Mass Effect 3: Leviathan is about reaper origins

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Some new...news about the mysterious Mass Effect 3 DLC named "Leviathan" has recently come up, and, taken directly from the Kotaku page which was taken from the EA page will delve into the origin of the reapers

From the Kotaku article
Mass Effect 3: Leviathan is the first story-driven, single player DLC to be made available since Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut. Leviathan expands upon the events of Mass Effect 3 with gripping and emotional storytelling, compelling new characters, powerful weapons and unique upgrades. Players will be able to discover more about the origins of the reapers as they race across the galaxy to unravel the mystery that surrounds the fabled Leviathan.
I'm personally excited, this could be very cool if done right.

What do you think?

Original Article: http://kotaku.com/5931347/mass-effect-3s-new-single+player-dlc-delves-into-the-origins-of-the-reapers

Edit: Apparently there will be mech riding in the DLC...underwater, cause why not?
Also its about lair of the shadow broker length and will cost 10 bucks, coming out sometime this summer.
Thanks goes to Goofguy for the second link

Link: http://kotaku.com/5931451/riding-a-mech-to-the-bottom-of-the-ocean-in-mass-effect-3s-leviathan-dlc?utm_campaign=socialflow_kotaku_twitter&utm_source=kotaku_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
 

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After the many free multiplayer DLC's, as well as the free Extended Cut DLC, I'm willing to bet that they will charge for this one.

In which case I will do so. I love me some Mass Effect.
 

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Won't get rid of the Star Child... and really, they're trying to draw people to the DLC by saying, "hey, this has information you guys said you wanted in the ending."

Well, no, that's not really what we said. Also, where does it all lead? All DLC must be before the final mission... so what, they keep adding new information that is learned before that, and the story eventually reaches a point where it is: Oh yeah, Shepard actually knew all the secrets of the Universe before the assault.
 

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I've read some log files that were extracted from EC, and what I got from them is that Leviathan is supposed to be fully organic ship. Not half-synthetic-half-organic, like Reaper, but fully organic, like Tyranid motherships. I also have a theory, that Bioware gonna keep adding new DLCs with new War-Assets and in the end Shepard will be able to refuse Star-Child's offer and still win. But that's just a theory.
 

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gripping and emotional storytelling, compelling new characters, powerful weapons and unique upgrades.
I didn't realize it was physically possible to cram that much generic PR nonsense in one sentence.
 

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It's been known for a while. I'll maybe watch it on YouTube. No way I'm giving my money to EA/Bioware.


They decided to run Mass Effect even deeper in the ground with this. So who wants to bet that the thorian has something to do with the origin of Reapers? Thorian was an ancient life form with the ability to indoctrinate.

I really hope it's not that fuckin' obvious.
 

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No, No, No, No Bioware! When you have an Eldritch lovecraftian Character you DO NOT explain what they are or where they came from. You merely dance around it or give cryptic or unreliable hints as to their nature.



"Rudimentary creature of Blood and Flesh, you touch my mind, Fumbling in ignorance INCAPABLE of understanding." -Sovereign


To gaze upon the visage of Cthulhu is to court madness. If you gaze upon Cthulhu's tentacley awesomeness and understand it then Cthulhu's not that scary a character. The Reapers were terrifying because they were unknown (perhaps unknowable). If we learn too much about them or their motivations then they become normal, relatable, and mundane.



"The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown" -H.P. Lovecraft



I WANT THE CTHULHU-BORG TO REMAIN THE CTHULHU-BORG! I don't want them to just be those rouge octopus A.I.


...Rant done. I guess I shouldn't care very much any more since Bioware already screwed the pooch on the Reapers (among other things) with the ending, E.C. or not, but it's easier to head-canon one screw up than it is two.


