Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut ~ It's Official :O

[WanderingFool]

Looks like Bioware are only digging themselves a deeper hole.


Personally I can't see anything good coming from this. RIP Bioware, you were once a great company, now you're just a bunch of douchebags. I, for one, will be saving my money and purchasing other games instead of their crap.

I feel you they want to justify the endings and only give you answers instead of giving us a TRUE ending that ends with shephard and his love interest how other species behave afterwards etc, But if i remember correctly Casey Hudson was the one who was ONLY in charge to write the ending if what i read was correct.

If I recall, Casey Hudson is going to be involved with this DLC also... so yeah, its probably going to be shit...

 

[killerguythefox]

Looks like Bioware are only digging themselves a deeper hole.


Personally I can't see anything good coming from this. RIP Bioware, you were once a great company, now you're just a bunch of douchebags. I, for one, will be saving my money and purchasing other games instead of their crap.

I feel you they want to justify the endings and only give you answers instead of giving us a TRUE ending that ends with shephard and his love interest how other species behave afterwards etc, But if i remember correctly Casey Hudson was the one who was ONLY in charge to write the ending if what i read was correct.

If I recall, Casey Hudson is going to be involved with this DLC also... so yeah, its probably going to be shit...

Yeah..... i'm just losing so much faith now i was quite neutral and accepted alot and hoped for the TRUE ending but no they want to continue down the path of screwing the game up even more, I'm really really just losing my faith in them
Doesn't mean i hate them but i lose respect for them? yes

 

[The_Lost_King]

Through additional cinematic sequences and epilogue scenes, the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut will give fans seeking further clarity to the ending of Mass Effect 3 deeper insights into how their personal journey concludes

It sounds like shit. We don't want answers. This isn't LOST. We want an ending that makes sense.

What this guy said.

 

[Jake0fTrades]

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I'm not disagreeing with you. The ending was horrible, but changing it like this at the demands of the audience is basically just a cop-out. If I were a writer and someone didn't like the ending to one of my books, I'd say "shove it" and move on.

Remember when people were complaining because the game was trying to appeal to a larger audience by upgrading the action and adding multiplayer? People were worried that the game's original personality and themes would be lost; they wanted the developers to ignore the larger audience and focus on the things that made Mass Effect what it was. This is the same situation in reverse. Now the audience is demanding that Bioware heed their demands at the cost of their original conceptions.

 

[killerguythefox]

Through additional cinematic sequences and epilogue scenes, the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut will give fans seeking further clarity to the ending of Mass Effect 3 deeper insights into how their personal journey concludes

It sounds like shit. We don't want answers. This isn't LOST. We want an ending that makes sense.

What this guy said.

Double what this guy said. Haha exactly my thoughts

 

[SajuukKhar]

and you're indoctrinated.
but really, the point the star child makes is that its imposable for synthetics and organics to co-exist.
which as I've said Shepard's existence proves that wrong.
thus the whole idiotic machine logic "we are going to wipe out organics with sentient machines to prevent organics from creating machines that with wipe out all organics".

Except nothing about Shepard's existence proves them wrong, nothing in the slightest.

All the events of the entire ME series, and all the events of the lives of the characters in the series, combined provide literally 0 evidence that The Catalyst is wrong in any way.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

As long as that plot hole godchild remains in the game I want nothing to do with EA or Bioware and any of their future games. Make that damn kid go away and then we'll talk. Otherwise I'm done!

If you read it right the context is that they want to JUSTIFY the endings and what not and give you answers to what you do afterwards, It's hardly even what we asked for and it's not a TRUE ending, So much for striking a good balance this is only gonna generate over 9000 more times flak towards bioware then before.

Of course it will. Because of the godchild. The mere existence of The Catalyst destroys the entire plot of Mass Effect 1. If that is destroyed then ME2 and ME3 are as well. That's the size of the plot hole this kid created.

-If godchild controls the Reapers then why didn't he activate the Citadel to bring the Reapers? Why did he need Sovereign to find the Conduit? He can control the Reapers but he can't control the very place where he exists for some unexplained reason? Are we to believe that explanation?

-Then there is the fact that it is never explained exactly how can Shepard control the Reapers and why he has to die to control them? And how the fuck can he control them if he's dead?

-And then there is the synthesis which is just some magic light that somehow transform all life in the galaxy into organic-synthetic hybrids. Again, it is never explained how and trying to explain it would be pointless because it is a stupid concept that shouldn't even exist.

