Mass Effect 3 Confusion

[DRes82]

So, I am genuinely confused. I just finished ME3 and for the life of me can't understand what all the anger towards Bioware is about.

Its an ending that brings about a definite conclusion to the series, while leaving enough information out to provide enough material for some pretty juicy DLC's.

I've played Mass Effect since its release in 2007, three playthroughs for ME1 and 2, just to get everything perfect for the third installment. I can honestly say, I am not disappointed by the ending I chose. Granted, its a little bit weak, and I am definitely curious about certain things, but I'm sure that they will be addressed in DLC.

Anyways, the point is...I would love to be able to understand what all the controversy is about surrounding the ending. Anyone able to help me with that?

 

[iseeyouthere]

It varies from person to person.

With the promises made, some people were expecting a ton of different endings.
With the choices made in the game, some people were expecting to see the results of their choices.
Lore wise, it doesn't make much sense with the massive plot holes and/or twisting DNA itself.

Most of what people are saying happens after is all speculation because we don't know what happens after the 'heroic' sacrific.
Some people are ok with the endings, but want closure.

Its confusing. I'm still recovering from my rage over it myself.
I'm thinking this might be a cliffhanger to build up emotions... I'm not sure and won't hold myself to that.

 

[DRes82]

After doing some reading, and seeing the explanations tossed around...I'm pretty thoroughly convinced that the ending could've been much better. Example: http://arkis.deviantart.com/art/Mass-Effect-3-Alternate-Endings-SPOILERS-289902125

Regardless, its not my place to tell the game's creators how their story should end. I'm also not quite sure that its even ended. I suppose we'll see.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

Is there a reason this couldn't have been added to one of the existing ME3 threads?

 

[Vegosiux]

It's not just the ending itself and all, but...you know, how they said you could get all the possible endings without touching multiplayer? Well, no, you can't, cause you can't get over 4K effective war assets without it.

 

[Fappy]

It's not just the ending itself and all, but...you know, how they said you could get all the possible endings without touching multiplayer? Well, no, you can't, cause you can't get over 4K effective war assets without it.

People still haven't figured out if they were straight up lying about that or if they just fail at math. Both are pretty sad.

 

[DRes82]

Is there a reason this couldn't have been added to one of the existing ME3 threads?

Yep. Because it would've been lost and ignored among all the other posts. Is there a reason why you couldn't contribute something to the thread instead of whining about the Escapist's apparently short supply of forum storage?

It's not just the ending itself and all, but...you know, how they said you could get all the possible endings without touching multiplayer? Well, no, you can't, cause you can't get over 4K effective war assets without it.

That's technically not true, since you can use the datapad and ME: Infiltrator apps to contribute to readiness. Which I did! Also, the multiplayer mode was totally easy to get into and non-obtrusive so I was fine with playing it.

However, the more I reflect on the ending the more...hollow...I feel about it. It wasn't satisfying, it was full of holes, and it didn't really reflect the coming together of the storyline. However, I'm hoping (and I do still have faith in Bioware) that it will all come together in a future installment, be it a full game or a DLC. Either would be fine.

That said, it would be awful if they caved to the more vocal fans' demands and actually rewrote the ending. I'm of the mindset that it is their story, they have the artistic license to do with it as they please. If they want a cold, hollow, unsatisfying ending then by all means, that is what they should get.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

Yep. Because it would've been lost and ignored among all the other posts. Is there a reason why you couldn't contribute something to the thread instead of whining about the Escapist's apparently short supply of forum storage?

Yeah, that's sort of the point, guy. Posts get ignored if there isn't any content in them worth commenting on. I mean, why reply to any thread? Why not just put your reply in the form of a new post so it "won't be ignored"?

 

[DRes82]

Yep. Because it would've been lost and ignored among all the other posts. Is there a reason why you couldn't contribute something to the thread instead of whining about the Escapist's apparently short supply of forum storage?

