Mass effect trilogy turning into the next Halo series??

[r0manz]

I hope that Mass Effect 3 will be awesome. However, after the mediocre title that Mass Effect 2 was I really don't have much faith in the Mass Effect series.
If Bioware had marketed it as a third person shooter with some roleplaying elements I wouldn't be saying that, but as I remember it the first Mass Effect was a pretty good RPG. Everything I remember that I liked about ME1 was taken away from ME2 (except the dialog trees of course). The unlimited ammo approach to the combat truly felt futuristic, the Mako was a bit buggy but was great fun. Also, in his latest column Yahtzee mentioned how walking to the door of the Normandy added to the immersion, which is entirely true.

I agree that Bioware kinda fucked up with the

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Human Reaper

. Don't really have high hopes for ME3.

Edit: tl;dr ME and Halo are entirely different. Bioware > Microsoft imho.

 

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[Thaius]

sure it's epic but it makes as much sense as an african nation in the winter olympics!!

Dude, did you even see Cool Runnings?

OT: Honestly, hype means nothing. Hype means that people are excited for the game, and that's it. People give it way too much importance.

Mass Effect 3 will most likely be a great game, it will likely be hyped, and it will likely be really good regardless of said hype.

 

[Plazmatic]

was halo 3 really marketed that much more then 2? I swear I remember seeing more ads and hype for 2 then 3

Thats because you were like "meh" when halo 3 was came out, and didn't pay attention.

Actually you might be right, I don't know, I can't remember.

sure it's epic but it makes as much sense as an african nation in the winter olympics!!

Dude, did you even see Cool Runnings?

OT: Honestly, hype means nothing. Hype means that people are excited for the game, and that's it. People give it way too much importance.

Mass Effect 3 will most likely be a great game, it will likely be hyped, and it will likely be really good regardless of said hype.

JAMAICA IS NOT A AFRICAN COUNTRY! How many times do we have to say it?

 

[Hiphophippo]

Sir.

SIR.

Sir.

I do not appreciate your suggestion that Africans can not do well in the Winter Olympics. Goddamnit, while it's a different country did Cool Runnings teach you anything?

*wipes away tear* John Candy must be rolling over in his oversized grave.

OT: come on, it's Bioware. Look at their track record. Then examine Bungie's.

They know what they're doing.

Didn't Bungie make the Myth series before they sucked at the teet of mediocrity? Those were pretty good games.

true but bioware makes nothing but good games.

You'll find no argument here on that point. I just wanted to point out the regardless of how people feel about Halo, Bungie has made some pretty great games.

 

[jenx_137]

The flaw in your logic is that Mass Effect is a actually a great game where Halo was average.

Bioware has already said that they will not make any more than 3. If they wanted to expand on the Universe than an MMO would be perfect for it. I can't see a company like Bioware staying on with Mass Effect much longer.

Halo wasn't average, the main campaign was really fun imo. though I did think the multiplayer was a bit sub-par, but thats cos I could never get into it. and most of the time I would get owned by snotty 10 year olds xD

I'd love to see some sort of RTS in the ME universe, spesh after the battle at the end of ME1! and preferably better than halo wars (another halo comparison, sorry!). no idea how they'd do it though.

 

[Srkkl]

No no no no no. A human reaper is about as stupid as Soverign being modeled after the other organic race the reapers whiped out 50,000(?) years ago, I really don't see a plot hole there unless you weren't paying attention. Also no it wont be like Halo because it (in my oppinion) lived up to the hype. The rpg elements were kind of dumbed down but not so much that when you got to level 30 everything was maxed out which left replays just as fun and different each time. Also it won't be like the Halo trilogy because the second (again in my oppinion) actually improved on the first game a lot.

 

[Srkkl]

NEVER compare that over-hyped POS cookie cutter FPS series to anything Bioware does again, ever. Or I will gouge your eyes out with a rusty spork. Yes, a rusty SPORK.

Oh and this, thank you sir for posting what most everyone was thinking but was too afraid to say. (Damn Ultrajoe and his big brother esque presence.)

 

[Souplex]

I've actually heard an explanation for your plot hole

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Since Sovereign was killed, there were no reapers left in the galaxy to activate the citadel and allow the Reapers to quickly jump into the galaxy and commence the harvesting. The reapers decided to create another one by putting their Collectors to work, since other species wouldn't find it that rare that the Collectors were abducting and since humanity was one of the few races making isolated colonies in the unexplored and dangerous Termanious system. The number of humans abducted compared to the total number of beings in the galaxy would be the equivalent of a small village of about 20 or so people in some remote place vanishing. It was actually a more perfect plan than I've seen in most other videogames in terms of Armageddon being unleashed.

well yer that makes sense, but why oh why...

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was it shaped like a human?? yes they were making it out of humans, but a spaceship shaped like a human just doesn't make sense! and why do reapers need organic parts to create more of them? Bioware better have a great reason for that rather jarring ending!

