Mass Effect 3 Beta Leak

[drosalion]

I'm wondering if they'll add a "play the damned game as its intended" mode.

Ya know, for people who actually WANT to manage every minute detail.

Thats what RPG mode is for, please read some of the comments or pay some attention to the source next time

I have, and RPG Mode still seems like it will limit your options in both conversations and action sequences.

You havent been reading very well then... RPG mode is how mass effect is intended to be played, you get the full story, full action and everything else. Nothing has changed.

If you want to though, you can play the mode without dialogue choices (focusin on action), or the mode without combat (focusing on story).

It actually makes me mad that people are mad about these game mode options lol

 

[Zhukov]

I'm not getting the hate over the game modes. Just choose 'RPG mode' and then look down your incredibly long nose at anyone who dares to play the game differently, and you're all set.

In other news, Mass Effect 1 and Dragon Age: Origins were corporate sell-out CoD-clones because they had casual/easy difficulty settings, right?

but what if we want a game with a good story, good combat, AND good rpg elements?

Then we read the game mode descriptions like intelligent people and notice that 'RPG mode' says the following: "RPG Mode: For those who want to explore both realms of story and combat. RPG mode will set manually-selectable replies in conversation and a normal combat difficulty."

In other words, 'RPG mode' is normal Mass Effect. Combat, dialogue options and stat management.

 

[Bara_no_Hime]

I'm assuming the three SP modes are for testing purposes only, would be surprised if they made it to release.

This.

That is clearly a test mode - ie, so the story people can check their code without having to play, the combat people can check their code without having to talk, and the stat people can check their code without having to do either one.

Still, it's an interesting idea. Think about how that would affect replay value - not only could you make different choices, you could literally play it as three entirely different games. ^^;;

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

I'm not getting the hate over the game modes. Just choose 'RPG mode' and then look down your incredibly long nose at anyone who dares to play the game differently, and you're all set.

In other news, Mass Effect 1 and Dragon Age: Origins were corporate sell-out CoD-clones because they had casual/easy difficulty settings, right?

but what if we want a game with a good story, good combat, AND good rpg elements?

Then we read the game mode descriptions like intelligent people and notice that 'RPG mode' says the following: "RPG Mode: For those who want to explore both realms of story and combat. RPG mode will set manually-selectable replies in conversation and a normal combat difficulty."

In other words, 'RPG mode' is normal Mass Effect. Combat, dialogue options and stat management.

i swear are some people fucked in the head on a daily basis?

it takes maybe 5 brain cells to figure out that rpg mode = best of both worlds, a.k.a. how mass effect 1 and 2 both played, the action mode is for people who don't want the dialogue and cutscenes, and vise versa for story mode.

honestly i think it is kind of genius, it satisfies just about everyone with very very simple changes, just turn off the dialogue for one and turn off the combat for another, simple coding really.

i don't get why people would be MAD at this..it takes away NOTHING from the game, yet allows everyone to play it how they want to..

haters gonna hate i suppose.

 

[Disturbed-Hell]

Is that... Miranda?

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Also, what the hell is wrong with James Vega? He looks like a human-krogan hybrid for crying out loud!

 

[hazabaza1]

Is that... Miranda?

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That's

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Ashely. Bioware thought they'd Miranda/sexy her up.
They failed.

 

[theonecookie]

Whats this more nonsensical incoherent hate from bioware fans I swear half of them are trolls or fucked in the head nothing any one does will ever please them to the point where they'll make shit up like now can any off you read I do wonder

seriously This is a fan base where a good portion of it just wants to play spreadsheets and the other half want a film/dating sim its kinda messed up to be honest cant you just shut the hell up and enjoy the game or you know not play it if its that offensive to your tastes its just a game not politics

To any normal people who just enjoy or dislike the game you are immune to this

Also game looks great

 

[ThePuzzldPirate]

The video game industry has more leaks than Rapture nowadays!

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I'm hilariously unfunny.

You know what, that was fucking awesome, I was in a rage not a second ago over this stupidity but you made me laugh, thank you.

