ME3: Extended Cut: Your predictions

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Chrono212

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Elamdri said:
Chrono212 said:
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Chrono212 said:
Something I hope for (probably in vain) is that the ridiculous plot holes at the very, very end are filled in.

How'd your squad get back on the Normandy?
Why was Joker running away?
How'd the victory fleet get to their respective homes?

Mostly the non-sensical three choices need to go or have Shepherd challenge the irritating entity in question more.
That last one is not a plot hole.
Thank you, Cpt Obvious.
It's still something I want changed or explained.
Why? This is one of the complains that I don't really get. Do you think it didn't occur to most of those ships that it was probably a one way trip? I mean, yeah, it's not a one-way trip in the way they were probably expecting, but I don't understand why the concept of "You were a big damn hero, now you get to starve to death" is such a problem with people.
Oh, I thought you were talking about the lying star child.

In that case, no, is one of the biggest plot holes in the whole ending.

Spoilers to follow.
Ok, so Wrex talks about having a family and how Shepherd will mean 'hero' in Kroganese. Or something.
He even says this while on Earth, in a positive tone, meaning he wasn't planning to hang around there forever.

Also, the whole Migrant Fleet goes to Earth. Or at least the vast majority of Quarian ships and, as we've established, are where they all live[footnote]Granted, you could argue that civilian populations remained on their home world (if that option was taken) but since that's never mentioned it can only be a hypothesis[/footnote].

This is also ignoring that none of the leaders ever mention or call this a 'one way trip'. Other than expecting casualties from the final engagement, I don't think anyone would have signed up to starve to death in orbit around a war torn planet.

Anyway, I don't think the fleets would be 'brothers in arms' for long when they find out there's no food. Especially the Turians and Quarians.
 

Elamdri

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Chrono212 said:
Elamdri said:
Chrono212 said:
Elamdri said:
Chrono212 said:
Something I hope for (probably in vain) is that the ridiculous plot holes at the very, very end are filled in.

How'd your squad get back on the Normandy?
Why was Joker running away?
How'd the victory fleet get to their respective homes?

Mostly the non-sensical three choices need to go or have Shepherd challenge the irritating entity in question more.
That last one is not a plot hole.
Thank you, Cpt Obvious.
It's still something I want changed or explained.
Why? This is one of the complains that I don't really get. Do you think it didn't occur to most of those ships that it was probably a one way trip? I mean, yeah, it's not a one-way trip in the way they were probably expecting, but I don't understand why the concept of "You were a big damn hero, now you get to starve to death" is such a problem with people.
Oh, I thought you were talking about the lying star child.

In that case, no, is one of the biggest plot holes in the whole ending.

Spoilers to follow.
Ok, so Wrex talks about having a family and how Shepherd will mean 'hero' in Kroganese. Or something.
He even says this while on Earth, in a positive tone, meaning he wasn't planning to hang around there forever.

Also, the whole Migrant Fleet goes to Earth. Or at least the vast majority of Quarian ships and, as we've established, are where they all live[footnote]Granted, you could argue that civilian populations remained on their home world (if that option was taken) but since that's never mentioned it can only be a hypothesis[/footnote].

This is also ignoring that none of the leaders ever mention or call this a 'one way trip'. Other than expecting casualties from the final engagement, I don't think anyone would have signed up to starve to death in orbit around a war torn planet.

Anyway, I don't think the fleets would be 'brothers in arms' for long when they find out there's no food. Especially the Turians and Quarians.
I'm not sure that you understand what a plot hole is. A plot hole is an inconsistency in the story or an omission of some sort. An example would be Batman Begins, where they use a microwave to boil all the water in Gotham to release nerve gas into the air. But the human body is mostly water, so why didn't it cook everyone in the city if it was powerful enough to rupture water mains?

What you described above isn't inconsistent with anything, it's just unfortunate. They all went to earth and now it seems like they got stranded there unwillingly. That certainly sucks for them, and it probably has some very dire implications, but it's not a plot hole.
 

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What you described above isn't inconsistent with anything, it's just unfortunate. They all went to earth and now it seems like they got stranded there unwillingly. That certainly sucks for them, and it probably has some very dire implications, but it's not a plot hole.
Not a plot hole, but definitely a loose thread. A thing like that can be pulled in the middle of a trilogy quite easily, but at the end, it's just a nasty cliffhanger and people will accuse the writer of being lazy whether it was an intentional "fill out your own future" thing or not.

It's sort of like a "Bolivian army ending" in one of those movies. The story doesn't "end", it "stops".
 

Jandau

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I expect two things from it: Jack and Shit, and Jack just left town...

Seriously though, Bioware has already stated that it won't be new endings or "fixed" endings, it'll just provide more info on what happened to your squad. However, I doubt it'll beparticularly interesting, impactful or in any way engaging. For it to be anything but pointless crap they'd have to take into account the various possible combinations or dead and alive characters, romances, relationships between the characters, endings of individual story arcs AND THEN do three version of all of them, one for each ending. Or at least two versions, one for the synthesis ending and one for the other two.

