Mass Effect 3 being 'tweaked' for a larger market - EA.
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I think, out of all posts, this pretty much summarises exactly what they WILL do.ninja51 said:
I think, they're gonna casualize it. More minigames and online content to appeal to the housewifes and single mothers. Somekind of racing add-on and puzzle solving element is going to be included and farming. I guess, ME3 will be a pirated game, until otherwise proven.
There's a very good saying here that goes along the line of "if it ain't your coat, don't put it on"(rough translation). I specifically added that last part exactly because of that. Also, no, I'm not outraged, I'm simply annoyed by the amount of whining and nerd-rage going on. I get that people are worried, I'm worried somewhat as well, since I really liked ME1-2, but going around saying "THERE WILL BE BLOOD, EA, KEELHAUL BIOWARE" is beyond ridiculous and only serve to prove gamers are about as mature as a potato.The_root_of_all_evil said:
Yes, I see what you mean. DAII, for me, wasn't a disappointing game, but a disappointing sequel. I'd rather that didn't happen to ME3, but a lot of posters here just go way over the line about it and it's obvious they're just going by the sudden HULKSMASH mentality that tends to develop whenever certain 'evil' words appear.Ishiro32 said:
Also, about the trolls, yes, I agree that they're the vocal minority, but consider this: those who DO like the game, don't really feel the need to state it every 3 seconds, while those who hate a game go around parading like it was New Year's Eve. Even if a developer has the best intentions, by the time they hear of the 9001th troll, they'll just go 'screw it, we just don't care anymore' and will pretty much refuse to put effort into it. Seriously, I'm actually curious about this, when was the last time mass whining helped a game series significantly?
mass effect was awful from the beginning so yeah wtv. generic cover shooter in space. how did games come to this. lets throw this ( albeit sometimes successful ) mishmash of sci fi universes and lets see where this goes. standards for games were never very high. but at least we had system shock.
I could respond by "The customer is always right", but I'll travel with your analogy at the moment.Zay-el said:
If someone's taking my coat and changing it, I reserve the right to state that I don't want it changing, without being told that I can always get a new one. Especially if the coat I originally had was made of far better material.
EA (and others) have shown, time and time again, that by taking something to the mass-market that they are cutting parts that could be controversial, while adding elements that actively disappoint the people who made it a successful franchise.
Can you give me some examples of games that were made more palatable for the mass-market that didn't result in them being less fulfilling? Because there's an awful lot of franchises that have been ruined by caving into to mass market appeal.
I thought ME2 already did that and it worked (for the most part). ME was barely an RPG, ME2 was a straight up shooter (not necessarily a bad thing), how much more simple can you make Mass Effect? I have a bad feeling.JeanLuc761 said:
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Keep that in mind, here. EA when it comes down to it is really just looking to get more interest in their company and showing the massive sales in both Mass Effect 2 and the projected success of the tweaks in Mass Effect 3 that are expected to make the game even better than it was previously.
I worked a lot of private catering jobs during my first few years at Uni- heard A LOT of conference speeches, especially the headlining addresses, meetings and conferences like this are to invigorate "The Money" to keep supporting them and to have confidence in their continued support/investment. Show them how awesome their future endeavors are going to be, pump them up. The people at this conference are less than likely to be gamers as you and I know as gamers. They just need assurance that EA is going to have a good year and "you're going to be very happy that you chose to invest in us- now would you consider investing more?" In the end, I don't think this would be considered "gamer news" but certainly news for the industry
Keep that in mind, here. EA when it comes down to it is really just looking to get more interest in their company and showing the massive sales in both Mass Effect 2 and the projected success of the tweaks in Mass Effect 3 that are expected to make the game even better than it was previously.
I worked a lot of private catering jobs during my first few years at Uni- heard A LOT of conference speeches, especially the headlining addresses, meetings and conferences like this are to invigorate "The Money" to keep supporting them and to have confidence in their continued support/investment. Show them how awesome their future endeavors are going to be, pump them up. The people at this conference are less than likely to be gamers as you and I know as gamers. They just need assurance that EA is going to have a good year and "you're going to be very happy that you chose to invest in us- now would you consider investing more?" In the end, I don't think this would be considered "gamer news" but certainly news for the industry
Actually, that does make a RPG if properly implemented. Just look at the two schools in video games: WRPGs and JRPGs.hazabaza1 said:
JRPGs generally put more emphasis on leveling, looting, and other things like that.
WRPGs generally put more emphasis on freedom in the game world while splicing in elements like leveling.
Both are RPGs.
Yeah, but there's generally elements other than just shooting in RPGs. In both the Mass Effect game and Persona 3 as a JRPG example (thanks for recommending that, by the way, it's awesome) there's things to do other than just advancing through the plot and killing stuff.RedEyesBlackGamer said:
So yeah, I think that levelling can make an RPG, but doesn't necessarily create one.
The problem I've found is that so much of the gaming community is split between what constitutes a genuine RPG 'experience'. I myself have a definition of RPG which is incongruous with that of many others, based upon the quality of the experience from a narrative standpoint, and how the gameplay complements the overall game design.RedEyesBlackGamer said:
I hold a similar opinion i generally prefer my Rpg's to have a engrossing storyline/plot I also see hazabaza1's opinion that leveling does not make an rpg and i agree it's just that i was stating that to me ME2 was more like gears of war with a re-skin.
heres to hopeing ME3 doesnt bomb completely if all else fails at least i can reminisce about the good times in Mass Effect (elevator conversations, Legions idle anims) while i play Skyrim or GW2
heres to hopeing ME3 doesnt bomb completely if all else fails at least i can reminisce about the good times in Mass Effect (elevator conversations, Legions idle anims) while i play Skyrim or GW2