Yeah, that's sort of the point, guy. Posts get ignored if there isn't any content in them worth commenting on. I mean, why reply to any thread? Why not just put your reply in the form of a new post so it "won't be ignored"?

Alright, I'm infinitely sorry for ruining your life by creating a new thread. I sincerely hope that you and your loved ones are able to find the strength to carry on in the wake of this awful crisis. Really, dude? Whats your investment in this?

 

[BloatedGuppy]

Alright, I'm infinitely sorry for ruining your life by creating a new thread. I sincerely hope that you and your loved ones are able to find the strength to carry on in the wake of this awful crisis. Really, dude? Whats your investment in this?

You should be happy. You created a new thread to get attention. Look at all the attention I'm giving you. Is this not what you wanted?

I'm simply pointing out the fact that perfectly functional 10+ page threads have been discussing this issue ad nauseum for weeks. You could have added your voice to those discussions. Why you're being defensive about having that pointed out to you, only you can explain.

 

[DustyDrB]

Is there a reason this couldn't have been added to one of the existing ME3 threads?

Yep. Because it would've been lost and ignored among all the other posts. Is there a reason why you couldn't contribute something to the thread instead of whining about the Escapist's apparently short supply of forum storage?

But the answer to your question is in those threads.

You're hardly the only one, so we're not exactly vilifying you here.
The worst offenders are the ones who go "I know we already have threads on this topic and everyone is tired of them, by my opinion is enlightened so I'm making another repeat thread anyway". Laziness + Arrogance. Gotta hate that.

 

[DRes82]

Alright, I'm infinitely sorry for ruining your life by creating a new thread. I sincerely hope that you and your loved ones are able to find the strength to carry on in the wake of this awful crisis. Really, dude? Whats your investment in this?

You should be happy. You created a new thread to get attention. Look at all the attention I'm giving you. Is this not what you wanted?

I'm simply pointing out the fact that perfectly functional 10+ page threads have been discussing this issue ad nauseum for weeks. You could have added your voice to those discussions. Why you're being defensive about having that pointed out to you, only you can explain.

Heh, you're barking up the wrong tree with the attention card. If I'm posting here, you can be certain that it isn't for THAT reason.

Well, you got what you want...you derailed my thread. That's ok, though...that article on the front page totally answered my question anyways.

Carry on policing the forums. I assume that it's your day job. Well done! I hope they pay you enough.

But the answer to your question is in those threads.

You're hardly the only one, so we're not exactly vilifying you here.
The worst offenders are the ones who go "I know we already have threads on this topic and everyone is tired of them, by my opinion is enlightened so I'm making another repeat thread anyway". Laziness + Arrogance. Gotta hate that.

To be completely honest, I browsed the forums for a good 15 minutes. Didn't find a coherent answer to my question, and so posted it. I had a sincere curiosity about the reasoning behind the outrage. It had nothing to do with attention-garnering. Seriously...one of the most hostile forums I've ever posted on.

That's fine, wait until another pony thread comes out. I took shit for Skyrim threads, too. Apparently we're not supposed to talk about games on the gaming forum.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

Heh, you're barking up the wrong tree with the attention card. If I'm posting here, you can be certain that it isn't for THAT reason.

Well, you got what you want...you derailed my thread. That's ok, though...that article on the front page totally answered my question anyways.

Carry on policing the forums. I assume that it's your day job. Well done! I hope they pay you enough.

Again, I have no idea why you're being so defensive about this. You asked a question that has been answered hundreds of times, has had dozens of articles and videos covering it linked profusely, and has been debated back and forth on these forums for weeks. Your question could easily have been answered in seconds if you spent even a minute or two in one of the existing threads.

If you want to shoot the messenger, by all means, be my guest. That's your prerogative.

 

[DoPo]

So you wanted to be heard. Here, we heard you. What can I comment that hasn't been said in over 10 threads already? You aren't bringing anything new to the table, in fact you didn't even check one of the threads why people didn't like the ending.

