Mass Effect Movie: No Femshep, no Seth Green, Original Story.
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Do you mean in terms of money, critical acclaim, or fan satisfaction?TaboriHK said:
The Resident Evil Movies have done OK. I liked Silent Hill.
The potential for a great movie is there with video games (plaing Alice Madness Returns at this time... lots of cinematic potential there.)
If they can make a blockbuster movie series out of an arcade ride (Pirates) they can do so with video games. I look forward to the movie where they really nail it for everyone.
Why? Is it really that important? Male Shepard has been the face of Mass Effect for the past six years. Femshep hasn't. It isn't a matter of them not giving two damns about a female shepard, it's them putting a recognizable face out there to sell more tickets.lockeslylcrit said:
Yep, that's why every action movie, video game, and most novels aimed at teenaged guys have a tough, attractive female protagonist and not a male. It's such a sure seller, that it's amazing they're going with something different and innovative like making a male main character in a movie aimed at young men. Surely, it'll fail as hard as every other movie that's tried that.vrbtny said:
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The fact remains that guys don't like to buy stuff starring women or made by women. The statistics are out there. Over 80% of people who played Mass Effect played a male Shepherd. Most action movies star a man. JK Rowlings was told to make up a middle initial (she doesn't have a middle name) and use initials so that people wouldn't know Harry Potter was written by a woman. Because boys wouldn't buy it then. It's that way because as much as I agree with and wish that sentiments like yours were true, and as much as people loudly proclaim the same, people speak with their wallets. And people don't buy action heroes that are women.
You're pissed off about the lack of a femshep? I'd be annoyed if there was one. Why?
The majority of the playerbase is male, maleshep is still the iconic figure of the series, and it's far more realistic. How so? If they introduce a femshep, then they're going to make her young and sexy, to draw an audience. Shepard is supposed to be older, more experienced, scarred and very tough. Not that there aren't women like that, but rather that I feel that Jessica Alba or Scarlett Johansson flinging themselves around the screen wouldn't exactly encapsulate the essence of the character. Video games are about choice and interactivity, which is what makes them so great. That players *can* pick to be who they are in video games is a wonderful thing, but it doesn't work that way in films, and I really think that they made the right choice here.
As for the original story - as much as I would love to see it in cinema, it wouldn't work. It's too broad, too sweeping, even just throughout the original game - to be well portrayed by a two hour film. Unfortunately, this probably means that we'll be stuck with some shitty sci-fi plot about intergalactic drug smugglers, or the batarians trying to kill everyone.
The only thing I agree with here is that I'll miss Seth Rogen. He really makes the character work. That said, it's not such a massive deal as it's being made to be, so get over it.
The majority of the playerbase is male, maleshep is still the iconic figure of the series, and it's far more realistic. How so? If they introduce a femshep, then they're going to make her young and sexy, to draw an audience. Shepard is supposed to be older, more experienced, scarred and very tough. Not that there aren't women like that, but rather that I feel that Jessica Alba or Scarlett Johansson flinging themselves around the screen wouldn't exactly encapsulate the essence of the character. Video games are about choice and interactivity, which is what makes them so great. That players *can* pick to be who they are in video games is a wonderful thing, but it doesn't work that way in films, and I really think that they made the right choice here.
As for the original story - as much as I would love to see it in cinema, it wouldn't work. It's too broad, too sweeping, even just throughout the original game - to be well portrayed by a two hour film. Unfortunately, this probably means that we'll be stuck with some shitty sci-fi plot about intergalactic drug smugglers, or the batarians trying to kill everyone.
The only thing I agree with here is that I'll miss Seth Rogen. He really makes the character work. That said, it's not such a massive deal as it's being made to be, so get over it.
The only reason people want a fem shepard is cause Jenifer Hall did her voice in the game.Thats not the case with a live action movie.As for them changing the story thats a big sign that its going to flop.That is unless they got a very large budget for nice effects.
Seth green is Joker.I dont care what you think.He would look the part and we all know, plays the part so well no one else will come close.
