McDonald's incident

[-Samurai-]

and what have the coworkers get fired over it? you know theyd get fired for even touching her

They wouldn't get fired for touching a customer if she is acting hostile towards them

yes they can, youre not allowed to even look a customer in the eye without their permission lest you get a beatdown for making the customer mad

I'm pretty damn sure that if they're attacking a coworker, you're allowed to restrain the customer. If not, too bad, they should be doing it anyways.

and get arrested and fired?

i dont think you know retail

Okay, I'm calling bullshit arrested part. I may not know retail, but I know law and restraining a dangerous individual is not against the law.

And I don't care. If I was the manager of that area, I would not fire that person and I have a feeling that the shift leader (Who is standing right there in the red) probably wouldn't fire them in the end either. In a normal situation, you cannot touch a customer. This however, is not a normal situation.

In any job where you work with the public, you're instructed on how to handle these situations, and touching the customer in any way is an immediate loss of employment. It doesn't matter if you're the cashier or the manager. The only thing you can do is call the police.

Most people feel that it isn't worth risking their job to stop something like this, and they're right. You won't get hired by anyone else if you can't follow the rules, and the rules in these situations are pretty clear.

And as far as the law goes, if you restrain even a dangerous criminal, you can(and likely will) become the target of a lawsuit. And more often than not, the criminal will win.

The only sure fire way to get out of a situation like this, as just an observer, is to call the police. You keep your job, you don't get sued, and the proper authorities will handle the rest.

 

[RaikuFA]

and what have the coworkers get fired over it? you know theyd get fired for even touching her

They wouldn't get fired for touching a customer if she is acting hostile towards them

yes they can, youre not allowed to even look a customer in the eye without their permission lest you get a beatdown for making the customer mad

I'm pretty damn sure that if they're attacking a coworker, you're allowed to restrain the customer. If not, too bad, they should be doing it anyways.

and get arrested and fired?

i dont think you know retail

Okay, I'm calling bullshit arrested part. I may not know retail, but I know law and restraining a dangerous individual is not against the law.

And I don't care. If I was the manager of that area, I would not fire that person and I have a feeling that the shift leader (Who is standing right there in the red) probably wouldn't fire them in the end either. In a normal situation, you cannot touch a customer. This however, is not a normal situation.

In any job where you work with the public, you're instructed on how to handle these situations, and touching the customer in any way is an immediate loss of employment. It doesn't matter if you're the cashier or the manager. The only thing you can do is call the police.

Most people feel that it isn't worth risking their job to stop something like this, and they're right. You won't get hired by anyone else if you can't follow the rules, and the rules in these situations are pretty clear.

And as far as the law goes, if you restrain even a dangerous criminal, you can(and likely will) become the target of a lawsuit. And more often than not, the criminal will win.

The only sure fire way to get out of a situation like this, as just an observer, is to call the police. You keep your job, you don't get sued, and the proper authorities will handle the rest.

basically this, that or you can hope another customer can do it(a man can dream)

 

[MASTACHIEFPWN]

DOUBLE KILL!

And that's what you get for fighting with a murderer!

But yeah, the 2 girls deserved it. What were they trying to do anyway? beat him until he took there money?
I mean, they got what was coming to them.

For the dude, at first it was self defence, but when they were both on the ground, probably suffering in an overcoming amount of pain from being hit in the face with a fucking metal bar, and he continued on beating them... yeah that's a little wrong...

 

[Sonicron]

Funny how stuff like that doesn't happen here. Makes you think there's something in the water over there. -.-

Nope. You guys just start riots and fight with police at soccer games. That's soooooo much better.

... Huh? Riots...? Are you sure you're not mistaking me for an Englishman? :\

 

[Dr. Crawver]

They deserved to be beaten with a metal rod? That's too much for me to believe they deserved it. Honestly, that's a whole lot of violence to have "deserved it" in my book.
Then again, almost any amount of violence is too much for me so...

lol, this is even more appropriate given your Fluttershy avatar xD

Are you trying to say that Fluttershy wouldn't, as they say, "smack a hoe"?

Fluttershy wrestles with bears

Now now, you're selling her short. Not only does she wrestle bears, she also: Made an Adult Dragon cry, stared down a Cockatrice and survived, waltzed into a Hydra's den do drop off some frogs, caused a riot in Canterlot, caused a riot in Ponyville, tamed a Manticore, and stole the Princess's pet Phoenix.

yep, fluttershy is totally badass. Only thing she can't do is call in a sonic rainuke

 

[Woodsey]

Girls acted like twats, but twats still don't deserve to have their skulls bashed in with a metal rod.

