I've recently been finding myself listening to a lot of between the buried and me, specifically there last two albums "colors" and "the great misdirect". As well as their new ep "The Parallax: Hypersleep Dialogues"
You know interesting people then. And yeah, sure, brand me ignorant or an elitist snob, it doesn't really matter to me.MiracleOfSound said:Straw-manning won't work here. Converting me isn't the issue.
The issue is you claiming that only kids or pop fans enjoy Slipknot.
Some of the biggest metalheads I know love Slipknot - older dudes who've been listening to metal longer than most people on this forum.
Basically - you're just being an elitist snob.
Considering the genre has been going for pretty much 40 years now (I'm basing that from Black Sabbath btw) that statement is indeed a load of bollocks >_> Obvious troll is...wolfcrab said:>Listening to metal
Huh i guess everyone on the escapist is 15 years old.
don't forget 2 Minutes to Midnight, a staple style of most power metal. Just like Bark at the Moon by Ozzy Osbourne. Very influential.MiracleOfSound said:I saw the thread title and came on to post this very song... but you beat me to it.Arsen said:Iron Maiden - Hallowed Be Thy Name
It truly is. It's one of the most influential, if not the most influential, album in metal.RockWhore said:Vulgar Display of Power is a truly great album. After all these years Walk still sends a chill down my spine. One of the few that still do after such a long time...Fade to Black and One by Metallica still do that too.
Aggressive energy. Distorted guitars. Loud drums. Staccato picking. Harsh or loud, screamed vocals. Catharsis. Comradery through artistic expression.SmashLovesTitanQuest said:No. I could not disagree more with that statement.
We can agree that metal is a genre so broad and vast with so many different subgenres and blurry boarders that at the end of the day its silly to argue whats metal and whats not, but you cant just say its got the "metal feel". What do you think is the metal feel?
So how then, do you define metal?SmashLovesTitanQuest said:My 10 favourite metal bands, of the top of my head, are all completely different, have completely different lyrical themes, have a different message and a different feeling. There is no overarching feeling that all metal conveys. There isnt even a feeling that 50% of metal brings with it.
Thats what I feel about the subject.
It's not about aggressive energy, it's energy as a whole (and very few bands actually convey a message of aggression). Metal in general is defined by these things you said, that's why slipknot, korn, disturbed etc are branded Nu-METAL, but it's not "real" metal. They use really simplistic 2-3 note melodies, which is traditional in popular music in general (pop, rap etc). That's why people compare metal to classical music, it uses very varied, very beautiful melodies in layers upon layers. Like classical music, metal needs mastery in your chosen instrument and a mind for musical composition.MiracleOfSound said:snip
So how then, do you define metal?
No, it really doesn't.Tragedy said:. They use really simplistic 2-3 note melodies, which is traditional in popular music in general (pop, rap etc). That's why people compare metal to classical music, it uses very varied, very beautiful melodies in layers upon layers. Like classical music, metal needs mastery in your chosen instrument and a mind for musical composition.
That's a really old song (pre- Vulgar Display of Power) and you can't really give it as an example. And Black Sabbath are one of the fore fathers of metal, so of course they can't be symphony grade quality, that's like saying "Great, you discovered fire! Now make me a flamethrower"MiracleOfSound said:No, it really doesn't.Tragedy said:. They use really simplistic 2-3 note melodies, which is traditional in popular music in general (pop, rap etc). That's why people compare metal to classical music, it uses very varied, very beautiful melodies in layers upon layers. Like classical music, metal needs mastery in your chosen instrument and a mind for musical composition.
Metal can be simplistic as fuck and still be metal.