EDIT: On an unrelated note, I'm almost out of Space on my Xbox and can't handle many more DLC's... so... uhh... Boo
 

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Z of the Na said:
After the many free multiplayer DLC's, as well as the free Extended Cut DLC, I'm willing to bet that they will charge for this one.
You'd be correct on that bet: $10 for Leviathan
$2 for the upcoming single-player weapons pack.
http://blog.bioware.com/2012/08/02/mass-effect-3-leviathan-firefight-dlc-and-wii-u-information/

Frankly, I have my concerns that any new information presented about the Reapers is only going to create additional contradictory continuity in the already fractured trilogy (even discounting the books and comics). Personally, I'd rather be taking back Omega.
 

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Sorry mass effect, I no longer care about your DLC, the ending still sucks.
 

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Adam Jensen said:
It's been known for a while. I'll maybe watch it on YouTube. No way I'm giving my money to EA/Bioware.


They decided to run Mass Effect even deeper in the ground with this. So who wants to bet that the thorian has something to do with the origin of Reapers? Thorian was an ancient life form with the ability to indoctrinate.

I really hope it's not that fuckin' obvious.
Sounds more like the flood.

I could believe it after seeing this:



OT: I probably won't buy it, not out of distrust but much more of a "I'm almost done with Mass Effect 3, maybe a couple more games of multiplayer are still in me"
 

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oconneki said:
No, No, No, No Bioware! When you have an Eldritch lovecraftian Character you DO NOT explain what they are or where they came from. You merely dance around it or give cryptic or unreliable hints as to their nature.
They kind of already threw the whole "beyond our comprehension" thing out the window at the end of ME3. That mystique that goes with the whole "eldritch abomination" thing is gone, so they may as well explain a bit more. Just a bit.

I'm almost certainly going to buy this. The single-player player weapons thing, not so much. I have plenty of cool guns in single-player without any DLC.
 

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ComradeJim270 said:
oconneki said:
No, No, No, No Bioware! When you have an Eldritch lovecraftian Character you DO NOT explain what they are or where they came from. You merely dance around it or give cryptic or unreliable hints as to their nature.
They kind of already threw the whole "beyond our comprehension" thing out the window at the end of ME3. That mystique that goes with the whole "eldritch abomination" thing is gone, so they may as well explain a bit more. Just a bit.

I'm almost certainly going to buy this. The single-player player weapons thing, not so much. I have plenty of cool guns in single-player without any DLC.

It would be better to just pretend that the ending to ME3 never happened, but if they're going to explain everything they could do it with tact. They COULD use the DLC to throw into question the A.I.'s explanation or even hint at the reapers and the God child being pawns of a larger unseen force. Anything could be better if it reinstated the mystery of the Reapers. When you explain you ruin mystery (i.e. the thing that made the reapers good bad guys). When you explain away explanation (with good writing of course) you can salvage mystery. Too many "Eldritch abominations" get ruined because of curiosity (The Flood, The Reapers, etc...). Even Lovecraft's At the Mountains of Madness had a little too much explanation of the Elder things, and he was the master of Cosmic Horror.... F bad writing.


EDIT: I Freakin' Love At the Mountains of Madness BTW. It just wasn't the best of H.P.'s work. Don't wanna give any of ya the wrong idea :)
 

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I thought this was known for a while now?
Anyway, eh. If it's free, I'll play it when/if I replay the game, if not, I doubt I'll play it. Origins of the reapers don't really intrigue me.
 

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I'm not sure. I would like to play it, of course, but the whole idea of paying for DLC makes me very uncomfortable. It took me some time to muscle up and get the Shadow Broker and From Ashes DLC's, simply because both seemed essential. I guess this could be summoned up as essential as well, so I don't know.

The idea of it sounds okay. Explaining the origins of them, possible explaining who the original race is of which the Reapers took their form. Or something like that.
 

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I could care less.

The only single player DLC I really care about would be some kind of long-lost colony of still functional Prothean stasis tubes for Shep to uncover.

Not because I'll buy it, mind you, simply because it would allow for Prothean classes DLC in the multiplayer. I'm still clinging to the MP trying to get my $80 worth out of the game, and it is kind of fun.
 