-And then there is the destroy ending which basically destroys the Citadel as well. So fuck all those millions of people on the Citadel. And lets just ignore the Citadel debris falling on Earth killing everyone because it's bigger than the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs.

But the biggest problem of all is the nonsense that is the reason for the cycle. Synthetics will always want to kill organics? HELLO? The Geth?!!! They never wanted to fight. They just wanted to download themselves in a huge server and become more intelligent. It seems like the only synthetics that want to wipe out organic life are the fuckin' Reapers. Even other synthetics don't like them.

And even if synthetics are gonna kill all organics eventually, what's it to you? Why the fuck do you care? Didn't Sovereign say that organic life is just an accident? Reaper motives cannot be benevolent. They are supposed to be logical. If they view organic life as a mistake then they shouldn't care if organic life exists at all. Which means they aren't concerned about organics for the sake of organics. They are concerned because they need organics for whatever their evil reason may be.

 

[killerguythefox]

SNIP

I'm not disagreeing with you. The ending was horrible, but changing it like this at the demands of the audience is basically just a cop-out. If I were a writer and someone didn't like the ending to one of my books, I'd say "shove it" and move on.

Remember when people were complaining because the game was trying to appeal to a larger audience by upgrading the action and adding multiplayer? People were worried that the game's original personality and themes would be lost; they wanted the developers to ignore the larger audience and focus on the things that made Mass Effect what it was. This is the same situation in reverse. Now the audience is demanding that Bioware heed their demands at the cost of their original conceptions.

Fair point and FYI i wasnt being negative towards you, I'm quite sorry if it seems so.

But yes i accepted the multiplayer part for what it was and despite all the drama it caused is so much fun.
It was confirmed a seperate team made multiplayer anyway so no hurt on main game quality there.

I gotta say the situation is blown just way way too much out of control,
But the ending going against everything what mass effect is? i think its more then justified to say we are telling them that what they are doing now is only gonna contradict the series philosophy even more, I'm not saying its in out power to demand new endings but *ITS IN OUR RIGHTS TO TELL WHEN THEY ARE GOING AGAINST WHAT THE SERIES IS* once again i think demanding is just silly but if people could just be reasonable and tell bioware this ISNT mass effect with what they did with the endings/ending and even this to that extent

 

[SajuukKhar]

But the biggest problem of all is the nonsense that is the reason for the cycle. Synthetics will always want to kill organics? HELLO? The Geth?!!! They never wanted to fight. They just wanted to download themselves in a huge server and become more intelligent. It seems like the only synthetics that want to wipe out organic life are the fuckin' Reapers. Even other synthetics don't like them.

And even if synthetics are gonna kill all organics eventually, what's it to you? Why the fuck do you care? Didn't Sovereign say that organic life is just an accident? Reaper motives cannot be benevolent. They are supposed to be logical. If they view organic life as a mistake then they shouldn't care if organic life exists at all. Which means they aren't concerned about organics for the sake of organics. They are concerned because they need organics for whatever their evil reason may be.

And again your missing the entire point of what The Catalyst said.

He said EVENTUALLY Synthetics will kill organics, he never said the Geth would be the ones to do it.

Also the geth being peaceful for the brief existence they had had shows nothing about how they would act in a post-upgrade universe were they have individuality.

Your entire argument works on the flawed principal of once nice = can never be evil for all time afterwards.

 

[Jake0fTrades]

SNIP

It's all cool. I didn't really think you were attacking me or anything.

This whole Ending thing has gotten way out of hand. Hopefully this at least sets some minds at ease.

 

[killerguythefox]

SNIP

It's all cool. I didn't really think you were attacking me or anything.

This whole Ending thing has gotten way out of hand. Hopefully this at least sets some minds at ease.

In what i can get out of the announcement it will be few very few,
I'm sure it will only enrage more people then calming then

 

[TorqueConverter]

I'm also glad EA has the sense to not try and profit off of this. It'd be their funeral if they had. <color=#f7f7f7>Metaphorically, anyway.

Why? I hate EA as much a as the next guy, but this DLC is legit. They have every right to charge for this DLC. The day one DLC was content removed from the game and they had no right to charge money for that, but this DLC is genuine.

I just don't understand why we were willing to let them get away with that day one DLC, then throw shit fest over the ending to the game and then go as far as to demand that the ending DLC be free? It sends the message that we don't care how unethical their business practices may be, as long as we get our product. It says we buy a product blindly without research, are illinformed and will throw a fit if the product isn't exactly the way we wanted it to be in our heads.

