ME2 Question (for those who have completed it )

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I need help, I am gonna do the second playthrough but on my first one Morden and Legion died. I don't care so much about Legion but y'all know Morden rocked. Could someone please tell me how to get my whole team to survive on the collector ship?
 

Fire Daemon

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No there isn't anyway to get her loyalty back*. To keep Miranda alive don't give her any jobs on the suicide mission and don't take her with you to the final boss. I'm not 100% sure if that will save her but people only seem to die when you give em jobs. I have heard of people dying randomly but it seems to be rare. You don't need full loyalty to come out with everyone, I know that for a fact.

I was lucky though, I always have enough Paragon/Renegade points to do the impossible. Screw Neutrality!

*Edited.

Also, if you do Jack's mission first and side with her can you then go and do Miranda's and gain her loyalty as well? I've never tried that.
 

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Yes there is you just have to have either your paragon or renegade points almost all filled out. If you have that when they aregue you can choose a good or bad chat option that will be neutral and keep both their loyalty. If you didnt have enough when they argued i believe you can talk to miranda with 100% paragon or renegade points and it will give the option to get her loyalty back.
 

DarkLordofDevon

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As far as I can tell, anyone without full loyalty will die at some point. The only deciding factor with regards to tasks is WHEN they will die, and if they take someone else with them. But no matter what you do those with low loyalty WILL die by the end. I suggest going and doing an extra side quest or something to pick up a few extra paragon/renagade points, or accept that you can't save everyone this time and restart.
 

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Fire Daemon said:
*Edited.

Also, if you do Jack's mission first and side with her can you then go and do Miranda's and gain her loyalty as well? I've never tried that.
the confrontation between them doesn't happen until you did BOTH loyalty missions
 

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Andothul said:
If you didnt have enough when they argued i believe you can talk to miranda with 100% paragon or renegade points and it will give the option to get her loyalty back.
Same as what Andothul says, if you don't have the required paragon/renegade at the time of the argument, you can talk to either one of them after once you've got enough points and they'll be loyal again.
 

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Fire Daemon said:
No there isn't anyway to get her loyalty back*. To keep Miranda alive don't give her any jobs on the suicide mission and don't take her with you to the final boss. I'm not 100% sure if that will save her but people only seem to die when you give em jobs. I have heard of people dying randomly but it seems to be rare. You don't need full loyalty to come out with everyone, I know that for a fact.

I was lucky though, I always have enough Paragon/Renegade points to do the impossible. Screw Neutrality!

*Edited.

Also, if you do Jack's mission first and side with her can you then go and do Miranda's and gain her loyalty as well? I've never tried that.
This only occurs when both are loyal, so unfortunately no.

Edit: My apologies I failed to notice that that question had been answered already. My bad.
 

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Fire Daemon said:
Also, if you do Jack's mission first and side with her can you then go and do Miranda's and gain her loyalty as well? I've never tried that.
I think the scene only triggers if you completed both of their missions.

Andothul said:
If you didnt have enough when they argued i believe you can talk to miranda with 100% paragon or renegade points and it will give the option to get her loyalty back.
This is true I'm not sure if 100% paragon/renegade is needed though. Just talk to whoever you pissed off. If you have enough points there should be a red/blue dialog option to the left of the dialog wheel. If you don't have enough to points to do this then there's nothing you can do.
 

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Fire Daemon said:
I'm not 100% sure if that will save her but people only seem to die when you give em jobs. I have heard of people dying randomly but it seems to be rare.
I guess I'm the rare exception.
I had everyone's loyalty, and Mordin died in the final act. He was the only one to die, and I never gave him a job.
I did give Garrus a 'lead that group' job twice, so maybe that contributed.
I have no idea.

All I know, is that Mordin died, and he was the only one. What a wimp.
 

EMFCRACKSHOT

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Fire Daemon said:
No there isn't anyway to get her loyalty back*. To keep Miranda alive don't give her any jobs on the suicide mission and don't take her with you to the final boss. I'm not 100% sure if that will save her but people only seem to die when you give em jobs. I have heard of people dying randomly but it seems to be rare. You don't need full loyalty to come out with everyone, I know that for a fact.

I was lucky though, I always have enough Paragon/Renegade points to do the impossible. Screw Neutrality!

*Edited.

