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-Samurai-

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I outgrew most of it and moved on to actual music, instead of just noise and growls.

There are still a few metal bands I can stomach, but for the most part, I just don't like it anymore.

I'm happy to say that I never had that "METAL IS THE ONLY GOOD MUSIC EVAR AND EVERYONE ELSE IS A PUSSY!!" attitude. The elitist views held by most metal fans is enough to make me vomit. The fact that they broke the genre into a ridiculous amount of sub-genres just to ***** at each other about who's more "metal" makes me want to eat that vomit, only to vomit it up again.
 

Revolutionary

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Well, I dont think I'll get bored or "grow out" of Metal, for me instead of finding new things and moving on, I find new things while still holding on to older things. (I listen to everything from Hole, through to things like Refused and System of a Down.) BTW what the hell is core Metal?
 

Imperioratorex Caprae

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Macheteswordgun said:
amaranth_dru said:
If metal is/was a "phase" for you, then you really didn't know yourself. Its not for everyone, and I know a lot of people who were "hardcore" rap fans in high school but then learned that its not the music that you listen to that makes you "cool" nor is it the clothes you wear. Whatever makes you happy in your life and comfortable with yourself is what makes you "cool".
Metal makes me happy, strange as it may sound. I've always found a light inside the darkness that is hard/heavy rock.
Pop music irritates me, as does new (post 90's) rap. Metal has rarely moved away from the core that began it (Ozzy/Sabbath, Metallica, Iron Maiden, Megadeth, Anthrax, AC/DC, etc.) it has only evolved into more brutality and violence. But the funny thing is I feel safer at a metal concert than I do at a rap concert.
Then again, the definition of metal varies from person to person. I've had people tell me that Nine Inch Nails is "metal" when they're nowhere on the metal radar. Awesome music, but they're more industrial rock than metal.
But to return to being OT, metal's not generally "fad" music except for people who're still searching for who they really are, or people who are mad at mommy and daddy and want to piss them off.
I was never a "rebel", never used music as a weapon against my parents, nor did I dress in black to scare people off or look dark and spooky or to be different. Well, yes I did (and still do) dress in black, but thats because I find it comfortable and a lot of my best clothes are black (plus its easier to match with...).
You bring some points i'd like to elaborate on. I myself am a metal head who dresses like one. Typicaly attire band t shirt *i have like 30 i wear more signed* denium jeans wallet with chain and black boots *i have weird feet so boots are amazing <3* but there is a typical attire that us metal heads can point each other out. But nothing is more insulting than someone thinking your emo *they never did me cause i dont have black hair i drink i smoke and i have sex and im a giant* or those kids "claiming" their metal wearing lightly colored shirts pants some of the women ive fucked cant fit into and some kind of silly shoes and being fucking pansys and doing stupid things in the pit. This sucks cause it gives normal *i use the term lightly* people a shitty impression of metal heads. But i also admit the shirts i have are always brutal and its fun to fuck with people who see me in them and my size scare them shitless. As for the sound i understand it just speak to you on so many different lvls mood feelings life etc there a song for it in metal i promise. More stuff i wanna talk about but i lost my train of thought
One of my best friends died this past month and he was the drummer for a local metal band down here. People talk all kinds of crap on how evil metal is and how bad people who listen to it are, but we had a service for my friend at a local bar and over 150 people showed up (I live in Key Largo, a small island off the tip of Florida about a mile wide and 7 miles long, so that might give you an idea of how many people knew and liked him). Not one person had a bad thing to say about my friend, and I saw even some of the most metal people I've ever known break down and cry at the wake/service (very reminiscent of the day my friends and I heard Dimebag Darrell had been shot and killed). 3 local metal bands showed up and played their hearts out for him.
He (my friend) lived and breathed metal, and yet was the type of person who would bend over backwards to help out even his worst enemy, of which he had none. So whenever I hear anyone down or dis people for listening to metal as "evil" or "bad" or "troubled" people, I think of my friend Steve-O and all the lives he touched through his music and through his life. Hell, he had dreads, piercings and tattoos and if I'd seen him out in public and never knew him, I'd have thought he was probably someone I wouldn't want to mess with. But he also had a heart of gold, and even saved a 4 year old kid's life. But if you ever met him in the pit, you'd leave with a few good bruises ;)
Actually his death put life into perspective for me, and started me back down my own path of making awesomely brutal music... I guess I'm rambling a bit, but my point was and will always remain, people rarely look past the outside layers of a person; how they dress, tattoo's/piercings/hairstyles... And they make judgements solely on that, which I've always believed to be wrong, same with judging people by the music they listen to.
Attitude and heart are what you should be judged on (if anything you should be judged on).
 