Seth green is Joker.I dont care what you think.He would look the part and we all know, plays the part so well no one else will come close.
Do people not think that Seth Green might think this is stupid and have declined the role?
Being someone that cannot live up to his video game character in person because directors and writers aren't that cool. All that being said, I will watch it on my laptop with friends and laugh at how pointless it is.
Being someone that cannot live up to his video game character in person because directors and writers aren't that cool. All that being said, I will watch it on my laptop with friends and laugh at how pointless it is.
Heh heh... whoops.Eri said:
Sorry about that, to be fair I did skim to try to make sure I wasn't reposting a thread.
Still, sorry for doing the thing that I kinda tried not to do, bad move on my part.
Yeah, this is my issue with the whole thing. Maybe they're trying to avoid a Final Fantasy movie, but they could get their cake and eat it too if they just said it took place ELSEWHERE IN THE MASS EFFECT UNIVERSE!, since it wouldn't piss off fanboys that much but would still be recognizeable enough for those who care. They could even include several other of the plot cornerstones, like quite a few of the party members and The Annoying Dude.RatRace123 said:
That 40% number if basically pulled out of your ass. Didn't bioware post a list of stats saying like 5% of people used femshep? I know it was at least 20 or under. You could basically predict that it would be male shepard.
Original story is a good thing. Going to watch a Mass Effect movie that follows the games plot would be terribly boring. Especially since ME already tells the story quite well.
No SGreen as Joker is pretty stupid. Either have Joker as Seth or don't have him at all. Don't stick some other retard in his role.
Original story is a good thing. Going to watch a Mass Effect movie that follows the games plot would be terribly boring. Especially since ME already tells the story quite well.
No SGreen as Joker is pretty stupid. Either have Joker as Seth or don't have him at all. Don't stick some other retard in his role.
What? They're actually doing this?
I don't care that they aren't using FemShep; I prefer the canon male version. I'm not even angry (comparatively) that Seth Green isn't going to be in it.
What I'm mad about is that they are making a damn Mass Effect movie in the first place. The 40-hour RPG format simply cannot be properly translated into film. And they already said in the article that the filmmakers will be making a completely new story.
It will not be Mass Effect. You couldn't pay me to go and see this.
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Well, actually, you probably could come up with a sum that would get me to watch it; I'm a bit of a whore like that >_>.
But I wouldn't enjoy it!
I don't care that they aren't using FemShep; I prefer the canon male version. I'm not even angry (comparatively) that Seth Green isn't going to be in it.
What I'm mad about is that they are making a damn Mass Effect movie in the first place. The 40-hour RPG format simply cannot be properly translated into film. And they already said in the article that the filmmakers will be making a completely new story.
It will not be Mass Effect. You couldn't pay me to go and see this.
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Well, actually, you probably could come up with a sum that would get me to watch it; I'm a bit of a whore like that >_>.
But I wouldn't enjoy it!
Every post I've seen out of you has been pure gold. I salute you sir!Daystar Clarion said:
OT: There is SO MUCH that could be done instead of a Mass Effect movie that centres on Shepard. I'd prefer to see a Blasto the Jellyfish movie, or indeed one that focuses on the origin story of one of the characters. I'm thinking Thane. There's so much background that can be used to make a masterpiece of a film that'll satisfy the fans no end. I don't see why you'd crap all over Commander Shepard's story to do it.
QFT.Sixcess said:
Mass Effect simply doesn't strike me as well suited for a movie adaptation. Especially if it uses Shepard. There's just way too much going on, and way too much backstory to explain, to make a decent movie.
Now, if they made a movie out of the First Contact War or the Krogan Rebellion, I'd be behind that 100%. I can definitely see good material coming from there.
ANOTHER "original" story that ruins an existing mythos?! Fuck you, whoever is making that piece of shit film. Snobs like you already ruined Sands of Time, Silent Hill, and Hitman. DIAF.
check here m8 http://comicbookmovie.com/fan_fic/news/?a=18628RatRace123 said:Hello, it's me RatRace123, and as I occasionally do, I'm here to present you with some movie adaptation news filtered through much fanboy rage and bias.