This stupid fucking "eye for an eye" attitude of retarded 14-year-olds on the internet is not even funny to read anymore.

What's wrong with "An eye for an eye"? It's the best way to get the "Treat others as you wish to be treated" rule across.

Because its how little kids behave. Its the best way to get "I'm a childish moron," across, that's about it.

 

[jpoon]

Damn, that moron is obviously right back where he should be (in jail). Looks like McDumpster's was a bit too stressful for that guy.

Yes, blame the mentally unstable guy with anger issues that two stunned cunts penned him behind the counter and tried to assault him verbally and physically because they had a counterfeit $50 in their purse.

That makes so much sense.

Yeah, you're so obviously right. Now that I think about it the only way he could have handled that situation was to beat the women mercilessly with a metal stick, it was so obvious I don't know how I missed it. Give this guy a raise, not jail time!

I just love how you rationalize the situation from your own perspective.

He's MENTALLY UNSTABLE. You can't say 'he could have acted this way' simply because his brain doesn't work that way.

If you want to hold ignorant, self-righteous opinions, at least try to form them in a NON-personalized way. That way, at least, you're justifiably self-righteous.

Whatever pal, rationalize the looney's attack all you want. I'm just saying, he's getting what he deserves...another long vacation from the real world

He should be in an institution, getting help with his obvious mental issues, not in prison, making them FAR worse than they are now.

Surely they'll be looking into institutionalizing him quite aggressively this time, being that this isn't his first horribly violent offense.

And you think he should be put in prison, with the key thrown far, far away, letting him absorb the violent atmosphere that EVERY prison on the planet produces, in the hopes that he will, somehow, come out of it rehabilitated?

Or is this genuine interest in trying to get him help?

I really wouldn't give a damn either way, so long as he's not on the streets.

Wow, you care SO much for the well-being of your fellow man... Wait... Nevermind, I don't either, I just can't take it when people are so ignorant.

So because I don't give a shit for a random violent (mentally unstable) criminal, I'm ignorant? Whatever, I guess then sure I'm ignorant...but he's still back where he needs to be so it all works out in the end.

 

[-Samurai-]

Funny how stuff like that doesn't happen here. Makes you think there's something in the water over there. -.-

Nope. You guys just start riots and fight with police at soccer games. That's soooooo much better.

... Huh? Riots...? Are you sure you're not mistaking me for an Englishman? :\

Are you really gonna sit there and say that Germany doesn't have stupid people that do stupid things? I seem to recall a few news stories of riots in Germany after they lost in the 2010 World Cup semi-finals.

There are a few Youtube videos of German people fighting with police at soccer games as well. And I'm sure that if I sat in on your local news for a bit, I could find things equally as bad as our McDonalds Incident here.

Germany is no better or worse than anywhere else when it comes to having stupid people.

 

[TheDooD]

and what have the coworkers get fired over it? you know theyd get fired for even touching her

They wouldn't get fired for touching a customer if she is acting hostile towards them

yes they can, youre not allowed to even look a customer in the eye without their permission lest you get a beatdown for making the customer mad

I'm pretty damn sure that if they're attacking a coworker, you're allowed to restrain the customer. If not, too bad, they should be doing it anyways.

and get arrested and fired?

i dont think you know retail

Okay, I'm calling bullshit arrested part. I may not know retail, but I know law and restraining a dangerous individual is not against the law.

And I don't care. If I was the manager of that area, I would not fire that person and I have a feeling that the shift leader (Who is standing right there in the red) probably wouldn't fire them in the end either. In a normal situation, you cannot touch a customer. This however, is not a normal situation.

In any job where you work with the public, you're instructed on how to handle these situations, and touching the customer in any way is an immediate loss of employment. It doesn't matter if you're the cashier or the manager. The only thing you can do is call the police.

Most people feel that it isn't worth risking their job to stop something like this, and they're right. You won't get hired by anyone else if you can't follow the rules, and the rules in these situations are pretty clear.

And as far as the law goes, if you restrain even a dangerous criminal, you can(and likely will) become the target of a lawsuit. And more often than not, the criminal will win.