Macheteswordgun

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-Samurai- said:
I outgrew most of it and moved on to actual music, instead of just noise and growls.

There are still a few metal bands I can stomach, but for the most part, I just don't like it anymore.

I'm happy to say that I never had that "METAL IS THE ONLY GOOD MUSIC EVAR AND EVERYONE ELSE IS A PUSSY!!" attitude. The elitist views held by most metal fans is enough to make me vomit. The fact that they broke the genre into a ridiculous amount of sub-genres just to ***** at each other about who's more "metal" makes me want to eat that vomit, only to vomit it up again.
There are some people who are like that. I do tend to think metal is better than most other music but thats just my personal ears most music now a days *country rap etc* is just crap while classic etc is really good. Its true metal is the most diverse thing but some of the stuff gets ridiclous
 

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amaranth_dru said:
Macheteswordgun said:
amaranth_dru said:
If metal is/was a "phase" for you, then you really didn't know yourself. Its not for everyone, and I know a lot of people who were "hardcore" rap fans in high school but then learned that its not the music that you listen to that makes you "cool" nor is it the clothes you wear. Whatever makes you happy in your life and comfortable with yourself is what makes you "cool".
Metal makes me happy, strange as it may sound. I've always found a light inside the darkness that is hard/heavy rock.
Pop music irritates me, as does new (post 90's) rap. Metal has rarely moved away from the core that began it (Ozzy/Sabbath, Metallica, Iron Maiden, Megadeth, Anthrax, AC/DC, etc.) it has only evolved into more brutality and violence. But the funny thing is I feel safer at a metal concert than I do at a rap concert.
Then again, the definition of metal varies from person to person. I've had people tell me that Nine Inch Nails is "metal" when they're nowhere on the metal radar. Awesome music, but they're more industrial rock than metal.
But to return to being OT, metal's not generally "fad" music except for people who're still searching for who they really are, or people who are mad at mommy and daddy and want to piss them off.
I was never a "rebel", never used music as a weapon against my parents, nor did I dress in black to scare people off or look dark and spooky or to be different. Well, yes I did (and still do) dress in black, but thats because I find it comfortable and a lot of my best clothes are black (plus its easier to match with...).
You bring some points i'd like to elaborate on. I myself am a metal head who dresses like one. Typicaly attire band t shirt *i have like 30 i wear more signed* denium jeans wallet with chain and black boots *i have weird feet so boots are amazing <3* but there is a typical attire that us metal heads can point each other out. But nothing is more insulting than someone thinking your emo *they never did me cause i dont have black hair i drink i smoke and i have sex and im a giant* or those kids "claiming" their metal wearing lightly colored shirts pants some of the women ive fucked cant fit into and some kind of silly shoes and being fucking pansys and doing stupid things in the pit. This sucks cause it gives normal *i use the term lightly* people a shitty impression of metal heads. But i also admit the shirts i have are always brutal and its fun to fuck with people who see me in them and my size scare them shitless. As for the sound i understand it just speak to you on so many different lvls mood feelings life etc there a song for it in metal i promise. More stuff i wanna talk about but i lost my train of thought
One of my best friends died this past month and he was the drummer for a local metal band down here. People talk all kinds of crap on how evil metal is and how bad people who listen to it are, but we had a service for my friend at a local bar and over 150 people showed up (I live in Key Largo, a small island off the tip of Florida about a mile wide and 7 miles long, so that might give you an idea of how many people knew and liked him). Not one person had a bad thing to say about my friend, and I saw even some of the most metal people I've ever known break down and cry at the wake/service (very reminiscent of the day my friends and I heard Dimebag Darrell had been shot and killed). 3 local metal bands showed up and played their hearts out for him.
He (my friend) lived and breathed metal, and yet was the type of person who would bend over backwards to help out even his worst enemy, of which he had none. So whenever I hear anyone down or dis people for listening to metal as "evil" or "bad" or "troubled" people, I think of my friend Steve-O and all the lives he touched through his music and through his life. Hell, he had dreads, piercings and tattoos and if I'd seen him out in public and never knew him, I'd have thought he was probably someone I wouldn't want to mess with. But he also had a heart of gold, and even saved a 4 year old kid's life. But if you ever met him in the pit, you'd leave with a few good bruises ;)
Actually his death put life into perspective for me, and started me back down my own path of making awesomely brutal music... I guess I'm rambling a bit, but my point was and will always remain, people rarely look past the outside layers of a person; how they dress, tattoo's/piercings/hairstyles... And they make judgements solely on that, which I've always believed to be wrong, same with judging people by the music they listen to.
Attitude and heart are what you should be judged on (if anything you should be judged on).
Yeah normal people have such a bad view on metal heads while most of us are people who are good citizens etc just enjoy a different type of music thats out there away from there nice little houses etc. On a side note pits scare normal people so bad. I would explain myself beating people with no mercy and watch "normal" people be appualed i mean its nothing but good fun with a good set of rules in the pit and its just a release really nothing more. It sucks when a musician dies to sorry to hear for your loss
 

