Trolling troll is trolling? Because there would be and will be just as much displeasure about the ending of Mass Effect, and these people are trying to both put their money where their mouth is, and doing so in a way that helps a charity.
Giving to charity, solely because of tax purposes seems a bit to me like trying to dodge your responsibilty to society. Taxes are there for a reason, to make society run.
I'm not sure what you mean by that last question. Hiring a marketing firm, IE paying for their work, where as giving to a charity is volunteraly giving your money for a good cause. I don't really see how the two are comparable. You disagree, I know, but as I've said, to me this just seems like a way of getting attention to your cause at the expense of the charity, rather than you truly genuinly wanting to donate to charity. I might be wrong, but to me, that doesn't seem likely. Not in this case, anyway.
In any case, you don't need my approval, there's absolutely nothing stopping you from doing it. I just think it's cheap to use charity for something like this.
Please, please, please explain how giving money to a charity, for WHATEVER reason, is "at the expense of the charity"? Imagine you're a sick kid, and Child's Play is donating goods and services to you. Do you give a shit whether the people who donated the money for those did it on a whim, or to give their ME3 petition some profile?
I meant "you" in the plural, not you specifically. Sorry about the confusion. I meant to write that at the bottom, but I forgot.
I don't have a problem with people giving to charity, I think that's just fine and dandy. What I think is cheap though, is using the charity for your own ends, instead of truly wanting to better the life of sick children. I admit, "at the expense of charity" was a poor choice of words and for that I apologize.
I really don't see what this issue with this is. People are passionate about their hobby and looking for support. Might as well donate to charity while you're at it. It's better than harassing employees on their social media sites.
Wish people would just get over the ME3 endings now. I was disappointed by the endings and ive moved on to play something else. I havnt moaned, whined and bitched about it continuously. Its getting a little pathetic now.
Also Bioware will not make a new ending, and they shouldnt have. No one ever moaned this much about other games endings. If you want a new ending turn the game off as soon as you get zapped and use your imagination. Create your own ending. What will seeing it in an add on really add? Wasnt so long ago every one was bitching about SOPA and freedom of the internet.....and now everyone is trying to force a company to change an ending to their game.
I didn't like the endings, I'll go ahead and put that out there before I type anything else.
As such, I like this little charity movement. Do I think it will accomplish anything to 'fix' the endings? No. Not at all. But I do think it is a much better move than those petitions out there that call for everything up to a bloody lynch mob to show up at Bioware/EA's door and demand satisfaction.
You see, not only is this done in better spirits, but even though neither method will do anything to change the Mass Effect ending, at least some good will actually come from this one.
Also, I am one who has the opinion that the motivation behind the donations for this, don't matter a bit so long as the kids are helped. There may be an ulterior motive, but for one it isn't going to actually happen (especially not because of this donation drive), and for two I don't really care so long as Child's Play is getting money out of it.
Wish people would just get over the ME3 endings now. I was disappointed by the endings and ive moved on to play something else. I havnt moaned, whined and bitched about it continuously. Its getting a little pathetic now.
Also Bioware will not make a new ending, and they shouldnt have. No one ever moaned this much about other games endings. If you want a new ending turn the game off as soon as you get zapped and use your imagination. Create your own ending. What will seeing it in an add on really add? Wasnt so long ago every one was bitching about SOPA and freedom of the internet.....and now everyone is trying to force a company to change an ending to their game.
Fallout 3 had an equally terrible ending that everyone hated, I don't know if they got nearly as bad press as this is getting, but they did end up fixing that ending with the Broken Steel DLC, so the change to a games ending is not entirely out of the question
Yeah, I'm gonna have to say fuck you guys. Maybe if you were story writers there and decided that you could do better, then this'd be okay. But no, you're a bunch of whiny, entitled, self-important douchebags. You're consumers buying a form of art (in the same way that movies are art), and when buying art, you have no right to ***** about how shitty it is. You bought someone else's creative work, and if their work is not up to your standards, then that's your loss. It's not their job to remake it to suit your wants.
I really don't see what this issue with this is. People are passionate about their hobby and looking for support. Might as well donate to charity while you're at it. It's better than harassing employees on their social media sites.
"We didnt like the Ending, so were going to do a charity drive to get it changed"?