The only sure fire way to get out of a situation like this, as just an observer, is to call the police. You keep your job, you don't get sued, and the proper authorities will handle the rest.

The messed up thing you might get fired either way. If he just let'em jump the counter and wreck the back, toss around food and equipment. You can bet you'll hear the higher ups bitching about "Why didn't you stop it, You know that stuff costs a lot of money, etc". Or he just let them beat on him because his hands are tied since it's 2 vs 1 anything can happen. You might get fired because he looks like he couldn't handle yourself. If he wanted to sue he'll most likely lose because of 1 women beat him down and or McDonald is gonna swoop in with a settlement so fast he won't get a chance. The cops can't get there fast enough that's 5-15 min wait, anything can happen during that time. Plus why in the hell didn't anybody else co-workers or other wise called the cops until AFTER shit was taken too far.

When it comes to me. If you're being violent and you jump or come behind the counter. You're gonna get your ass beat. The customer has no right to harm me, my co-workers and or the equipment I'm working with. Excessive force? They're still alive aren't they? Don't cross a line if you aren't able to hold it simple as that.

 

[Sonicron]

Funny how stuff like that doesn't happen here. Makes you think there's something in the water over there. -.-

Nope. You guys just start riots and fight with police at soccer games. That's soooooo much better.

... Huh? Riots...? Are you sure you're not mistaking me for an Englishman? :\

Are you really gonna sit there and say that Germany doesn't have stupid people that do stupid things? I seem to recall a few news stories of riots in Germany after they lost in the 2010 World Cup semi-finals.

There are a few Youtube videos of German people fighting with police at soccer games as well. And I'm sure that if I sat in on your local news for a bit, I could find things equally as bad as our McDonalds Incident here.

Germany is no better or worse than anywhere else when it comes to having stupid people.

Sure we have stupid people around here. Lots of 'em, in fact. But I keep up with the news, both the serious and the less serious, and we don't usually have customers attacking staff in a restaurant (or any other place, for that matter). I don't know, maybe we have things here you'd consider equally as bad, or even much worse, but to me this particular incident just screams 'extra strength crazy'.

As for the soccer thing, it's sports. People go nuts over sports events, it's a universal fact.

In any case, as much as it is my right to have this opinion, there was no need for me to express it in the way I did. It was offensive, and I apologize for that.

 

[Darius Brogan]

Damn, that moron is obviously right back where he should be (in jail). Looks like McDumpster's was a bit too stressful for that guy.

Yes, blame the mentally unstable guy with anger issues that two stunned cunts penned him behind the counter and tried to assault him verbally and physically because they had a counterfeit $50 in their purse.

That makes so much sense.

Yeah, you're so obviously right. Now that I think about it the only way he could have handled that situation was to beat the women mercilessly with a metal stick, it was so obvious I don't know how I missed it. Give this guy a raise, not jail time!

I just love how you rationalize the situation from your own perspective.

He's MENTALLY UNSTABLE. You can't say 'he could have acted this way' simply because his brain doesn't work that way.

If you want to hold ignorant, self-righteous opinions, at least try to form them in a NON-personalized way. That way, at least, you're justifiably self-righteous.

Whatever pal, rationalize the looney's attack all you want. I'm just saying, he's getting what he deserves...another long vacation from the real world

He should be in an institution, getting help with his obvious mental issues, not in prison, making them FAR worse than they are now.

Surely they'll be looking into institutionalizing him quite aggressively this time, being that this isn't his first horribly violent offense.

And you think he should be put in prison, with the key thrown far, far away, letting him absorb the violent atmosphere that EVERY prison on the planet produces, in the hopes that he will, somehow, come out of it rehabilitated?

Or is this genuine interest in trying to get him help?

I really wouldn't give a damn either way, so long as he's not on the streets.

Wow, you care SO much for the well-being of your fellow man... Wait... Nevermind, I don't either, I just can't take it when people are so ignorant.

So because I don't give a shit for a random violent (mentally unstable) criminal, I'm ignorant? Whatever, I guess then sure I'm ignorant...but he's still back where he needs to be so it all works out in the end.

No, you're not ignorant because you don't care, you're ignorant because you were looking at the situation from your perspective and yours alone.

Are you mentally unstable? Probably not. So in that situation, you would have acted differently, and the outcome would have been less violent.
I won't argue that he's a criminal, but he's a criminal because his brain has a malfunctioning anger-switch, not because he's a prick who likes hurting people for fun.