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-Samurai- said:
I outgrew most of it and moved on to actual music, instead of just noise and growls.

There are still a few metal bands I can stomach, but for the most part, I just don't like it anymore.

I'm happy to say that I never had that "METAL IS THE ONLY GOOD MUSIC EVAR AND EVERYONE ELSE IS A PUSSY!!" attitude. The elitist views held by most metal fans is enough to make me vomit. The fact that they broke the genre into a ridiculous amount of sub-genres just to ***** at each other about who's more "metal" makes me want to eat that vomit, only to vomit it up again.
People like that are the ones who give "metal" a bad name. Music is different for everyone, and the last thing on earth anyone should get down on someone for is what they listen to musically. I may not like certain types of music but I won't down anyone for listening to it, just don't expect me to like it and if you bring it up I may be a very harsh critic.
;)
 

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Macheteswordgun said:
*snip*

Yeah normal people have such a bad view on metal heads while most of us are people who are good citizens etc just enjoy a different type of music thats out there away from there nice little houses etc. On a side note pits scare normal people so bad. I would explain myself beating people with no mercy and watch "normal" people be appualed i mean its nothing but good fun with a good set of rules in the pit and its just a release really nothing more. It sucks when a musician dies to sorry to hear for your loss
He made the 27 club for musicians, its sad but life moves on, and so do we. I love the looks on people's faces when I describe nearly breaking my leg in a Rob Zombie pit as one of the best times of my life... or getting a fresh piercing ripped out... lol. Its a form of catharsis, it helps me to remove the rage/frustration that builds up over time, and there usually is a form of etiquette in the pit. Its not a fight because by the time you realize you got hit in the face, you've no idea who did it so you just go out and stick someone else, and it keeps going (of course its not always punches, sometimes pushes or pulls or catapults/slingshots)... hell I remember one good pit a buddy and I started doing circles around the edges being pulled and slingshotted along until the crowd was a blur. Then a 7' tall brick-shithouse of a native american stepped out in front of me and stopped both our forward momentum without even budging. He then picked my friend and I up by our shoulders, patted us on the head and said "Nice try."
 