What possible comment can we offer to this thread that is worth it and interesting? You liked the ending? Good! I did too, as did some other people as far as I'm aware. Now you're convinced it could have been better? Cool... Join the legion - of course it could have been better. You don't want to tell BioWare how to do their endings? Awesome! Some other people agree with you.

So what now? How do we continue the discussion here?

 

[DRes82]

stuff

I get it, no discussion value. I'm a horrible person for posting about Mass Effect. We're not supposed to talk about games on the gaming forum. Only ponies. Thank you for showing me the error of my ways, children.

I'll begin my self-flagellation immediately.

Edit: I wonder how many more enlightened posters are going to try and show me how wrong I was to ask a question in the form of a thread?

 

[putowtin]

It's not just the ending itself and all, but...you know, how they said you could get all the possible endings without touching multiplayer? Well, no, you can't, cause you can't get over 4K effective war assets without it.

you can get it without the multiplayer...

you just have to play the game through a second time with the same Shepard!

 

[BloatedGuppy]

stuff

I get it, no discussion value. I'm a horrible person for posting about Mass Effect. We're not supposed to talk about games on the gaming forum. Only ponies. Thank you for showing me the error of my ways, children.

I'll begin my self-flagellation immediately.

Is this attitude meant to make the forums a LESS hostile place to post? People aren't being particularly unkind to you. Why don't you just calm down, and add your thoughts to one of the other threads, instead of having a tantrum?

 

[boag]

So, I am genuinely confused. I just finished ME3 and for the life of me can't understand what all the anger towards Bioware is about.

Its an ending that brings about a definite conclusion to the series, while leaving enough information out to provide enough material for some pretty juicy DLC's.

I've played Mass Effect since its release in 2007, three playthroughs for ME1 and 2, just to get everything perfect for the third installment. I can honestly say, I am not disappointed by the ending I chose. Granted, its a little bit weak, and I am definitely curious about certain things, but I'm sure that they will be addressed in DLC.

Anyways, the point is...I would love to be able to understand what all the controversy is about surrounding the ending. Anyone able to help me with that?

Tell me, what difference there is between a very Paragon run and a very renegade run in the end.

 

[DRes82]

stuff

I get it, no discussion value. I'm a horrible person for posting about Mass Effect. We're not supposed to talk about games on the gaming forum. Only ponies. Thank you for showing me the error of my ways, children.

I'll begin my self-flagellation immediately.

Is this attitude meant to make the forums a LESS hostile place to post? People aren't being particularly unkind to you. Why don't you just calm down, and add your thoughts to one of the other threads, instead of having a tantrum?

This attitude is the result of being bludgeoned by the whines self-righteous posters who think that I created a thread solely for the purpose of getting attention. Its rare that I create a thread. I've created three maybe four in the years that I've been here. When I do, its because I'm sincerely curious about the responses of my fellow gamers. Obviously, 'my fellow gamers' are not a part of the user base here at the escapist. Not any more, anyways.

So yeah, when I'm condescended to and patronized by people who are bored enough to scan through threads in the hopes of finding something to chastise the creator about, I get a little defensive.

Seriously, get over yourselves.

 

[DRes82]

So, I am genuinely confused. I just finished ME3 and for the life of me can't understand what all the anger towards Bioware is about.

Its an ending that brings about a definite conclusion to the series, while leaving enough information out to provide enough material for some pretty juicy DLC's.

I've played Mass Effect since its release in 2007, three playthroughs for ME1 and 2, just to get everything perfect for the third installment. I can honestly say, I am not disappointed by the ending I chose. Granted, its a little bit weak, and I am definitely curious about certain things, but I'm sure that they will be addressed in DLC.

Anyways, the point is...I would love to be able to understand what all the controversy is about surrounding the ending. Anyone able to help me with that?

Tell me, what difference there is between a very Paragon run and a very renegade run in the end.

There is no difference. =/

I get the point. heh.