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Lil devils x_v1legacy

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Zontar said:
Lil devils x said:
Zontar said:
Aelinsaar said:
I want to be clear, it's reasoning like that which gets the laughs, or the crying victimhood of people doing better than almost anyone else.


Sorry, but just because there are some white rich men, does not mean every white man is rich, and your acting like it is is frankly quite insulting.
The difference is he is STILL more privileged than a homeless black woman. Privileged isn't look at this guy with money and this guy without money. A wealthy black woman is still not as privileged as a wealthy black man as well.
Aside from the greater number of benefits homeless women have, 90% of homeless people are men, there is a massive imbalance in the funding for programs which, I'll be frank, dwarf all others which I am aware of in terms of sheer scale.

And no, he is not more privileged then a black woman in the same situation. A homeless white man has literally no privilege. This is a clear cut case of a black woman in this case being the more privileged one, and to say otherwise is a categoric rejection of reality.
over 60% of homeless are male, most are black, not 90% and the reason there are less female homeless is due to more homeless women have children than men, and the shelters take children first. Fathers with children are given the same priority, so it isn't a matter of " male or female" but whether or not they are accompanied by children.
http://homeless.samhsa.gov/ResourceFiles/hrc_factsheet.pdf


A homeless white man DOES have more privilege the homeless black woman is far more likely to be raped. In fact, they are far more likely to be raped by homeless men.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/11/skid-row-sexual-assault_n_5668853.html
http://joh.sagepub.com/content/25/2/351.full.pdf
http://www.homeless.org.au/people/melissa.htm
http://www.wwltv.com/story/news/local/northshore/2015/02/24/homeless-man-accused-of-kidnapping-raping-woman-for-days/23964725/
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jan/27/homeless-women-in-melbourne-raped-and-abused-by-men-who-offer-shelter
 

Zontar

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Lil devils x said:
over 60% of homeless are male, most are black, not 90% and the reason there are less female homeless is due to more homeless women have children than men, and the shelters take children first. Fathers with children are given the same priority, so it isn't a matter of " male or female" but whether or not they are accompanied by children.
Guess this is one of those yankee/canuk divides, because here in Canada the homeless are almost all white and women are marginal.
A homeless white man DOES have more privilege the homeless black woman is far more likely to be raped. In fact, they are far more likely to be raped by homeless men.
Alright I know I already laugh at the notion of privilege because of its divorce from reality as it acts as though class if the least important aspect instead of being the single one which outweighs all others combined, but you can not look me in the eyes and seriously tell me this is a part of what privilege is. There is literally no definition of privilege which can be used to proclaim that this is what it is.
 

KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime

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Lil devils x said:
over 60% of homeless are male, most are black, not 90% and the reason there are less female homeless is due to more homeless women have children than men, and the shelters take children first. Fathers with children are given the same priority, so it isn't a matter of " male or female" but whether or not they are accompanied by children.
http://homeless.samhsa.gov/ResourceFiles/hrc_factsheet.pdf


A homeless white man DOES have more privilege the homeless black woman is far more likely to be raped. In fact, they are far more likely to be raped by homeless men.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/11/skid-row-sexual-assault_n_5668853.html
http://joh.sagepub.com/content/25/2/351.full.pdf
http://www.homeless.org.au/people/melissa.htm
http://www.wwltv.com/story/news/local/northshore/2015/02/24/homeless-man-accused-of-kidnapping-raping-woman-for-days/23964725/
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jan/27/homeless-women-in-melbourne-raped-and-abused-by-men-who-offer-shelter
I don't get where you get that most homeless people are black, because even by percentage there are just more white people to be homeless, besides a shocking number of homeless are veterans.

Also black women and women in general being more likely to be raped is not a question of privilege, it's a question of exploitation. That being that because men tend to be stronger, not to mention being held to societal standards that demand respect for women, it's easier for women to be exploited. That's not a question of privilege it's a question of force and/or trust in the person who ends up committing the crime.

Edit: I should clarify that women and people in more vulnerable positions in general are more likely to be exploited, purely because they're more likely to take higher risks to get out of their vulnerable position.
 

Frankster

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Aelinsaar said:
Not to put too fine a point on it, but as the SPLC has explicitly pointed out, spreading bullshit stats is a cornerstone of MRA's.
Spreading bullsheet stats and misinformation is a cornerstone of these discussions full stop, no matter which "side" is involved, don't see why MRA would be singled out for special mention on that front. And I'd have said the exact same thing if you were saying it for feminists too, don't worry, I'm egalitarian in that regard.
 

Frankster

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Aelinsaar said:
Good, I'm not into equivocation either so no need to apologize to me.

Asking for stats is fine, I take no issue with that. What I take issue with is the part of your statement that says spreading bullshit is a cornerstone of the MRA as if that was a property unique to them and not to other "sides" of these type of topics.

So no I wasn't saying "everyone is full shit" but rather "that side isn't any less full of shit then any other involved in this topic". I got no comment on your reasonable request for citation or stats.

dirtysteve said:
And before we talk about whose stats are bullshit, remember, Feminism still pushes the wage gap and 1-in-4.
I was actually gonna give that stat as an example before deciding I didn't need it. Wasn't it 1 in 5 though? Has the number got even worst? D: Damn.
 

Ryotknife

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Lil devils x said:
Kopikatsu said:
Aelinsaar said:
Please lets not get racist... we both know that race has nothing to do with SNAP eligability.
No, we don't both know that. When I was homeless, I applied at the FDCF for food stamps. I was told by the staff that if I wasn't black and/or a single mother, then I shouldn't bother. I did bother. Never got approved despite having literally nothing but the clothes on my back.

Just because someone lied does not make it true.
actually....your post does kinda prove his point. Blacks are 3x more likely (by percentile) to receive help even though they only have twice the poverty rate compared to white people.

the data shows that something is wrong. Blacks are getting more help than they should, and latinos are getting significantly less help than they should. Black and Latino poverty rate is pretty much the same, yet blacks get 2.5x more help than latinos even though the latinos outnumber blacks by a fair amount.

Strangely enough, Asians have it worse than white people. The only group that is at a rate it should be is native americans.