Also, if you do Jack's mission first and side with her can you then go and do Miranda's and gain her loyalty as well? I've never tried that.
No, you only get the cutscene of them arguing after you have done both loyalty missions. Its the same with legion ad Tali.
And yes, what you said at the start should keep her alive, but i'm not entirely sure. I always had enough paragon points to resolve the issue without losing anyones loyalty
 

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Actually...

Just a thought, is it possible to do every loyalty mission, and save the crew?

Like is it possible for me to do legions loyalty quest and then leave immediatly for the crew?
 

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poiumty said:
dududf said:
Actually...

Just a thought, is it possible to do every loyalty mission, and save the crew?

Like is it possible for me to do legions loyalty quest and then leave immediatly for the crew?
Yep.
But you get Legion after the IFF mission... and then if you go to another planet the Collectors raid the ship.

And you don't actually GO any where...
 

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dududf said:
But you get Legion after the IFF mission... and then if you go to another planet the Collectors raid the ship.

And you don't actually GO any where...
Wait what's stopping you? I'm pretty sure you can still roam around the galaxy map even when the Collectors take your crew.
 

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DarkLordofDevon said:
As far as I can tell, anyone without full loyalty will die at some point. The only deciding factor with regards to tasks is WHEN they will die, and if they take someone else with them. But no matter what you do those with low loyalty WILL die by the end. I suggest going and doing an extra side quest or something to pick up a few extra paragon/renagade points, or accept that you can't save everyone this time and restart.
Nope, it is possible to save everyone with as little as 4 loyal characters.
 

Fire Daemon

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Baby Tea said:
I guess I'm the rare exception.
I had everyone's loyalty, and Mordin died in the final act. He was the only one to die, and I never gave him a job.
I did give Garrus a 'lead that group' job twice, so maybe that contributed.
I have no idea.

All I know, is that Mordin died, and he was the only one. What a wimp.
Mordin and Tali seem to be the ones that die randomlly, which is really strange. They certainly are likeable so maybe it was just Bioware deciding to be jerks to random people?

Did you purchase Mordin's Omni-tool? Maybe that had something to do with it.

dududf said:
Actually...

Just a thought, is it possible to do every loyalty mission, and save the crew?

Like is it possible for me to do legions loyalty quest and then leave immediatly for the crew?
I know that you have time to talk to Legion and get his mission before the IFF is installed. Not sure about after that though, I'd say no but I've only played it twice, could be wrong.

Everyone said:
You get the argument after you do both missions
Yeah, thanks for telling me.
 

SeanthePsycho

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In the situation like this, its most ideal to pick either paragon or renegade options. When you side with one of them, you lose the loyalty of the other (this is going to happen again pretty soon for you).

You're best to reload (if you can) and use Paragon or Renegade options. If not, then you might be screwed on the final mission.
 

EMFCRACKSHOT

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dududf said:
poiumty said:
dududf said:
Actually...

Just a thought, is it possible to do every loyalty mission, and save the crew?

Like is it possible for me to do legions loyalty quest and then leave immediatly for the crew?
Yep.
But you get Legion after the IFF mission... and then if you go to another planet the Collectors raid the ship.

And you don't actually GO any where...
You should be able to do legions loyalty mission straight after the Reaper IFF without the collectors attacking. If i remember correctly, you get one free mission without losing the crew.
Then you have to go straight to the suicide mission or you lose most of the crew.
You do 1 mission after collector attack on you ship you lose kelly
You do more you lose everyone but the doc
 

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Baby Tea said:
Fire Daemon said:
I'm not 100% sure if that will save her but people only seem to die when you give em jobs. I have heard of people dying randomly but it seems to be rare.
I guess I'm the rare exception.
I had everyone's loyalty, and Mordin died in the final act. He was the only one to die, and I never gave him a job.
I did give Garrus a 'lead that group' job twice, so maybe that contributed.
I have no idea.

All I know, is that Mordin died, and he was the only one. What a wimp.
Garrus is one of the best leaders, that's fine. Mordin IS a wimp, he has a quite high chance of dying in the final act. The best thing to do is to have him lead the survivors back because that way he will definitely survive.
 

Chimpaco

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i told them both to leave each other the fuck alone and stay 1 floor apart at all times. I lost the loyalty of niether. Then i had sex with jack, and made miranda my love interest. I also find it funny when i went throguh mass effect 1 i was dating a girl named ashleigh. Same name different spelling. And now im going through Mass effect 2 and im dating a girl named miranda. i was like WTF?