 

[deathbydeath]

I'm not getting the hate over the game modes. Just choose 'RPG mode' and then look down your incredibly long nose at anyone who dares to play the game differently, and you're all set.

In other news, Mass Effect 1 and Dragon Age: Origins were corporate sell-out CoD-clones because they had casual/easy difficulty settings, right?

but what if we want a game with a good story, good combat, AND good rpg elements?

Then we read the game mode descriptions like intelligent people and notice that 'RPG mode' says the following: "RPG Mode: For those who want to explore both realms of story and combat. RPG mode will set manually-selectable replies in conversation and a normal combat difficulty."

In other words, 'RPG mode' is normal Mass Effect. Combat, dialogue options and stat management.

i apologize for not being able to access the menu and read each of the description because i don't own an xbox.

 

[deathbydeath]

i'm not judging by the cover, i'm judging based on past trends, what the devs say, and logic.

Logic? Really? Logic tells you that ME3 is going to be a shit game? Dude, I don't know what kind of logic you run on but clearly your definition of logic isn't the same as that of the rest of us. You may as well say that logic says that the PS3 is the best console of all time, or some shit like that.

they're bringing even more......stupid science to the table.

Oh sure. In the future we're allowed diverse alien races, Mass Effect technology, and Machine Gods but we're not allowed to have an experimental project to bring the main character back from the dead. Fooey!

well, me1 was a great game that blended action combat with dnd, and took a more rpg route than jade empire (which was also good). me2, on the other hand, pretty much rewrote the gameplay. there were practically no rpg bits compared to the last one, and what there was is simply pathetic. stalker has better rpg elements than me2, for god's sake. based on the previous trend, and what the devs have been saying, it looks like me3 will pretty much be me2. now to the logic part: me1 sold fairly well, but it wasn't really a blockbuster (quite the shame). me2, on the other hand, was a massive hit, was universally praised by pretty much every professional game journalist, and won quite a few awards (including best writing lol). seeing as this is a business, which success will bioware/ea try to recreate? bam, logic.

about the stupid science, there's something called "suspension of disbelief". this means that the reader/watcher/player can pass over something implausible if there is a justification for it (that's the definition off the top of my head, so don't judge me).

massive robots with a god complex: while there's no origin/explanation, they're supposed to be shrouded in mystery, so it's understandable that the protagonist/player doesn't know much about them, but bioware could easily explain that in me3. besides, if we're capable of robots and ais now, why not in the future?

diverse alien races: take how we got here, and apply it to them.
gravity
Mass effect technology: take element zero, and apply a electric current to it, and it generates a field that alter's any object's mass. while it could be worded a little better (like using gravity instead of mass), it's pretty much a glorified magnet that changes. implausible, but there's enough sensible science jargon thrown around to make it seem like a magnet, which makes sense to us.

lazarus project: absolutely nothing at all. you're expecting me to believe that a), cerberus could recover shepard's body after he went through re-entry? b), all we see is a body injected with gatorade, and we hear that cerberus could've bought an army with the money used to resurrect shepard. that's it.

give me some more plausable information, and i'll be more than willing to shed my disbelief, but bioware failed on their part of the bargain, so don't expect me to hold up mine.

sorry for the text wall, i'll try to be brief next time.

 

[JamesStone]

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so if a person dislikes sonething strongly and puts it in a video, they rip off yahtzee?
smudboy didn't really bash me2, he just took it apart and analyzed the part in an admittedly really long video series


and what i meant by dragging in smudboy's videos into this was that it looked like bioware is dragging the Lazarus project into me3, and that shows that they didn't learn from their mistakes, which were pointed out by smudboy.

and me3 will have origin. BOOOOOO![/quote]

No, someone can be classified as an Yatzhee wannabe when they analyse every single little thing that it´s bad about a game, but fails to understand that Yathzee does it for the comic effect, and he eventually says, most of the time, that the game is actually pretty good (Best examples: Arkham Asylum, Bioshock and Red dead Redemption), ´cause he normally only overreacts when reviewing good games, so they end up needlessly bashing at a game, not admitting is qualities, calling the game shit, and moving on. Oh and generally being a dickhead to everyone that disagrees. Smudboy in many, many words.
Oh, I forgot to add that his arguments are pretty flawed, many are extremely retarded, like that one about LOTSB, what takes 1 minute to tell, he tells in 5, and he is overall a really stupid person.
That´s why he´s an Yathzee wannabe and, in the end, a gigantic douchebag and a troll.

