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If the school doesn't spar, they're absolutely without worth. No exceptions. And when I say spar, I don't mean touching for points. If they are a throwing style, they need to be throwing each other non-compliantly. If they are a wrestling style, they need to be on the ground trying to choke or lock one another. If they are strikers, they need to be hitting one another hard. There should be bruises and/or blood every night from somebody.
The good news is that's possible all over the place. Wrestling, Boxing, Savate, Muay Thai, knockdown karate, San Da, San Shou, Brazilian (but not Japanese) Jujutsu, and Sambo to name just a few consistently produce good fighters through these methods.
Go to a martial arts forum and you'll get better answers. I recommend bullshido.net since its mission is exposing fraud and nonsense in martial arts.
The good news is that's possible all over the place. Wrestling, Boxing, Savate, Muay Thai, knockdown karate, San Da, San Shou, Brazilian (but not Japanese) Jujutsu, and Sambo to name just a few consistently produce good fighters through these methods.
Go to a martial arts forum and you'll get better answers. I recommend bullshido.net since its mission is exposing fraud and nonsense in martial arts.
I'm sort of divided. I would love to learn Ninjutsu to become all agile and ninja-like and still be able to kick ass, but I would also like to learn Krav-maga; straight forward, no bullshit.
Well, all martial arts have aspects that make them cool, and I can never make up my mind about anything. I did Jiu Jitsu for a few years. The reason I chose that was because I wanted to learn how to throw an opponent.
Well, all martial arts have aspects that make them cool, and I can never make up my mind about anything. I did Jiu Jitsu for a few years. The reason I chose that was because I wanted to learn how to throw an opponent.
Peronsally.
I have been doing Hapkido for 12 years.
And you don't need anything else besides that.
But, me being over estatic. I'm actually doing 8 martial arts.
And I'm a black belt in 4. Heh.
I have been doing Hapkido for 12 years.
And you don't need anything else besides that.
But, me being over estatic. I'm actually doing 8 martial arts.
And I'm a black belt in 4. Heh.
if you want fit, i think any martial art will do, although some will be more painful than others.
In terms of self defense, from what my black belt, 8 years of experience in Taekwondo taught me is that martial arts like TKD and kung fu rely on taking out your opponent with fast kicks and counter attacks. to do this however you have to take into account your body type and how agile you are as well as the length of your limbs.
Aikido, like ppl above me have said, relies on using the opponents momentum against him.
muay tai is like kick boxing, but better... and more painful. More offense less defense.
krav maga is mainly for disarming, and blocking, i would say its your best bet if self defense is your main objective.
judo has lots of grapples and can be quite fun, but a bit useless in a real fight imo.
But in the end it also depends on your class and how much dedication you put on it. And all that theory crap, it actually has a purpose.
In terms of self defense, from what my black belt, 8 years of experience in Taekwondo taught me is that martial arts like TKD and kung fu rely on taking out your opponent with fast kicks and counter attacks. to do this however you have to take into account your body type and how agile you are as well as the length of your limbs.
Aikido, like ppl above me have said, relies on using the opponents momentum against him.
muay tai is like kick boxing, but better... and more painful. More offense less defense.
krav maga is mainly for disarming, and blocking, i would say its your best bet if self defense is your main objective.
judo has lots of grapples and can be quite fun, but a bit useless in a real fight imo.
But in the end it also depends on your class and how much dedication you put on it. And all that theory crap, it actually has a purpose.
If it's mostly for exercise the style you choose is mostly irrelevant, so long as you train to an adequate level. It doesn't mean having to throw up after a class but at least be tired and sore. I used to do Karate and I found that quite fun to do and it kept me fit.
No. There is absolutely no realm of human performance that being stronger makes you worse at. Oh, I agree that being too BULKY might be a hindrance in some things (although most of us don't have the genetics, diet, or training time to get that big), but being stronger is bar-none the best possible thing to be when fighting, working, you-name-it.Audio said:
Might you be able to come up with another reason that people practicing a martial art with someone who is stronger than they are would tell him that his strength is actually a disadvantage and he should probably seek to diminish it or at least cease cultivating it? Nasty thought, isn't it?
Just a few points to help you out:
To learn how to ride a bike, you have to get on and ride. In order to learn how to fight, you have to fight. Full contact is a must for self defense purposes mostly because if it's really self defense, you're gonna get hit a few times first.
You'll get fitness training out of anything really. Some of the best I've done is probably boxing and Judo. If you need a warm-up for your warm-up, that's a good place to start.
As to the OP's question, I study Judo and Jiujitsu currently and have done Kyokushin Karate and greco-roman wrestling for some time before that and dabbled in a bunch of other stuff. I've had to defend myself once and another person once. Both were unpleasant experiences and both were finished with some pretty clumsy judo. Most of the time I talk my way out of fights. Works pretty well.
