Marijuana decriminalization bill passes the house.

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It be hilarious if this passed and not the stimulus bill.
This is the stimulus bill. Now everyone that's out of work can start their own dispensary!

I mean...I'm joking, but I'm also from LA and can't walk more than 2 blocks without bumping into a new weed shop opening up so yay small businesses?
 

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Every time this subject comes up, I ask myself if I'd actually pick the habit back up. The main reason I quit smoking pot back in my 20s, was mainly because I didn't like the people I had to associate with to GET the drugs. PSA: Pot isn't a gateway drug because you get bored using it and decide to go for harder stuff. No it's because the people you had to get it from, since they were dealing illegal product, would try and upsell you on their other merchandise, because you know, capitalism.

I do remember finding my level of clarity vastly improved though, once I'd been off pot for a few weeks, instead of smoking it every day. Yeah, I just don't know, I like sobriety at this point, but if it was legal, it might be fun to pick it back up. *shrugs*
 

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House only allowed the vote because they need a news cycle win after Democrats' dogshit performance in the election, as something to jingle the car keys in the American people's face before this equally dogshit stimulus package hit the press, and because it'll never, ever get past the Senate. If it stood a snowball's chance at passing the Senate and getting signed into law, the bill never would have made it out of subcommittee.
 

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I mean...I'm joking, but I'm also from LA and can't walk more than 2 blocks without bumping into a new weed shop opening up so yay small businesses?
It's a high-value crop with negligible start-up costs (depending on what sort of licences you need I suppose), and you can be selling within months of planting. And I guess in California you just grow outdoors (that is, you don't have the power overhead of indoor growers)? Hell, I'd do it just for side income on top of my actual job, it's not like you need to sit there and watch it grow.
 

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I see weed the same way I see coffee. Maybe not directly terrible for your health, but something I just personally don't need to live my life.

I actually have no idea if marijuana is legal in my country... in the dorms and condos I've lived in for college, you wouldn't think weed was illegal with how often its smell was wafting through the air.
 

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Hell, I'd do it just for side income on top of my actual job, it's not like you need to sit there and watch it grow.
Depending on the strain...you kinda do. At least, in terms of regulating temperature, insolation, testing pH and soil nutrient balance, and safeguarding against disease, parasites, and insects. Remember, a lot of these high-yield, high-concentration strains that are popular today have been kept as far from the ravages of natural selection as humanly possible for decades' worth of generations, meaning while their yields are consistent and highly marketable, they ain't robust.

Addendum: funny story, in high school one of the guys in FFA designed a modular, portable, collapsible single-piece hydroponics unit that was vertical farming-ready, and built a working prototype for my high school's agriscience fair. Each unit had its own filtration, pump, timer, and grow light operating off a single power supply that could be daisy chained to other units, and isolated/quarantined at the pull of a lever in case of outbreak. Damn thing was built entirely out of materials you could buy at any local Wal-Mart or hardware store, and he somehow figured out how to make the thing with a stupidly-low price-per-unit, like less than thirty bucks each in mid-'90s dollars.

It was absolute fuckin' genius, he could have patented the thing and probably won a Nobel prize marketing it to starving third-world countries or some shit. Instead, he built a bunch of his hydroponic Legos at home and started growing weed. Surprise of surprises, he got busted for possession of a lot of fuckin' weed not even six months later because the idiot was selling at school and on field trips which made him easy to track down and catch. When he got busted was hands down one of the absolute funniest things I'd ever seen in high school, it was like some Heisenberg shit.
 
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Remember, a lot of these high-yield, high-concentration strains that are popular today
I read something about this somewhere -- apparently THC levels in the old days when all the iconic weed films like Dazed and Confused are set were something like 1% or 2% vs today's 13-20%. Like, would you notice 1%?
 

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I read something about this somewhere -- apparently THC levels in the old days when all the iconic weed films like Dazed and Confused are set were something like 1% or 2% vs today's 13-20%. Like, would you notice 1%?
Yes, you did notice.