However, this is Bioware we're talking about, the company with a pathological fear of redundant or skipped content. They won't provide closure for the various possible story combinations. They'll provide some vague crap without any emotional weight or plot significance. At least that's what I'm expecting...
 

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I'll tell you the one thing, the main thing that would make me happy,

if my shep, Amanda Shepard's final though was of her love interest, Garrus, instead of bloody Liara

There are many other things that drive me mad about the ending, but that for me is the one that drives me mad!
 

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Anyone know what time its out? It's already the 26th in the UK
I'm seeing claims it's already up and running... though I haven't confirmed that personally.
 

NKRevan

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Prediction:

1) People who hated the endings will still hate the endings.
2) People who were OK with the endings, but were upset about the lack of closure will be happier.
3) People who already liked the endings will still like the endings.

Since I fall into the second category, I predict that I will be happier. Hooray me!
 

Chrono212

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Elamdri said:
Chrono212 said:
Elamdri said:
Chrono212 said:
Elamdri said:
Chrono212 said:
Something I hope for (probably in vain) is that the ridiculous plot holes at the very, very end are filled in.

How'd your squad get back on the Normandy?
Why was Joker running away?
How'd the victory fleet get to their respective homes?

Mostly the non-sensical three choices need to go or have Shepherd challenge the irritating entity in question more.
That last one is not a plot hole.
Thank you, Cpt Obvious.
It's still something I want changed or explained.
Why? This is one of the complains that I don't really get. Do you think it didn't occur to most of those ships that it was probably a one way trip? I mean, yeah, it's not a one-way trip in the way they were probably expecting, but I don't understand why the concept of "You were a big damn hero, now you get to starve to death" is such a problem with people.
Oh, I thought you were talking about the lying star child.

In that case, no, is one of the biggest plot holes in the whole ending.

Spoilers to follow.
Ok, so Wrex talks about having a family and how Shepherd will mean 'hero' in Kroganese. Or something.
He even says this while on Earth, in a positive tone, meaning he wasn't planning to hang around there forever.

Also, the whole Migrant Fleet goes to Earth. Or at least the vast majority of Quarian ships and, as we've established, are where they all live[footnote]Granted, you could argue that civilian populations remained on their home world (if that option was taken) but since that's never mentioned it can only be a hypothesis[/footnote].

This is also ignoring that none of the leaders ever mention or call this a 'one way trip'. Other than expecting casualties from the final engagement, I don't think anyone would have signed up to starve to death in orbit around a war torn planet.

Anyway, I don't think the fleets would be 'brothers in arms' for long when they find out there's no food. Especially the Turians and Quarians.
I'm not sure that you understand what a plot hole is. A plot hole is an inconsistency in the story or an omission of some sort. An example would be Batman Begins, where they use a microwave to boil all the water in Gotham to release nerve gas into the air. But the human body is mostly water, so why didn't it cook everyone in the city if it was powerful enough to rupture water mains?

What you described above isn't inconsistent with anything, it's just unfortunate. They all went to earth and now it seems like they got stranded there unwillingly. That certainly sucks for them, and it probably has some very dire implications, but it's not a plot hole.
hey all went to earth and now it seems like they got stranded there unwillingly. That certainly sucks for them, and it probably has some very dire implications
It is a plot hole because the characters all act as if they will go home. It's still a stupid inconsistency that shouldn't be there.

And you're just nit-picking one particular problem. So if you don't like that one, how do you explain how your squad got back on the Normandy? Why was the Normandy running away? How did Shepherd get shot in the stomach? Where did the blood from the aforementioned wound go? Why does Shepherd not question the star child's assumptions and assertions, going against his established character?

Call them plot holes or inconsistencies, this was a sub-par ending to an otherwise stupendous series of games.
 

ServebotFrank

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The Extended Cut is out guys! Xbox Live, in all it's wisdom, made the EC essentially hidden on the marketplace. Go to the very end of the extra section in the ME 3 menu. It's there.
 

Delsana

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There were over 72 plotholes and lore inconsistencies.. throughout the entirety of the game. And none of them was minor.
 

bafrali

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Spoiler Alert:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PThzItSAT5c&feature=g-all-c

Here is one of the endings
 

Riff Moonraker

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Sean Hollyman said:
The fucking download has been at 0% for a while now.

Is anyone else experiencing this?
I cant even download it. Its giving me a frakking error. So, I tried to download the Skyrim DLC in the meantime, same frakking thing. Grrr.... Maybe its related?
 

AnarchistFish

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My download disappeared. Not sure if it failed or if it sped up to the finish but I can't find a trace of it either way. hmmmmm...

Wondering if it will only be cutscenes of it will have you playing as well, although considering that Sheperd dies in most of the endings I doubt it.
 

The Artificially Prolonged

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Cannot wait for the hear more on the details of Dawnguard. PC version is still a month or two off so that will have to tide me over.

As for the Mass Effect extended cut, whatever happens hopefully the threads that will pop up will drown out all the feminism and gender politics threads we've been having lately :p