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I was raised on classic metal (Zeppelin, Sabbath) and then as I got older I got into a mix between good old fashioned psychedelic music and death and doom metal. As for the smoking discussion, people ask me if I'm drugs all the time, but that's what happens when you go to a conservative school in a conservative town in a conservative state. There's maybe fifteen people at my school who like REAL metal, and not one of us hasn't been accused of drug use since high school started. For the talent, allow me to lose my professional demeanor and say OH MY GOD METAL DRUMMERS ARE RIDICULOUS!
 

Yureina

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I dabbled in metal in my teens, but after a while I guess I did "grow out of it". At the same time, I have a very "loose" interest in music, so one might say that I just stopped listening actively to stuff in general rather than having a falling-out with a specific genre.
 

Kpt._Rob

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Well, I used to listen to a lot of metal, and while I still do on occassion, I find that as I've aged (though admitedly I'm only twenty now), its appeal has slowly become lost to me. I find that now I've got a fondness for something a little more mellow. The new age jazz of JJ. Alan for instance, which I never would have even considered back when I was listening to metal, has since come to be representative of the sounds I find I like more as I get older.

I think there are some people for whom metal is something you grow out of, and some for whom it isn't. I would say that I'm a case of someone who grew out of it, though I certainly recognize that there are people who go on listening to metal their entire lives. That said I would note that I definately thought at one point in my life that I would be in the second category, of people who listen to metal their entire lives. Oh well, it would appear I was wrong.
 

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I listened to metal during the first few years of highschool, stopped towards the end. I've moved toward trance & techno, and honestly, I find metal repulsive now.

In all honesty, I'd rather listen to Justin Bieber than metal right now. I've gone past "lost interest" to "cannot stand".
 

The Stonker

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I love metal and I've always loved metal but my metal taste has changed over the years from


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5Hv0tsvpyU
to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deK_KXkSLkM

Yeah my music taste was quite heavy but now I'm well lighter ^^
 

-Samurai-

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amaranth_dru said:
Macheteswordgun said:
*snip*

Yeah normal people have such a bad view on metal heads while most of us are people who are good citizens etc just enjoy a different type of music thats out there away from there nice little houses etc. On a side note pits scare normal people so bad. I would explain myself beating people with no mercy and watch "normal" people be appualed i mean its nothing but good fun with a good set of rules in the pit and its just a release really nothing more. It sucks when a musician dies to sorry to hear for your loss
He made the 27 club for musicians, its sad but life moves on, and so do we. I love the looks on people's faces when I describe nearly breaking my leg in a Rob Zombie pit as one of the best times of my life... or getting a fresh piercing ripped out... lol. Its a form of catharsis, it helps me to remove the rage/frustration that builds up over time, and there usually is a form of etiquette in the pit. Its not a fight because by the time you realize you got hit in the face, you've no idea who did it so you just go out and stick someone else, and it keeps going (of course its not always punches, sometimes pushes or pulls or catapults/slingshots)... hell I remember one good pit a buddy and I started doing circles around the edges being pulled and slingshotted along until the crowd was a blur. Then a 7' tall brick-shithouse of a native american stepped out in front of me and stopped both our forward momentum without even budging. He then picked my friend and I up by our shoulders, patted us on the head and said "Nice try."
I'm not a pit person, but they're fun to watch(and be on the outside edge of). There's something amazing about them. All those people slamming into each other, but when someone falls down, the pit instantly stops and all those people are reaching down to help the person back up. Then, when someone get accidentally involved, the people in the pit don't force them into it, they just let the bystander out.

You wouldn't think such a controlled chaos existed.

Actually, large events are altogether amazing. The last one I went to was 32,000+. I got knocked on my ass by a huge crowd surfer and the second I hit the ground I had 20 hands bringing me back up.
 

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Couldn't tell you, mate. Personally, the exact opposite is true for me- I used to think that my dad was an idiot for liking metal, but as you can see from my avatar, I grew into it. And frankly, given the selection of bullshit that is pop, I can't see ever growing out.
 

floppylobster

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I would say about 80% of people grow out of metal. For the most part it's just hard to feel the same sense of rage and anger or even energy when you're older.