Several factors apply. Firstly, cannabis is borderline impossible to OD on, so it can be taken wildly in excess of the amount needed to make you high safely - although if you're not used to it, you may well not enjoy the experience of a high dose. Secondly, tolerance: the more you take, the faster and greater tolerance will be. Thirdly, people probably simply used (on average) more product than they do nowadays: something being more potent means people probably just take less. People may not smoke huge reefers anymore in one go, or they just cut the marijuana with more tobacco.
 

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People may not smoke huge reefers anymore in one go, or they just cut the marijuana with more tobacco.
I did read that that's more of a UK thing generally (that is, that cutting it with tobacco isn't as common in the States). Personally can't stand the smell of smoking tobacco (quite like the smell of unsmoked tobacco).
 

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Is there much support among Republicans for the bill? Cuz its still gotta go through the Senate.
Pretty sure the whole point of passing this right now is to get Georgians that support legalizing pot out to vote Democrat in the Senate runoff election. Because if Dems win both seats they have a majority. After that election, the Senate will do whatever and the House will suddenly not care about it any more.

The main reason I quit smoking pot back in my 20s, was mainly because I didn't like the people I had to associate with to GET the drugs.
My wife recently started smoking to see if it would help with her pain (yay for painful chronic medical conditions!), she buys from an old friend who works in healthcare, who presumably buys from less savory people since she definitely doesn't have room to grow herself. It's honestly kind of amazing how well it works, she only has to smoke a tiny amount to get relief and it works better than anything else has since Vioxx went off the market (she said she cried when that happened - apparently it's the only drug that made her totally pain free for any length of time).
 
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My wife recently started smoking to see if it would help with her pain (yay for painful chronic medical conditions!), she buys from an old friend who works in healthcare, who presumably buys from less savory people since she definitely doesn't have room to grow herself. It's honestly kind of amazing how well it works, she only has to smoke a tiny amount to get relief and it works better than anything else has since Vioxx went off the market (she said she cried when that happened - apparently it's the only drug that made her totally pain free for any length of time).
I understand you get a more long-lasting effect from edibles (though they take longer to kick in too), and something about the preparation process for edibles amplifies the effect so the medication goes much further. Heard it can be hard to predict the dose you're going to get though. But also, mmm, cake.
 

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I understand you get a more long-lasting effect from edibles (though they take longer to kick in too), and something about the preparation process for edibles amplifies the effect so the medication goes much further. Heard it can be hard to predict the dose you're going to get though. But also, mmm, cake.
Pretty sure the reason she hasn't tried edibles yet is because she's also trying to lose weight, and doesn't need another excuse to start baking. She makes fantastic but extremely unhealthy cinnamon rolls, last time she went on a baking spree we went through 11 pounds of butter, two gallons of heavy cream and 15 pounds of flour in one day.
 

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Pretty sure the reason she hasn't tried edibles yet is because she's also trying to lose weight, and doesn't need another excuse to start baking. She makes fantastic but extremely unhealthy cinnamon rolls, last time she went on a baking spree we went through 11 pounds of butter, two gallons of heavy cream and 15 pounds of flour in one day.
As I understand it, you can just convert it to butter and chuck it on some toast or something (but the taste is ... not good, so strongly flavoured cakes/biscuits are popular).
 

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Pretty sure the reason she hasn't tried edibles yet is because she's also trying to lose weight, and doesn't need another excuse to start baking. She makes fantastic but extremely unhealthy cinnamon rolls, last time she went on a baking spree we went through 11 pounds of butter, two gallons of heavy cream and 15 pounds of flour in one day.
Mmmm. Cinnamon rolls.
 

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Needs to happen over here sooner rather than later. In fact, considering the upcoming flustercluck of brexit and coronavirus aided by hyper-austerity, it would make more sense to legalize the whole fucking lot of drugs and rake in the extra tax.
 

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Needs to happen over here sooner rather than later. In fact, considering the upcoming flustercluck of brexit and coronavirus aided by hyper-austerity, it would make more sense to legalize the whole fucking lot of drugs and rake in the extra tax.
Oh, and the government gets to look progressive and sorta useful for once. Not a bad idea.
 
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