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oconneki said:
It would be better to just pretend that the ending to ME3 never happened, but if they're going to explain everything they could do it with tact. They COULD use the DLC to throw into question the A.I.'s explanation or even hint at the reapers and the God child being pawns of a larger unseen force. Anything could be better if it reinstated the mystery of the Reapers. When you explain you ruin mystery (i.e. the thing that made the reapers good bad guys). When you explain away explanation (with good writing of course) you can salvage mystery. Too many "Eldritch abominations" get ruined because of curiosity (The Flood, The Reapers, etc...). Even Lovecraft's At the Mountains of Madness had a little too much explanation of the Elder things, and he was the master of Cosmic Horror.... F bad writing.


EDIT: I Freakin' Love At the Mountains of Madness BTW. It just wasn't the best of H.P.'s work. Don't wanna give any of ya the wrong idea :)
Yeah, I get that. It would be a very easy thing to to do wrong, but it's not impossible to do right, and BioWare has good writers when they let the writers actually do their jobs.
 

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oconneki said:
No, No, No, No Bioware! When you have an Eldritch lovecraftian Character you DO NOT explain what they are or where they came from. You merely dance around it or give cryptic or unreliable hints as to their nature.



"Rudimentary creature of Blood and Flesh, you touch my mind, Fumbling in ignorance INCAPABLE of understanding." -Sovereign


To gaze upon the visage of Cthulhu is to court madness. If you gaze upon Cthulhu's tentacley awesomeness and understand it then Cthulhu's not that scary a character. The Reapers were terrifying because they were unknown (perhaps unknowable). If we learn too much about them or their motivations then they become normal, relatable, and mundane.



"The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown" -H.P. Lovecraft



I WANT THE CTHULHU-BORG TO REMAIN THE CTHULHU-BORG! I don't want them to just be those rouge octopus A.I.
They made it very clear with the original ME3 ending that they have no goddamn idea what to do with their villains. It still baffles me that they think the story is about the Reapers, and that anyone ever asked for their background. Everyone was thrilled with the "you cannot even grasp the nature of our existence"-thing from the first game, so why break it?

And I bet my ass this isn't going to be a cryptic mindfucky horror-DLC, even if they've clearly shown us that they can do horror with the Ardat-Yakshi monastery mission.
 

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Attercap said:
Frankly, I have my concerns that any new information presented about the Reapers is only going to create additional contradictory continuity in the already fractured trilogy (even discounting the books and comics). Personally, I'd rather be taking back Omega.
This! So so fucking much this! Come on BioWare, we dont give a fuck about any other Reapery Shenanegins. You cant have Aria show up essentially saying 'Cerberus took Omega from me, I'll be taking it back with your help in a DLC pack (possibly with me as a squadmate)' and not follow through!

At least fucking announce it. Just say 'Yes, there will be Omega DLC.' and I'll be happy.

IllumInaTIma said:
I also have a theory, that Bioware gonna keep adding new DLCs with new War-Assets and in the end Shepard will be able to refuse Star-Child's offer and still win. But that's just a theory.
I agree with this also. More because of the fact that EA will shut the multiplayer servers down in about two years, and they need enough DLC war assets in place in order for players to achieve the 'optimal' ending without access to the multiplayer.
 

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All this DLC will not give you a better chance at fighting the reapers! So why bother?
Lair of the Shadow Broker, Overloard and The Arrivel where outside of the main story of ME2, thats way they are good. I would expect that the DLC would give you better chances, but it will not, so all the SP DLC that is coming now is just a waste.

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The_Waspman said:
Attercap said:
IllumInaTIma said:
I also have a theory, that Bioware gonna keep adding new DLCs with new War-Assets and in the end Shepard will be able to refuse Star-Child's offer and still win. But that's just a theory.
I agree with this also. More because of the fact that EA will shut the multiplayer servers down in about two years, and they need enough DLC war assets in place in order for players to achieve the 'optimal' ending without access to the multiplayer.
The way the developers talked about there ending and all that, I highly doubt it.