Well... that's pretty racist. And... uh wow.Darkstorm13 said:
Where the fuck did that come from?
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Where the fuck did that come from?
I'm just waiting for this guy to snap again, maybe take a life. Then the idiots who let him off with no charges can know they're responsible for someones death, 'cause they thought a psycho was in the right.
Good to see the logic we've got going here with some people. Someone pushes you, you break their legs.
Someone slaps you, you bash their face in.
Someone punches you, you rip their heart out and scream, "Kali ma"
Good to see the logic we've got going here with some people. Someone pushes you, you break their legs.
Someone slaps you, you bash their face in.
Someone punches you, you rip their heart out and scream, "Kali ma"
Wait wait wait wait..... Where the fuck did all this common sense come from all of a sudden?
I've regained a little bit of faith in humanity. What an odd feeling. This is all new to me.
Maybe there is yet hope for this silly species. Who would have thought.
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QUICK !!!! Some one bring me some bad news D:
All these warm and fuzzy feelings are making me uneasy.
I've regained a little bit of faith in humanity. What an odd feeling. This is all new to me.
Maybe there is yet hope for this silly species. Who would have thought.
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QUICK !!!! Some one bring me some bad news D:
All these warm and fuzzy feelings are making me uneasy.
The thing you are missing is that he was outnumbered, so that justified the use of a weapon, and they jumped the counter to attack him. It was clear self defence, he backed away, THEY freaked out. Calling upon his past is irrelevant, as it had nothing to do with this case. If anything it showed the rehabilitation worked as he didn't beat them to death.Caramel Frappe said:
Also I read somewhere that the murder was actually a misfire from careless handling, not an out an out murder. I don't remember the source though
they didn't just slap him, they then proceeded to jump over the counter at him to press the attack! It's not like they just slapped him and he went apeshit on them! They hit him, and then advanced on him, again literally climbing over the counter. that's assault.Asuka Soryu said:
if multiple people hit him, then proceeded to approach him, then he is legally able to defend himself under those conditions. If it results in the perps accidental death, so be it. As long as he didn't execute them, he would be legally clear. I doubt most of the people causing an uproar would be as mad at him if it were two burly men that jumped the counterDags90 said:
that's sexism.
sorry for the triple post
So what? He could've simply sought help from other employees? Had them thrown out on their asses. I'm pretty sure the two of them couldn't handle the entire staff, they could've restrained them and called the cops.Darkmantle said:
But no, he went back, got a metal bar and rather then waving it while telling them to back off, he took the initiative, bashed her to the ground then procceeded to go for more.
They were wrong, but he was even more wrong. People act like he was a victim. He started out a victim, he then upped it. He himself became no longer a victim but the assailant. He in no way deserves to get away scott free. The ass hole needs psychiatric help and to be put away where he won't go off again.
So, how many people have to die before this guy's no longer a 'victim'
He'll go off again. Those two aren't the only ones who'll probably push, won't know his history... then he'll go and repeat this, but maybe they won't survive like these two.
Despite what you may like, using physical violence, and then jumping over the counter, is straight up assault. He grabbed a weapon and told them to back off, they didn't. He tried to defend himself non-violently, although threateningly, and when that failed he resorted to violence. Perhaps had the other employees tried to intervene before* it came to blows, he wouldn't have had to do that.Asuka Soryu said:
And legally, he is completely in the right.
I also feel like most people would change their tune* if it were two burly guys that attacked him. Which of course would be sexist and unequal under the law.
If he goes through some kind of rehabilitation or court-ordered psychiatry, than I feel that the court system has done all they can.
The man obviously doesn't deserve to get sent back to jail, and the woman obviously didn't deserve to get smacked in the head so many times.
Likely, the man won't be able to find a job after this incident as employers are allowed to be biased based on previous crimes (even though they aren't on any other basis) and while I don't he should get a job involving customers any time soon, he should still be allowed to get a job.
That's the thing I find sickening is people's reactions to people who have been convicted of crimes.
I don't care if he murdered a student, or if he murdered 30 students, as far as I'm concerned, he did his time.
Those words need to sink into the populace. Did their time means that they have been punished properly for their crimes in the eyes of the courts. Did their time means they are FORGIVEN by the populace as a whole for whatever crime they might have committed.
My question to my fellow escapists is this: Why should we even let people out of prison in the first place if we're just going to convict them for the rest of their lives?
The man obviously doesn't deserve to get sent back to jail, and the woman obviously didn't deserve to get smacked in the head so many times.
Likely, the man won't be able to find a job after this incident as employers are allowed to be biased based on previous crimes (even though they aren't on any other basis) and while I don't he should get a job involving customers any time soon, he should still be allowed to get a job.
That's the thing I find sickening is people's reactions to people who have been convicted of crimes.
