Meat

[Silvanus]

Do you eat meat?
I never eat meat that has been bought on my behalf, but I eat it if it doesn't contribute to demand. For example, if it would otherwise go to waste.
I was a full vegetarian for years, but the actual eating of meat isn't what I object to-- it's contributing to demand. No animals die on my behalf, anywho. That's what matters morally.

If no, why?
Moral reasons.

Would you eat Synthetic Meat?
Yep. I already eat meat substitutes sometimes. Usually I replace the meat component with something more interesting though, like halloumi or paneer in a curry.

Do you have a preference in Meat?(as in both in terms of Animal and individual Dish)
I remember loving crab, lobster, lamb and duck, none of which I have had in about 7 years (tis rare that a situation will arise in which I can have it without contributing to demand). I still eat cockles and mussels though, because they don't have brains.

 

[Adeptus Aspartem]

Do you eat meat?
Yes

If yes, why?
Because it's super awesome and tasty.

Would you eat Synthetic Meat?
Sure.

Do you have a preference in Meat?(as in both in terms of Animal and individual Dish)
Not really, i just love meat. Horse&filly is awesome for fondue chinoise, i also try to eat more exotic animals from time to time like crocodile, emu or stuff like that.

 

[Pebblig]

Vegetarian = No meat or fish.
Pescatarian = No meat (eats fish)
Vegan = No meat, fish, eggs or dairy products.

Do you eat meat?

Nope. (for about 4 years)

If no, why?

It's for a couple reasons, firstly there's the fact that my parents are vegetarian (they always allowed me to eat meat) so I had a sort've less than average intake of meat than most people so I was kinda fussy about which meats I liked. Secondly there's the whole morality issue that I have, I never really like harming anything so I felt bad for eating them.

Would you eat Synthetic Meat?
Meaning like Quorn, Fake meat made from vegetable protein? Or like synthetically group meat that I've seen experiments with?

I eat various meat substitutes, Quorn, TVP (textured vegetable protein)etc, so I'm not really against things that "look" like meat. I'm unsure if I would eat synthetically grown meat where an animal hadn't been killed.

If you don't eat meat, what do you prefer?

To be honest, most likely similar to what most other people eat, you can basically get a meat substitute for anything that isn't like a massive piece of meat or meat on the bone (like steak, chicken wings, pork chops etc). But my diet is slightly heavier in other things that contain protein to make up for it (beans, eggs etc,) i.e I eat a lot of eggs.

I know a lot of people get mad at vegetarianism haha, but really I think it's fine if you treat it the same way as I treat religions...it's fine if you believe in it, just don't try and force it on anyone else!

 

[Phrozenflame500]

Do you eat meat?: Yes.

If yes, why?: Because fuck animals Because it tastes like chicken/bacon/steak.

Would you eat Synthetic Meat?: Does it taste like chicken/bacon/steak?

Do you have a preference in Meat?(as in both in terms of Animal and individual Dish): Chicken, bacon and steak. Hamburgers are pretty good, since it has both bacon and steak on it.

Edit: Also this turned into a VegatarianvsMeat holier then thou argument really fast.

 

[Vivi22]

Do you eat meat?
If yes, why?
If no, why?
Would you eat Synthetic Meat?
Do you have a preference in Meat?(as in both in terms of Animal and individual Dish)
If you don't eat meat, what do you prefer?

Yes, I eat meat.
Why? Because it's good for you regardless of what the more fanatical veggie folks try to tell you. Even the shitty grain fed stuff is better than no meat at all.

I would eat synthetic meat, but like you, only if it held the nutritional value of meat raised on the proper diet for the species. Despite what commercials might tell you, it is not normal for chickens, pigs, etc. to be raised on grains. Chickens in particular will eat sources of protein such as bugs in the wild, and the same goes for pigs as well. Animals are fed grains to fatten them up, but it frequently is not healthy for them, nor is the meat as healthy for the consumer as a result.

As for favourite meat, I have a preference for beef myself, but I admit I haven't had the opportunity to try things like venison. I'm hoping to change that though as I would like to take up hunting next year.

 

[Vivi22]

animals = humans

Many of us do not object to eating meat by definition. After all, our animal friends do it all the time. What we object to is the unreasonable cruelty that stems from an intentional lack of empathy. That's why one of the above poster's "LIEK OMG DO U ALSO FEEL SORRY FOR MICROBES KILLED BY UR BODY" statement is so hilariously besides the point.

I'll preface this by saying that I, as a meat eater, prefer that animals be raised in conditions which are not absolutely abominable, and that their deaths be quick.

That said, you may believe that animals and humans are equal, but that is objectively false. Moreover, you really can't compare phrases like "shot like a dog" with "lazy negro." A dog is not and will never be human. A black person is. Moreover, a dog is never going to be offended by such a statement. I get where you're coming from: animals shouldn't be mistreated even if they are being raised for food. But just because we don't want them needlessly harmed or mistreated that doesn't make them the equivalent of a human on any level.