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Skeleton structor to be contained in a shell much like the other Reapers, though I'm betting it would probably keep the arms rather than the tentacles of the others. If you remember, Soveriegn was huge. Those lights on the citadel walls are freaking city blocks so you can compare size by looking behind it and when a small tentacle crashed into the council's room, it took out the whole huge room despite it being maybe the tip of a small leg. The reaper might actually be piloting that huge frame on the inside with that terminator body. Also, it's been millions of years since a Reaper was constructed, they probably don't have the blue prints of the old ones anymore, only the method of making new ones through the use of genocide. There are actually a lot of reasons you can make for why it would have a human form. However, Harbinger left before he could give us any ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL

According to the codex, Sovereign was two kilometers long.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

I have hopes that Bioware will take the advice that many fans (including me) have been leaving on their forums. MORE RPG ELEMENTS!!! Anyway, it will be awesome and perfect... I hope.

Oh yeah, because that worked out sooooo well that last time
/sarcasm

OT:Well I hardly think this is going the way of Halo. Besides I didn't notice any of those plotholes you mentioned, unless you're referring to the plotholes that resulted from the changes in gameplay.

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As for the human reaper, they had to come up with some reason that the Reapers kept harvesting organic life every 50,000 years and reproduction seems like a good enough reason as any. The only part the doesn't make sense is that when you ask Sovereign about it in the first game, he's like "it is beyond your understanding" or something to that effect. But that's probably because Bioware hadn't come up with anything yet.

Besides didn't Halo 2 have a really crappy ending? I don't know about anyone else, but I was reasonably satisfied with the ending to ME2. Admittedly I've faced harder final boss fights, but then I took out Sovereign-possessed-Saren pretty easily too.

 

[Eleima]

I think ME 3 will live up to any hype it gets. Why? Look at ME 2. Hyped up to no end, and in my opinion came through in spades. Massive improvement in almost everything. Not to mention, Bioware has made it very clear that they listen to us. We bitched about so much in Mass Effect 1 and they busted their asses to try and make it better for us. Who's to say they won't listen to what few gripes we have with Mass Effect 2 and try and improve even more? I think its safe to say that Mass Effect 3 will blow our minds (in a good way).

Amen to that!! I don't think I could've said it better myself. I loved ME1, adored ME2 (which I awaited with some trepidation, I might add), and I'm sure I'll enjoy ME3 too. Tht's just Bioware's style: what they promise, they deliver. And they rock.

 

[jenx_137]

I think ME 3 will live up to any hype it gets. Why? Look at ME 2. Hyped up to no end, and in my opinion came through in spades. Massive improvement in almost everything. Not to mention, Bioware has made it very clear that they listen to us. We bitched about so much in Mass Effect 1 and they busted their asses to try and make it better for us. Who's to say they won't listen to what few gripes we have with Mass Effect 2 and try and improve even more? I think its safe to say that Mass Effect 3 will blow our minds (in a good way).

Amen to that!! I don't think I could've said it better myself. I loved ME1, adored ME2 (which I awaited with some trepidation, I might add), and I'm sure I'll enjoy ME3 too. Tht's just Bioware's style: what they promise, they deliver. And they rock.

Well Bioware have a sparkling record, and I hope you guys'll be right. just a scary thought that all the praise/hype/whatever might go to their head and somehow ruin the next game.

but then Im a cynical bastard.

 

[Lost In The Void]

I'll take your word on that; never played them. But look at the time between the original Myth and Halo 2 (arguably the beginning of the end for Bungie). That was about seven years, give or take. At that rate, we've got quite a while before Bioware starts to slide.

Actually, since Bioware's first game was in '96, though I never played, and their first good game I've played myself was Baldur's Gate coming out in '98, it's been at least 12 years of great gaming by Bioware. Maybe they will start to slide at some point, but I highly doubt it. Bioware isn't going to follow the same route as Bungie because for one, they aren't that controlled by EA; they usually are allowed to do their own thing, and second; their writers can make a compelling story out of nearly anything, thus making a Bioware fanboy happy.

 

[Brad Shepard]

I read this and thought "Whoever put this up should be shot" NO! this wont happen, Bioware is not like this, if they where, they would still be doing fucking Star Wars games.

 

[Koganesaga]

Well unlike Halo, Mass Effect is the end to the series (so help me if Bioware doesn't stop this and make a KOTOR instead), as for how the game will turn out, that's entirely going to be based on the feedback the fans give, so intelligent people speak now before the swarms of uneducated trend followers give their game ruining ideas.

Off Topic: At the end of Halo 3, master chief cannot truly be declared dead, as the capsule he shut himself in drifted to some strange planet, so he'll likely be showing his ugly mug again some time soon after the fan base can't take playing as regular humans anymore.

 

[elemenetal150]

this thread should have been called....opinion of OP turning into next nobody cares thread??

 

[mambodog]

The Mass Effect trilogy has no chance of becoming another Halo because it ACTUALLY HAS GOOD WRITING.

Also: big sequels generally do better, see Modern Warfare 2. Games publishers probably learned this from the movie biz. Recent examples include: The Dark Knight, Pirates of the Caribbean 2, Transformers 2.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_film_sequels_by_box-office_improvement

 

[BolognaBaloney]

it makes as much sense as an african nation in the winter olympics!!

Racist little punk...

He's referring to geographical absurdities, not race. Even though Jamaica is in the Caribbean.