I don't care if he murdered a student, or if he murdered 30 students, as far as I'm concerned, he did his time.
Those words need to sink into the populace. Did their time means that they have been punished properly for their crimes in the eyes of the courts. Did their time means they are FORGIVEN by the populace as a whole for whatever crime they might have committed.
My question to my fellow escapists is this: Why should we even let people out of prison in the first place if we're just going to convict them for the rest of their lives?
I feel like that's the real issue many people have. He beat down two ass hole women. If it had been two guys, this guy would be praised as a hero. It really annoys me.Olrod said:
Actually, this is quite interesting in the comment you've made to me and another person, you seem to keep bringing up sexism. That's very interesting.Darkmantle said:
Now, you may be assuming that I'd differ if it was a woman bashing a guys skull in, you'd be quite wrong. The fact that they elevated this violence to this far is quite disturbing, and I think neither party was right, but I'll be damned if I think this person should be devoid of all charges. Based on his actions, based on his previous crime, I very well doubt that he's only hitting her with the bar in self-defense. You could argue it was irrational self-defense, but it's obvious he took it beyond that. The man shouldn't be free, he should be forced to seek help. I'd be more inclined to believe this was self-defense if it was someone who had a past where they didn't kill someone and go to jail.
Argue all you want, I'm not justifying the womens actions, I'm merely seeing both parties as hprroble, not as one man desperately saving his ass from women about to kill him in cold blood.
Why do people keep saying "a highschooler"? he was in highschool at the time. They were around the same age? Not saying that makes it ok but its not like he went to a highschool to kill kids. trust me when i say when sometimes people in highschool will do far worse then what he did. not saying he was provoked then but you cant condemn someone when all you know is someone died. unless you know what happened shut up about it. who says he was in the wrong then? yes he seems to have anger problems but the only things we know about him is he loses control when provoked whats to say he wasnt back then?
I am glad he isn't being charged with anything too excessive but something like excessive force in self defense (sounds like something you would charge someone with but I am not actually sure if it is or not) would be appropriate. Yes he was effectively under attack and some retaliation would be wholly justified, however he definitely went overboard. That being said I am all for second chances I do think that prison is not the answer in this case. Therapy, maybe a small fine, is much more fitting.
Or maybe it's just that they're American. Either way, if the girls didn't have an "I'm the fucking queen of everything" attitude like black girls tend to, they wouldn't have slapped him and jumped over the counter. Somehow I just can't imagine any white person going that far, certainly not in my country anywayJoesshittyOs said:
This is a bad situation, the girls should be charged to the full extent of the law despite any injuries they sustained but the guy did go to far and shouldn't be let off free and clear. He should get mandatory therapy and maybe some house arrest of a hefty fine, both would probably be the best choice.
With his history he should not have been the cashier. That would have solved the problem most likely. If the other employees had stepped in and stopped the girls from attacking him or the manager had been paying attention and came up to inspect the bill as is his/her job that may have diffused the situation as well.
My opinion both parties messed and should be punished. And the manager who would put that fellow on the cash register should be fired.
With his history he should not have been the cashier. That would have solved the problem most likely. If the other employees had stepped in and stopped the girls from attacking him or the manager had been paying attention and came up to inspect the bill as is his/her job that may have diffused the situation as well.
My opinion both parties messed and should be punished. And the manager who would put that fellow on the cash register should be fired.
... Wow.Darkstorm13 said:
Yeah. Good noble White people would never go that far, but a lowly black person certainly would. White power, am I right?
People like you disgust me. But looking at your low post count, I'm gonna assume you're just a troll.
Just seen the video and learnt that he has a criminal past and had been in jail for 10years because he shot and killed someone he went to school with.
This guys isn't right in the head, and honestly, he shouldn't of been working there, it's like this was waiting to happen. He should be charged and punished with jail time. I don't think it's safe to keep him in public places and mixing with people, he comes across as having serious anger issues that seriously need to be addressed.
As for the Women, they were complete, apparently dunk, assholes, who stared this and should also been charged, but now one has a skull fracture and life may never be the same. And it's OK for someone to get away with this? Nope.
All were in the wrong, all should be charged. But sadly it all ended terribly with one person not having the same life again.
This guys isn't right in the head, and honestly, he shouldn't of been working there, it's like this was waiting to happen. He should be charged and punished with jail time. I don't think it's safe to keep him in public places and mixing with people, he comes across as having serious anger issues that seriously need to be addressed.
As for the Women, they were complete, apparently dunk, assholes, who stared this and should also been charged, but now one has a skull fracture and life may never be the same. And it's OK for someone to get away with this? Nope.
All were in the wrong, all should be charged. But sadly it all ended terribly with one person not having the same life again.