Now dont get me wrong, my morals are loose ((insert 'yo mama' joke here)), but this comes off as.... Highly Immoral >.>; For some strange reason.
I didnt mind the ending. In fact, if you get the supposed "hidden meaning" behind it
It was all a hallucination brought upon my possible indoctrination.
Then it actually seems like one of the best endings ive seen. It was good enough to fool me, and your talking to the guy who couldnt finish "Heavy Rain" because i figured out who the origami killer was in the first 2 hours. (i did actually finish it about 3 months later, but i wasnt able to just sit down and "finish it" like i could any other game)
It wasnt a bad ending, and if the hidden meaning behind it is true, then its actually a great ending. But the important part was, its an "Ending". This story of Mass Effect is over. This version of the galaxy and its story are not going to be in another game. The next ME ((if it is made)) will be someone completely unrelated to Shepard. And this "Ending" to the game, is that. A final ending. Cut and dry. Universe gets F*CKED and Murphys Law kicks in. Shepard? Done. And thats what this ending needed to do.
And i think thats the reason why so many people really hated it. Shepard, the person youve carried through 2 full games, and into the third, is now over. Almost any ending where he dies is one that will have legions of people angry. Sure, an option where you keep him alive ((if you dont believe in the hidden meaning)) would be nice, but oh well.
My view on the whole thing? Not to come off as mean or anything, but its, "Get over it". Its an ending. And not the worst one ive seen. Play through Kane and Lynch 2 if you want a truly TERRIBLE ending. ((Dont get me wrong, i actually kind of liked the game itself, but that was the worst ending ever written. Unless the writer died and the Animation team had to fill in for him/her.))
Yeah, I'm gonna have to say fuck you guys. Maybe if you were story writers there and decided that you could do better, then this'd be okay. But no, you're a bunch of whiny, entitled, self-important douchebags. You're consumers buying a form of art (in the same way that movies are art), and when buying art, you have no right to ***** about how shitty it is. You bought someone else's creative work, and if their work is not up to your standards, then that's your loss. It's not their job to remake it to suit your wants.
Buyer beware. You bought their game, you were disappointed, oh well. The world goes on, the company goes on, and the game stays the same. It's not at all their job to rebuild their game from the ground-up just to please people who think they're important enough to have creative control over the game.
My opinion, the most you should get is a "Sorry you didn't enjoy it," and maybe your money back. The refund is seriously pushing it.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to say fuck you guys. Maybe if you were story writers there and decided that you could do better, then this'd be okay. But no, you're a bunch of whiny, entitled, self-important douchebags. You're consumers buying a form of art (in the same way that movies are art), and when buying art, you have no right to ***** about how shitty it is. You bought someone else's creative work, and if their work is not up to your standards, then that's your loss. It's not their job to remake it to suit your wants.
Buyer beware. You bought their game, you were disappointed, oh well. The world goes on, the company goes on, and the game stays the same. It's not at all their job to rebuild their game from the ground-up just to please people who think they're important enough to have creative control over the game.
My opinion, the most you should get is a "Sorry you didn't enjoy it," and maybe your money back. The refund is seriously pushing it.
I think this is important enough to warrant it's own thread/a place to allow people that share the same thoughts as the creators of the movement.
No matter what your position on the endings might be, I think this a kind gesture from the ME community, and is nice to see so many people coming together and fight for what they belive in, while doing a good deed.
Really? Okay, I don't have anything against giving to charity, but over the ending of a game? Seriously? I don't even...
I just beat Mass Effect 3, and while I suppose it did have an overall feel of "everything you've done up to this point...might be pointless." I didn't exactly think that the Reapers should just be easily overcome because all of the fleets were working together. Now, I may have felt differently if I hadn't chosen the "Synthesis" ending, but overall I'm pleased with how it was resolved. It didn't leave me wondering what happened to my crew - I saw the Normandy crash on a planet and my crew left the ship. I'm saddened a little that my character can't live happily ever after with his love interest, but I'm also impressed that a game had the balls to kill the main character, even if it was slightly contrived after everything that had happened up to that point.
Shepard resolved the Krogan-Turian-Salarian wars. He got the Geth and Quarians to live peacefully together and gave the Quarians back their homeworld. He united the races of the galaxy in a final push against the Reapers and made them stop their assault. Having him live would be utterly redundant when he was essentially already a god in the (my) game universe. Not giving a secret fourth ending (as far as I know) was a bit disappointing, but I can't complain.