 

[necromanzer52]

I eat meat more out of convenience than anything else. I'm not particularly fond of it, it's just that it's in everything. For instance, if I'm eating out, by not eating meat I'd be limiting myself to maybe 20% of the menu in most places, or if it's a smaller selection there will be different options based on what meat is in them, you know, beef, pork, chicken, and then there'll be the one, and only one vegetarian option.

If places would do a range of tasty meals, some with meat, and some not rather than just sticking meat in everything no matter how out of place it is, I might give vegetarianism a go, but until then it's just easier to eat meat.

 

[Ninmecu]

I don't eat meat. It's horrible for the environment, and pretty bad for your health when you eat as much as the average person does. We're built more like herbivores that happen to be able to digest meat properly, but most people have that ratio flipped.

I'd have to argue against the idea that we're herbivores by nature or that we're built more herbivorish. But that argument would spiral into racial differences based on the thousands of years separating cultures/"races". My heritage(Algonquin) eat(and ate) meat like it's going out of style, when the Colonials came they saw my ancestors(Of only about 4 in some cases 5 generations back) as human specimens that put them to shame. I highly doubt it's because they were herbivore types. I also know for a fact, meat is the reason we're here now. Not we in the sense that life brought us here because of that, but in the sense that our brains evolved rapidly through the introduction of animal fats, growing our brains and increasing our intelligence because of it.(which is also why more and more youth are born with crooked teeth, we need less teeth to eat meat and our skulls are growing little by little to accommodate our growing brains while our jaws are shrinking due to the aforementioned not needing as many teeth.)

-"It's tasty" (I find skittles, nachos, and soda tasty, but I don't eat them but once in a great while. Self control and foresight are good things.)

Speaking only for myself, meat is filling. It gives me what I need to survive and not eat a ridiculous amount of carbohydrate laden foods that I can't digest and do absolutely nothing to stifle my hunger. I've also gotten ridiculously weak when I went 2 weeks without eating meat, so I find the "It's tasty" argument a bit invalid. It's more of a "I need to eat once living animals for my own survival." thing But, it is really tasty.

-"Real men eat meat" (Because nothing proves you are the might hunter like buying pre-cut slabs of meat raised and slaughtered by someone else.)

This ones just silly, but I'll tackle it anyway for shits and giggles. Historically speaking, real fine specimen of men(That other men look at and secretly wish they were) were generally Big Burly Hunter Gatherer types. Though, just look at Gaston from disney's beauty and the beast to see how well that turns out when you're "that guy".

-"You need protein" (You do, but only around 40 grams a day. People overshoot that by a mile, and it's excess protein is bad for your bones. I haven't eaten meat in five years, I've never taken a protein supplement, and I'm doing just fine.)

Again, I have to point out that there is a difference on a racial level(No matter how racist it is to say or think. We aren't all built identically on a metabolic level.) I'd argue that, for lack of better terms, White People metabolize most things differently than African Descendents and Aborigines people. I've seen it in action in a few studies and through my own personal tests. But as for 40 grams of protein a day, No, just, no. I'll openly admit I have a habit of eating more protein than I should, but I eat considerably less of everything else because my body either can't metabolize it(Wheat products/Dairy products) or metabolizes it poorly (Carb heavy fruits/veggies). My bodies best diet is often akin to Ketogenic eating.

If you must eat meat, eat smaller portions less often.

Again, No.

I eat meat because I'm a fundamentally moral person, and meat kills fewer animals per calorie than farming plants by like two orders of magnitude.

Wut?

How in seven hells have you come to this conclusion? Are you talking about insect life dying due to pesticides? Otherwise I have no idea what you mean. In fact the opposite is true in terms of environmental impact, creating a kilogram of meat takes something like 7-10 times as much farmland as kilogram of plant based food.

Having said that, I do like meat. I do draw the line at certain foods, foie gras for example I feel causes needless suffering for what is ultimately a very unhealthy food.
I would eat synthetic meat if they managed to make it economically viable and taste okay.

It's scientifically (sort of) proven that plants not only live, but also feel pain and communicate. So, he's arguably correct in his statement. How is Fat Liver unhealthy though, is it the usual "Fat is bad for you so lets all eat 0% stuff that has added sugar to remove the fat" thing? Or do you have a legitimate reason for not enjoying fat(s).

 

[kyuzo3567]

Empathy is a feeling where one equates the condition of another to ones own condition. Empathy is generally reserved for those a person considers part of their own group or population. Studies suggest that animals (like chimpanzees) only have empathic reactions for individuals they know, whereas humans seem to be able to empathize with all other humans.

That may, however, be in part a social construct (this is merely my own theorization). Unfortunately there is a fair bit of historical evidence that suggests many people really did view other "races" as being effectively a different species from themselves, and could thus easily lack any empathetic response. Basically it's an example of the very natural way we divide our entire world into categories of "us" and "them" as do most animals. There are some very good reasons for doing so as far as survival is concerned.