And saying Bioware didn´t learn from their mistakes without seeing the actual product? That´s the fastest way to lose credibility. Even if you´re proven right, the action matters, not the result.

 

[Phlakes]

Hey, everyone who doesn't like the mode options. You know what you have to do? Just don't fucking play those options. All they do is cut out things for people that don't want them and won't affect you in any way at all ever.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

So you can just switch the combat off all together and watch it like a movie?!? Am I understanding that right?

I hope they have put that you have to finish the game first before you can do that...otherwise it's kind of lame.

 

[JamesStone]

Don't want to jump right into the conversation, but who is smudboy? Seriously, who the fuck is he? And why must Bioware listen to his arguments? And were can I watch his review?

No worries. Smudboy is a guy who´s on youtube telling everyone how Mass Effect 2 sucked, making stupid points about it, and trolling everyone that disagrees with him. Go look for some of his stuff, and you´ll see what I mean.

WARNING: It´s 60 full-of-shit minutes divided in 6 parts, not counting with the DLC´s videos adn the responses to people that disagree with him.

 

[razerdoh]

*GASP* HELMET HIDE OPTION! Nice!

 

[Volothos]

Here are two things I've said about Action Mode on a different thread:

Firstly, just because it's in the game, and it's the top option so "OMG BIOWARE WANTS US TO PLAY THE DUMBED DOWN VERSION BECAUSE IT'S THE TOP OPTION!!!" No. Stop. You should already have learned not to just press A on the top option from playing the first few Mass Effects. You want to play the 'proper' game? Go ahead and play the 'proper' game. Stop complaining that people are going to be buying it who aren't necessarily RPG enthusiasts. And on that note...

...it's entirely possible, though unlikely, that someone might be playing the 'Action' mode and thinks, "Hmm, I'd never say anything like that... Didn't the game say something about 'automated' dialogue? Let's try RPG mode and--Whoa, I'm really digging this!" Unlikely, sure, since the stereotype of Call of Duty players is that they're hyperactive, foul-mouthed eight-year-olds, but it could happen, and that can only be good. Besides, don't you want a game you really like to sell well, or are you not allowed to like popular things?

This. I really don't get why they'll yell DUMBED DOWN or in some cases RUINED FOREVER (they probably have by now) for every little thing they do.

Also, I like your avatar X3

 

[JamesStone]

Don't want to jump right into the conversation, but who is smudboy? Seriously, who the fuck is he? And why must Bioware listen to his arguments? And were can I watch his review?

No worries. Smudboy is a guy who´s on youtube telling everyone how Mass Effect 2 sucked, making stupid points about it, and trolling everyone that disagrees with him. Go look for some of his stuff, and you´ll see what I mean.

WARNING: It´s 60 full-of-shit minutes divided in 6 parts, not counting with the DLC´s videos adn the responses to people that disagree with him.

Haha, what? 60 minutes? Good lord, no I understand the connection to RedLetterMedia. Maybe I'll watch a little fo it and see how full of shit it is...maybe, or nah, I won't bother, if anyone wanna start arguing with me, they're gonna have to type their arguments.

But seriously, why would anyone whine in an hour over a game like ME 2? Granted, it's not the best game ever made, but an hour? Holy shit, he must be insane.

Oh, wait, sorry, that was wrong, I just re-counted, 140 minutes if you count with everything. If you really want to see it in is max charge of stupidity, just watch his 1st video or the Lair of the Shadow Broker commentary.

P.S: Maybe a little more than 140 minutes, I didn´t bother to count the written commentaries on the Bioware forum, because if I did, I´d have to read them, and I´m sick of smudboy. Also, he was banned from the same Bioware forums for being a troll and a arrogant prick to anyone that tried to awnser him, and he´s now here on the Escapist. Fuck, we´re doomed.