To learn how to ride a bike, you have to get on and ride. In order to learn how to fight, you have to fight. Full contact is a must for self defense purposes mostly because if it's really self defense, you're gonna get hit a few times first.
You'll get fitness training out of anything really. Some of the best I've done is probably boxing and Judo. If you need a warm-up for your warm-up, that's a good place to start.
As to the OP's question, I study Judo and Jiujitsu currently and have done Kyokushin Karate and greco-roman wrestling for some time before that and dabbled in a bunch of other stuff. I've had to defend myself once and another person once. Both were unpleasant experiences and both were finished with some pretty clumsy judo. Most of the time I talk my way out of fights. Works pretty well.
I agree with the first parts of this but not with the "useless in self-defense" part. Yes, it's more of a challenge to defend yourself if you've only been practicing for a year or two. But after that, it can definitely be used for self defense.J03bot said:
Also I was just wondering, I've noticed that Capoeira gets a lot of hate as far as martial arts go. From what I've heard it's because "that one kick where you're on your hand and you kick your leg over your head is fucking useless, I would just kick your hand and make you fall".
First off, the kick is called an Au Batido, and it looks like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVawFAeK9Co&feature=related
Now that you know what the kick looks like, yes, the person preforming the kick is vulnerable to a sweep at their hand. HOWEVER, the people who hate on Capoeira so much act as if this is the ONLY kick in Capoeira. Yes, it's one of the most recognizable kicks, but it is only one kick. There are many many more that can be used. The Au Batido is a kick only used when the timing is right, say... when your opponent has been knocked down and is attempting to stand back up, you hit them with an Au Batido where your foot connects with their neck just below the ear and BAM, they're out.
So yes, I believe Capoeira can be used in self defense... (and now lets hear all of the people I was talking about troll me about how useless it is.. because they know so much about it..)
You should learn to do '!!!!!!!' It's what I call the stuff bruce lee does because it's just so badass that there are no words suitable to describe it, only exclamation marks.
All right, I used to play Angola and Regional. I never pretended I was doing anything other than dancing. I don't know many players who do. The problem is Capoeira is built entirely upon low-percentage techniques. Yeah, if EVERYTHING goes just right, of course you're dealing with a lot of momentum there and you could potentially do a lot of damage.Cyberius said:
But look at what you're missing: No clinch. No punch defense. No punches, really. No conditioning of striking surfaces.
Yes, we've all seen the guy in MMA who knocked somebody out with meia lua de compasso. That proves it really. It was so unique, such a freak occurrence, that everybody has seen that ONE video. If it were easy to do, it would have happened so often we'd just say, "Meh, another capoeirista winning a fight..."
The ginga isn't fighting footwork and most of the kicks aren't fighting stuff. Enjoy that you do an awesome dance style and don't try to fantasize, amigo.
Axe, camara.
For 'classical style' Bujinkan Ninjutsu - look HERE [http://www.ninjutsu.com/dojos-links_usa.shtml] for dojos.Arkhangelsk said:
For 'modern style' To Shin Do Ninjutsu - look HERE [http://www.skhquest.com/train-with-us/schools/] for dojos.
Ninjutsu focuses more on how the mind affects the body, and how to use your mind to gain victory. It's a tactical approach to kicking ass - strength is certainly helpful, but not required for a practiced student of either style.
Since you seem to be looking more for fitness and strength, something more like Tae Kwon Do, Muay Thai, or boxing might be a better option for you.
a few years on, still kinda aches in the morningLord Monocle Von Banworthy said:
Reason I like it for self defense is that you learn to take a hit like crazy.
MMA is the coolest mainly because almost all other styles are done in it. I would try that if I would find the time and money. Boxing and kickboxing is cool just don't fight against somebody who doesn't have any feeling in his body any more. Karate is just boring and very autocratic.
If self defense is the main point you might wanna look into Krav Maga.
If self defense is the main point you might wanna look into Krav Maga.
Most of those things you listed are not martial arts. There are martial arts and sports martial arts, the later being used for competition.
Judo, Jujitsu, Taekwondo, Kickboxing & MMA are all for sport.
There are many traditional martial arts styles to pick from various countries. First determine if you want to compete or not. Then go from there.
Any of my potential students who wish to compete get turned away at the door. It's nothing against them, it's just my personal preference.
Judo, Jujitsu, Taekwondo, Kickboxing & MMA are all for sport.
There are many traditional martial arts styles to pick from various countries. First determine if you want to compete or not. Then go from there.
Any of my potential students who wish to compete get turned away at the door. It's nothing against them, it's just my personal preference.