So certainly we now recognize, quite rightly, that all humans are people just like us. So yes, that would be basic empathy. Extending that to animals, however, is not basic: it goes beyond the normal. Pet animals might well be naturally considered as part of ones group and thus receive empathy, but doing so for any and all animals clearly goes beyond that.

At any rate whatever line you draw is arbitrary: do you feel empathy for the bacteria and fungi that your body kills all the time to keep you alive? I certainly hope not. The point being not that bacteria and cows are the same but that somewhere you have made a personal distinction between various lifeforms (based on some criteria), and that has allowed you to extend your sense of empathy further than normal. After all plants are alive too, and I assume you don't worry too much about killing plants.

Feeling empathy for bacteria and plants would be non conducive to living your own life. Feeling it for larger animals does not necessarily impede on your ability to live a full healthy life, but it doesn't help and doesn't really seem to be a natural response.

My point isn't that you are in any way wrong to do so, but only that it can't really be considered "basic Empathy." I assume you eat plants because you consider them less... alive? mobile? than animals, which is fine. I and most people just make the same kind of distinction between humans and animals.

I really just wanted to quote this and say that I find it to be a very well reasoned and thought out response with some good examples. It's rare to find posts like this on forums so I am quite happy to have read this.

I eat meat, I eat it alot
Generally I eat alot of chicken and fish for protein for dietary reasons but beef is my favourite "common" meat, also I can't digest Pork so I don't eat that, ever.

I find meat tastes really good and my body craves it, even when I get enough or more than enough protein from other sources in a day, if I go a few days without actual meat I get a huge craving for some.

I would eat synthetic meat if it didnt affect my Crohns symptoms and it tasted good (and also was better for the world to produce)

I have had the pleasure of having Venison, Bison, Moose, Lamb, Rabbit, and Bear meat as well, they were all pretty good (Bear was interesting, it was kind of tough to chew even though it had been ground up and made into a burger)

 

[Griffolion]

Do you eat meat?

Yes.

If yes, why?

Because I like it. The taste, texture, etc. It also has some moderate health benefits.

Would you eat Synthetic Meat?

I'd be willing to consider it. I would need assurances of purity, and health related concerns.

Do you have a preference in Meat?(as in both in terms of Animal and individual Dish)

I like a good ol' chicken breast (or two). I'm a big Nandos fan (the sauce, taste etc), so it kinda makes sense I like chicken. It's also white meat, so one of the healthier ones overall.

 

[SonOfVoorhees]

I eat meat, love it. Synthetic meat? Not interested. As for people that dont eat meat, its up to them as long as they dont question the fact im eating a steak or whatever.

 

[JasonKaotic]

I do not eat meat.
It's a moral thing. I don't agree with farming, the whole living things being treated like tools thing, all that jazz. I'd eat meat if it was hunted, though.
I do eat Quorn, some of it's pretty good, but it's not as good as the real thing. Mostly. Quorn chicken nuggets wipe the floor with real chicken nuggets. Veggie or not, you should try them.
Before I was a veggie I fucking loved Pork. Pretty much any kind of it. Chicken being a close second.

 

[Ninmecu]

I do not eat meat.
It's a moral thing. I don't agree with farming, the whole living things being treated like tools thing, all that jazz.

Do you mind my asking your thoughts on Domesticated animals? Or beasts of Burden?

 

[JasonKaotic]

I do not eat meat.
It's a moral thing. I don't agree with farming, the whole living things being treated like tools thing, all that jazz.

Do you mind my asking your thoughts on Domesticated animals? Or beasts of Burden?

Pets are fine. We treat 'em better than we treat other people, so I definitely can't complain there.
Beats of burden I'm a bit iffy with, but it kind of depends on what exactly it is. Like, horseriding I don't mind much, since it doesn't seem to bother them, but horse-drawn carriages and the like are a bit different, since it's basically slave labour. And horse racing. If they get injured, they're killed. What even.

 

[Artina89]

I do eat meat, but I limit my consumption. I mainly stick to chicken, fish and turkey, but if Quorn was more affordable I would go for that instead, so I would say I have a mainly vegetarian diet. My actual favourite foods are apples, oranges, mushrooms, spinach, raisins, rice and yoghurt.

 

[Eddie the head]

Yes I do. I grew up on a farm, so two major reasons I do. One being that I would have starved if I didn't. And second reason is well to be honest it's kind of philological scaring. As a little kid I was kind of tormented by a roster and by buck goats. As a consequence I have an extremely hard time anthropomorphizing them.

Would I eat synthetic meat? Yeah, my roommates are vegetarians so whatever. I just lack empathy for the animals, I'm not doing anything out of spite.

And for the last part. Just anything my Dad gives me really. They had fine lives so I'm not sad about it.