROM EVIL WITH FRIENDSHIP AND/OR DETERMINAAAAATION!!!!11...

Lost myself for a second. Point is anime isn't really original anyway, they might have taken some ideas from his work or something else similar but it's not flat out plagiarism.

I haven't seen or looked into KlK at all. I'm rolling through my anime backlog and only left it to watch Infinite Stratos 2(AKA International wife wars with terrible soft sci-fi that suffers extremely from the example of regurgitated ideas found in my first paragraph.)
However it has best girl in it, so I watch anyway.

I was just going to mention Infinite Stratos given your avatar but you beat me to it (WHY DO PEOPLE LIKE IT, WHY DID I WATCH IT, it's generic, cliche, and the times I laugh are outweighed by the amount of times I smack my head at how stupid it is or how predictable it gets. the only good thing is that the exosuit designs are pretty good if a bit copied from gundam designs.)

back to the whole plagiarism allegation, given the lack of actual research, overreaction and the fact that his partner is saying otherwise, the mangaka is just trying to hop on and get popularity by being attached to one of the big anime of the year

P.S. WATCH KILL LA KILL, if you love over the top crazy action combined with surprisingly good characters and drama with a bit of a brain behind the imagery and the like, watch it

Edit: i know that if i say this that any credibility as an advocate against cheap generic anime and for anime as an art from will be destroyed but Houki and Char are kind of tied in my mind for "best girl"

 

[Izanagi009_v1legacy]

Both weak descriptions of the plot match Revolutionary Girl Utena with a "tragic" death in the leads past mixed in rather than the abused romantic interest so unless both of them have talking garments, and have nearly identical designs this is a nonsense claim. The PTSD thing being tossed in makes it sound like he wants to sew for emotional distress. I'm hoping Kill La Kill makes a turn for something outside of the Student Council bit because that's been way overdone, and revenge for the death of ones father was overdone long before even Iniago Montoya, now prepare to die.

i think that it will, judging from the story so far, the student council president isn't the real antagonist, and the she is doing everything the way she is, is so that she can usurp her parents company and control over the nations. i think at some point she and the protagonist will join forces and battle it out against her families corporation. this is sorta like with Gurren Lagan in how the antagonist for the first half of the series wasn't actually the antagonist, but another entity was that you don't find out about till about half way into the second act (episode 15-17).

I have a feeling that after Ragyo is done for, Kiryuin and Ryuko will get back to fighting each other because they really have completely different personalities and outlooks on the world. Regardless, this whole plagiarism allegation is completely stupid and just present to get some hype for his own manga

 

[Azkar Almsivi]

I was just going to mention Infinite Stratos given your avatar but you beat me to it (WHY DO PEOPLE LIKE IT, WHY DID I WATCH IT, it's generic, cliche, and the times I laugh are outweighed by the amount of times I smack my head at how stupid it is or how predictable it gets. the only good thing is that the exosuit designs are pretty good if a bit copied from gundam designs.)

back to the whole plagiarism allegation, given the lack of actual research, overreaction and the fact that his partner is saying otherwise, the mangaka is just trying to hop on and get popularity by being attached to one of the big anime of the year

P.S. WATCH KILL LA KILL, if you love over the top crazy action combined with surprisingly good characters and drama with a bit of a brain behind the imagery and the like, watch it

Edit: i know that if i say this that any credibility as an advocate against cheap generic anime and for anime as an art from will be destroyed but Houki and Char are kind of tied in my mind for "best girl"

IS2 exists for waifu wars. As for KlK I think I'll get around to it, I'm finishing Azumanga Daioh ATM. All aboard the late train.

Spoiler

When a beam type weapon destroys multiple IS frames with a single shot and then gets a direct hit on a single frame with next to no/no shields left and all it does is make the pilot spit out a lot of saliva... well.

One can only handle so much plot armor.

It's good that you recognize the glory of France... wait, what? Tied with Houki?

 

[Storm Dragon]

The sheer amount of anime's that seem to be based around "Highschool club is going to be closed unless students do X" would suggest that originality isn't exactly it's strong point. Like the Triple A gaming market and Hollywood, if a concept is popular, it will be bled to death.

The fact that one of the other people working on it doesn't see the connection suggests the claims are somewhat tenuous.

Umm... that's not what Kill la Kill is about.

 

[Quiet Stranger]

My girlfriend actually has PTSD and after reading his comments, now I'm pissed off. What an ignorant silly butt to claim he has feelings similar to PTSD after watching a trailer.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

I have not seen that anime or even heard of that manga, but assuming his claim is legit, which I doubt, I could understand him being reasonably upset, but PTSD??? Seriously?? Does he even know what PTSD is?

 

[Amir Kondori]

What a bunch of bullshit. If the art is original and the writing is original then it doesn't matter if it tells a similar story to your work. It isn't any kind of infringement and you need to shutup with the nonsense.

 

[likalaruku]

I've been reading manga since the 90s. I can't even beging to tell you how many times I've felt like I've already read something before. It's all large collections of tropes that imitate eachother. For example:

*Dragonball Z + Yu Yu Hakusho = Hunter x Hunter.
*Hunter x Hunter + .hack// + Diabolo = GetBackers.
*Hunter x Hunter + food porn = Toriko.
*Slayers + gender swap = Gokudo & Orphan Revenge.
*Slayers + ecchi = Dragon Half.
*Petshop of Horrors + Majin Tantei Nougami Neuro = Black Butler.
*Legal Drug - CLAMP + guns & smoking = Wild Adapter.
*Marmalade Boy + Chou Gals = Peach Girl.
*Fist of the North Star + Devilman = Zero Apocalypse.
*Gunsmith Cats + outer space = Dirty Pair & Project A-Ko Battle Versus.
*Cutie Honey + violence = Devilman Woman.
*Yu-Gi-Oh + Pretear = Card Captor Sakura.
*DNA 2 - ecchi + homoerotic tension = DNAngel.
*Azumanga Daioh + all boy's school = Sukigake Cramortie High.
*Sukigake Cramortie High + Great Teacher Onizuka - Onizuka = Gukosen.
*Kino no Tabi + gender swap = King of Bandit Jing (moreso in the anime version).

 

[Legion]

The sheer amount of anime's that seem to be based around "Highschool club is going to be closed unless students do X" would suggest that originality isn't exactly it's strong point. Like the Triple A gaming market and Hollywood, if a concept is popular, it will be bled to death.

The fact that one of the other people working on it doesn't see the connection suggests the claims are somewhat tenuous.

Umm... that's not what Kill la Kill is about.

I am aware. I am a fan of the show.

I was saying that like most other forms of media, anime is not exempt from people taking similar concepts and using them over and over again. The mention of Highshcool club's was purely an example of a common theme used repeatedly in anime. My point being that simply having a similar concept such as that, is not enough to claim plagiarism. If it were then there are a lot of anime's that would be accused of it, just like many films and games.