 

[thememan]

I think that the whole "free" part is a bit more telling than anything else. At the least, it indicates that the problem is a bit more than "a vocal minority" that Bioware and every one else has been harping about. The reasoning is simple. Bioware and EA have shown that they are more than willing to release pointless and tiny DLC and charge a good chunk of money for it. They charge for damn near everything DLC related. To have a major DLC that is a departure from this business plan is rather strange, and really quite indicative that something big has gone awry in their plans.

 

[Atmos Duality]

Hah. "Free".
I'll believe it's free when it's actually up on the market for zip.

ASIDE: And I've entered the same Captcha 4 times now to post.
Fuck this is stupid.

 

[Unsilenced]

But the biggest problem of all is the nonsense that is the reason for the cycle. Synthetics will always want to kill organics? HELLO? The Geth?!!! They never wanted to fight. They just wanted to download themselves in a huge server and become more intelligent. It seems like the only synthetics that want to wipe out organic life are the fuckin' Reapers. Even other synthetics don't like them.

And even if synthetics are gonna kill all organics eventually, what's it to you? Why the fuck do you care? Didn't Sovereign say that organic life is just an accident? Reaper motives cannot be benevolent. They are supposed to be logical. If they view organic life as a mistake then they shouldn't care if organic life exists at all. Which means they aren't concerned about organics for the sake of organics. They are concerned because they need organics for whatever their evil reason may be.

And again your missing the entire point of what The Catalyst said.

He said EVENTUALLY Synthetics will kill organics, he never said the Geth would be the ones to do it.

Also the geth being peaceful for the brief existence they had had shows nothing about how they would act in a post-upgrade universe were they have individuality.

Your entire argument works on the flawed principal of once nice = can never be evil for all time afterwards.

We must destroy the planet because eventually chipmunks will ruin everything.

I know it hasn't yet, but eventually it will.

Trust me.

Killing everything is the only way to prevent the chipmunk uprising.

 

[ZehMadScientist]

How I wish Zeel would have lived long enough to see this. It would have made this thread a battlefield.

I think it's great. Closure is all I ever wanted from the ending, and that's what we'll be getting, and for free at that. This news made my day. Unless some high ranking Bioware executive Twitters that it was all a huge miscommunication or anything, so there is still this 1% of scepticism in me.

 

[Joseph Alexander]

Through additional cinematic sequences and epilogue scenes, the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut will give fans seeking further clarity to the ending of Mass Effect 3 deeper insights into how their personal journey concludes

It sounds like shit. We don't want answers. This isn't LOST. We want an ending that makes sense.

What this guy said.

Double what this guy said. Haha exactly my thoughts

triple!

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

And again your missing the entire point of what The Catalyst said.

He said EVENTUALLY Synthetics will kill organics, he never said the Geth would be the ones to do it.

Also the geth being peaceful for the brief existence they had had shows nothing about how they would act in a post-upgrade universe were they have individuality.

Your entire argument works on the flawed principal of once nice = can never be evil for all time afterwards.

That's ironic because it's the same logical fallacy the Catalysis is making (once evil always evil). Don't you realize that the whole "synthetics will eventually kill all organics" is nothing more than an opinion? An opinion that is in itself illogical.

-How can The Catalyst KNOW that synthetics will eventually kill ALL organics unless it happened many times in the past? And how can synthetics kill ALL organics in the galaxy more than once? All organics means ALL ORGANICS. Not just advanced races. If synthetics don't actually kill all organics then what's the point of the Reapers? And why don't the Reapers just kill all synthetics instead? It would be easier, cleaner and more to the point. Their current task doesn't make any sense whatsoever!

-So on one hand we have an assumption that synthetics will eventually kill all organics, without any shred of evidence, and on the other hand we have an entire race of synthetics that doesn't want to harm organics. Sure, you can argue that it's only for the time being, but you can't know that, and it shows that the co-existence isn't impossible. That's what's important. Assumptions can't be proved or disproved. They are based on probability. And the probability is in favor of possible co-existence. An advanced race of machines should know at least that much about logic. It turns out they aren't incomprehensible, they're just retarded.

 

[axlryder]

I bet this won't satisfy half the whiners complaining about the ending. At this point Bioware are damned if they do damned if they don't.

I think it's more like "really damned if they don't, slightly less damned if they do what they're doing, and considerably less damned if they'd actually changed the damn ending, but inevitably somewhat damned on account of the current outcome having ever seen the light of day"....


after a moment of reflection, I think going with your phrasing is best.