I have an idea: Why don't I give you a metal pole, and have myself and a friend try beating you into the ground, you know, so we know just how you would react in that situation?

 

[flaviok79]

Common courtesy exists not to protect other people's feelings, but to protect us from unknown dangers that lurk around our urban living places. Who knows if the guy you are giving the finger to in transit is packing heat? Or the overworked and underpaid cashier in front of you has a criminal record? These women reaped what they sowed.

 

[Tonythion]

Girls deserved a punch to the face. But not a fucking metal rod. I wouldn't even want my worst enemy beaten to near death.

This just goes to show that you can't be too careful when dealing with people you don't know.
Guy obviously trying to start life over again, obviously someone with his background will have anger issues.

With those anger issues he probably wasn't really thinking so thats why he took it that far.

Those girls are amazingly stupid. First of all you don't follow someone into a place you could easily get hurt. There are deep fryers, its a enclosed space he can beat you down easily.

Second of all, even if there are two of you, women can't take on a man. Not trying to be sexist but unless you're a body builder or that guy is extremely small he can beat the shit out of you.

Also if I was a worker there I would not get close to that guy while he was swinging a metal rod. That co worker right next to him is fucking brave to even get that close to him.

 

[SteewpidZombie]

It's funny how people claim they DESERVE to have been smacked with a metal rod, or that the cashier had the right to beat them. Yet did anyone ACTUALLY read the article about how the Cashier was a former VIOLENT OFFENDER who was convicted of manslaughter for the murder of a 17 year old classmate some years ago, or the fact that one of the girl's may now have brain damage and is still in the hosptial AFTER he beat her over the head repeatedly with the metal rod?

Sure a self defense situation would be viable HAD they actually attacked him, and HAD he not beaten them with a weapon. Legally in this situation, this guy is going to jail and he isn't ever getting back out (since proving that after being in for murder, he isn't safe to even work at those kinda jobs). By all rights the women DID start the incident, but it was the cashier who took it to the extreme.

 

[EeveeElectro]

Why the hell are McDonalds hiring someone has has murdered another person!?
He's clearly fucking mental and violent.
Everyone saying "***** deserved it!" -No. She did deserve something, a slap back maybe. Or even picking up the rod and threatening her with it, she should have backed away. Not getting beaten senseless by a metal rod!

Saying that, it's a shame the girl didn't learn any manners. You don't slap someone and start a fight over false money, he was just doing his job. She shouldn't be so arrogant to think you can prance into a shop and get away with fake money. When people act like that something like this is bound to happen, I wouldn't think this extremity though. ;_;

 

[Yearlongjester]

*Redacted*

 

[Yearlongjester]

*Redacted*

 

[Phoenixlight]

The search engine could be better. I hope I didn't sound too rude ; )

It really could, it's the worst piece of shit I've ever had the displeasure of dealing with. In terms of the story I haven't been able to access a video of the events yet but it does sound like the guy was slightly in the wrong. It would have been better if he either only hit them a couple of times to make them go away or just punched them a few times.

 

[Asuka Soryu]

They deserved to be beaten with a metal rod? That's too much for me to believe they deserved it. Honestly, that's a whole lot of violence to have "deserved it" in my book.
Then again, almost any amount of violence is too much for me so...

so... someone smacks you with their purse as you walk away, jumps over a counter in order to continue beating you and you wouldn't do anything to retaliate what so ever?

So... someone hits you with a book and chases you in a public area and rather then getting help, you'd shoot them with a gun? Oh, that's not the same? He could've smashed her head in 'causing a major hemorage and killed her.

For fuck sakes, if someone starts chasing you in an public place with a purse, either get help from your fellow employees, push her and maybe kick at the most or pull out the metal rod to scare, not to actually strike someone.

You honestly think two women slapping you gives you the right to break bones and smash them in with a piece of metal, then you're a pretty sick person. There's self defense and just a plain psychotic response.

This man has issues, his repsonse to this was not just wrong, but proof he can't be around other people if he can go so far. No slap in the face and 'being chased' will ever justify breaking someones bones. Now if she had an actual weapon, then yes. But she didn't... This is obvious he went to far in 'self defense' and people are acting like he's some fucking hero.

 

[the spud]

Probably a bit overkill, and he definitely shouldn't be in the service industry anymore, but I have no sympathy for those 2 ladies. They had it coming.