Found this little tidbit of info:
http://kotaku.com/5842345/there-will-be-no-female-shepard-seth-green-or-video-game-stories-in-the-mass-effect-movie
Apparently, the Mass Effect movie will indeed star a Male Shepard, will feature an original story rather than adapting the plotline from the game; and perhaps most distressing of all, will not feature Seth Green as Joker. From what I gather, Joker will be in the film, but not played by Green.
This, for some reason, really pisses me off. Maybe it's just that the idea of a Mass Effect movie isn't something I'm too into anyway, but this casting decision just feels kinda wrong.
Is it because he doesn't look the part?
Yeah, totally don't see any resemblance there.
I know that a Mass Effect movie will probably end up doing, at least moderately well regardless of critical opinion...
But, word of mouth hype, especially for an adaption of a fan favored property, goes along way towards determining the overall success of the film.
It's still early in pre-production but they need to do something that will please the fanbase. Even if it's not entirely necessary. I can best equate it to casting Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime in the Transformers movies.
Did they need to do that? No, and they seemed to be able to recast all the other Autobots just fine, but throwing the fandom a bone like that definitely earned the film a lot of positive buzz.
The exact same kind of buzz that a potentially high profile project like Mass Effect needs.
It's already got a lot of things working against it:
-It's a game adaptation, which never rise beyond the level of "eh, 'salright."
-It stars Commander Shepard (The customizable player character in an open ended game) rather than working off of other ideas in the shared universe (of which there could potentially be an infinite amount)
-Specifically it stars Male Commander Shepard, which risks further alienating the 40 or so percent of the fanbase that prefers Femshep.
-And now, we know that Seth Green won't be reprising his role.
Like I said, it's still early, but there's not much here that looks all that appealing. They need some positive hype out there, and the easiest way to do that IMO, is in the casting.
I may be overreacting, in fact I am, and I'm nowhere near as pissed as my ranting may lead you to believe, but the whole situation still rubs me the wrong way.
Joker's a fairly important character and is one of the few characters who could realistically be portrayed in film by his voice actor, and to have him not just seems like a stupid desicion.
Any thoughts on this? Discuss.
Edit: The statistic for FemShep players is actually closer to 20%, but no one can deny that they aren't a damn dedicated 20%. My argument still stands, but this was a problem they knew they were going to have to face when they decided to use Shepard as the film's protagonist. Shepard's gender doesn't actually bother me, the inclusion of Shepard as the main character kind of does, but my rant is really more about the casting issue. If they must make it a story about Shepard, with Shepard's crew, at least have the correct casting.
they have a good variety picks for casting ^^
The statistics are a bit distorted by that only 50% of the players actually finished the game, which basically makes at least half of the playerbase "non-fans" by definition.Irridium said:
Of course we can only speculate on how big a portion of those "non-fans" played a male Shepard, or if they'd be interested in seeing the movie. (On the opposite side of things, I'm a pretty hardcore Mass Effect fan, but I'm really not that interested in the movie.)
So much ignored potential in IP like this.
Making an entertaining film with the spirit of the video game isn't hard to do, yet the only films that I could say even came close to doing that was Max Payne and Tomb Raider, all incredibly mediocre titles.
Having seen things like the original Fallout script treatment (which I could safely say would translate to a very, very nice film), I still believe that a great videogame film adaptation will happen someday.
Someday. Maybe not even in my lifetime, but it'll happen.
Making an entertaining film with the spirit of the video game isn't hard to do, yet the only films that I could say even came close to doing that was Max Payne and Tomb Raider, all incredibly mediocre titles.
Having seen things like the original Fallout script treatment (which I could safely say would translate to a very, very nice film), I still believe that a great videogame film adaptation will happen someday.
Someday. Maybe not even in my lifetime, but it'll happen.