Of course, considering all of the backlash everyone else is throwing out, I won't be surprised if Bioware rushes out some DLC that says "Oh hey everyone, look, Shepard is alive and the galaxy is saved!"
Hell, considering the amount of DLC Mass Effect 2 got I was expecting tons of extra content for Mass Effect 3 anyway, and I was expecting at least one bit to take place after the end of the game.
Wish people would just get over the ME3 endings now. I was disappointed by the endings and ive moved on to play something else. I havnt moaned, whined and bitched about it continuously. Its getting a little pathetic now.
Also Bioware will not make a new ending, and they shouldnt have. No one ever moaned this much about other games endings. If you want a new ending turn the game off as soon as you get zapped and use your imagination. Create your own ending. What will seeing it in an add on really add? Wasnt so long ago every one was bitching about SOPA and freedom of the internet.....and now everyone is trying to force a company to change an ending to their game.
Fallout 3 had an equally terrible ending that everyone hated, I don't know if they got nearly as bad press as this is getting, but they did end up fixing that ending with the Broken Steel DLC, so the change to a games ending is not entirely out of the question
That's exactly what I was going to say. Bravo, sir.
I'm on the side of "giving to charity is good, no matter why you do it." If these people want to complain, then all the better that they do it while supporting a good cause. I don't really believe the founders think they're going to guilt anybody at bioware into doing a new ending.
Although, if they wanted to Broken Steel it up, I can't say I'd complain...
Yeah, I'm gonna have to say fuck you guys. Maybe if you were story writers there and decided that you could do better, then this'd be okay. But no, you're a bunch of whiny, entitled, self-important douchebags. You're consumers buying a form of art (in the same way that movies are art), and when buying art, you have no right to ***** about how shitty it is. You bought someone else's creative work, and if their work is not up to your standards, then that's your loss. It's not their job to remake it to suit your wants.
Buyer beware. You bought their game, you were disappointed, oh well. The world goes on, the company goes on, and the game stays the same. It's not at all their job to rebuild their game from the ground-up just to please people who think they're important enough to have creative control over the game.
My opinion, the most you should get is a "Sorry you didn't enjoy it," and maybe your money back. The refund is seriously pushing it.
Normally, I'd be right there with you complaining, but the problem is, this is a creative work. I'm of the opinion that with creative works, you get what you pay for, and let's hope you like it. If ya do, great. If ya don't, oh well. Either way, I don't think it's right to go and ask someone to change their creative work. ***** about it all you want, just don't ask them to change it. It's not your work, it's not yours to ask for change. Maybe ask for it to be different in the future, but even that is kinda arrogant in my book.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to say fuck you guys. Maybe if you were story writers there and decided that you could do better, then this'd be okay. But no, you're a bunch of whiny, entitled, self-important douchebags. You're consumers buying a form of art (in the same way that movies are art), and when buying art, you have no right to ***** about how shitty it is. You bought someone else's creative work, and if their work is not up to your standards, then that's your loss. It's not their job to remake it to suit your wants.
Buyer beware. You bought their game, you were disappointed, oh well. The world goes on, the company goes on, and the game stays the same. It's not at all their job to rebuild their game from the ground-up just to please people who think they're important enough to have creative control over the game.
My opinion, the most you should get is a "Sorry you didn't enjoy it," and maybe your money back. The refund is seriously pushing it.
Normally, I'd be right there with you complaining, but the problem is, this is a creative work. I'm of the opinion that with creative works, you get what you pay for, and let's hope you like it. If ya do, great. If ya don't, oh well. Either way, I don't think it's right to go and ask someone to change their creative work. ***** about it all you want, just don't ask them to change it. It's not your work, it's not yours to ask for change. Maybe ask for it to be different in the future, but even that is kinda arrogant in my book.
Well there's a difference between demanding that Bioware change the ending, and requesting that they change the ending.
I'm not going to be angry if they don't, but I would like them to. The ending didn't mesh with the theme of the rest of the game and it was just... bad.
No closure, nothing, the only way it could have been worse is if 'it was all a dream'.
I don't say this as a fanboy with stupidly high expectations. I say this as a person who's been with the franchise for several years and actually my favourite franchise, and it's just a shame to see it end this way.
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