The same thing happens with porn. You'll still want to look at nude women, you just won't be turned on as easily.

So fuck it, enjoy it while you can.
 
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Aby_Z said:
Because metal is what you go to when you 'rebel' in your teen years.[footnote]To clarify, this is not my opinion, but a possible answer to why people in society would believe metal is something you just outgrow. I personally love metal.[/footnote]

For me, I went from pop, to alternative, and so on until I found Symphonic Metal, which I'm sticking with into the foreseeable future. It's all just personal taste.
Nail, meet Hammer. Hammer, meet Nail. I don't think that anything else can clear this up better than this... but lets give it a shot

I got into metal a couple years ago but I was never more than just hovering on the surface and I only ever listened to the bands that were real big. Then I changed a bit and figured out who I was and all that junk (which, for 16 is pretty good. I think it came around when I started looking at this site more, hmm) and now I'm into pretty much any music that tickles my fancy. Plus, I reckon a lot of it is down to wanting to be accepted.

Overall though, it can always be brought down to the fact that you change from your rebellious phase of metal and punk (like Aby_Z stated) to a different kind of music as your personality changes. But, everyone's different. A lot of people love metal all the way till they die.

Apologies to Aby_Z for quoting the you 3 pages into the thread.
 

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-Samurai- said:
amaranth_dru said:
Macheteswordgun said:
*snip*

Yeah normal people have such a bad view on metal heads while most of us are people who are good citizens etc just enjoy a different type of music thats out there away from there nice little houses etc. On a side note pits scare normal people so bad. I would explain myself beating people with no mercy and watch "normal" people be appualed i mean its nothing but good fun with a good set of rules in the pit and its just a release really nothing more. It sucks when a musician dies to sorry to hear for your loss
He made the 27 club for musicians, its sad but life moves on, and so do we. I love the looks on people's faces when I describe nearly breaking my leg in a Rob Zombie pit as one of the best times of my life... or getting a fresh piercing ripped out... lol. Its a form of catharsis, it helps me to remove the rage/frustration that builds up over time, and there usually is a form of etiquette in the pit. Its not a fight because by the time you realize you got hit in the face, you've no idea who did it so you just go out and stick someone else, and it keeps going (of course its not always punches, sometimes pushes or pulls or catapults/slingshots)... hell I remember one good pit a buddy and I started doing circles around the edges being pulled and slingshotted along until the crowd was a blur. Then a 7' tall brick-shithouse of a native american stepped out in front of me and stopped both our forward momentum without even budging. He then picked my friend and I up by our shoulders, patted us on the head and said "Nice try."
I'm not a pit person, but they're fun to watch(and be on the outside edge of). There's something amazing about them. All those people slamming into each other, but when someone falls down, the pit instantly stops and all those people are reaching down to help the person back up. Then, when someone get accidentally involved, the people in the pit don't force them into it, they just let the bystander out.

You wouldn't think such a controlled chaos existed.

Actually, large events are altogether amazing. The last one I went to was 32,000+. I got knocked on my ass by a huge crowd surfer and the second I hit the ground I had 20 hands bringing me back up.
Yeah, I noticed this, too. The last three days there was a local festival. It's the fourth year in a row this year, and the music that is played is punk and metal. The second night, there were pits and every time someone fell down, everything stopped to make sure he was OK, and get him up.

There were also pits the third night at this Death metal band, but I didn't join in, because the guys in the pit were typical Death metal fans, long hair and massive in size. Joining would be a death wish, seeing that I'm only 14.

OT: I don't think that I'll grow out of metal, but I'll surely change my tastes. For example I've went from listening to Slipknot, Korn, Linkin Park and System of a Down to Rammstein, Slayer, Metallica, Iron Maiden, Kreator.
 

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Macheteswordgun said:
I've always been told or heard that everyone eventualy grows out of metal.
Uh, no offense, but the fact is, there are a good deal of people who never like metal, (me being one of them) so that statement is a little imprecise.
But yeah. Sorry, but I hate metal.