Metal bands blamed for murders

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MalevolentJim

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As some of you may have heard,Slipknot are now among the many other metal groups used as scapegoats for stabbings.

"In an apparent Satanic ritual, a Krugersdorp matriculant "with mad eyes" arrived at school on Monday with several swords and allegedly killed one boy before seriously injuring three more people.

The victim was a 16-year-old boy at the Nic Diederichs Technical High School. Another pupil sustained serious head wounds while two gardeners were also stabbed with a 60cm-long sword, said Netcare 911 spokesperson Mark Stokoe."Wearing his mask, he then allegedly started stabbing at boys walking past him, killing one and seriously injuring another, before turning on the gardeners.

The boy had painted his face black and resembled the drummer of the band Slipknot, said Krugersdorp councillor Alex Raubenheimer. "He said Satan told him to kill the children," adding that there were reports from witnesses that the boy had abused drugs.


Pierre Eksteen, who is in charge of a school support network for children, told reporters outside the deserted school grounds that Satanic music was probably the cause of the attack.

"He came here camouflaged as the guy from Slipknot. We know the wrong kind of music and drugs have bad effects. Young people need to be informed of the effects of bad Satanic music," said Eksteen.



It's ridiculous how the blame can be passed on something as trivial as the mask of Joey Jordison is the apparent reason for the killings and NOT something more plauseable like drug addiction.Which reportadley,he was using at the time.

So what i'm asking you is this:Do you believe i'm right?Is this ignorance poorly justified?What do you think?
 

zirnitra

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pfft, from what I know slipknot is a pseudo metal commercial rubbish band for 13 year old American nerds they wouldn't be able to influence anyone to do that. it may however show that people with mental illnesses like slipknot :).

also how dare they call it satanic music? for it too fill that category the band has to off burnt down at least one church illegally like a proper black metal band...and be from Norway.
 

Chechosaurus

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Yeah, Slipknot is far from Satanic. This is part of the reason why I have so many problems with America. I try noot to be prejudice but then something like this happens and they blame it on music... I just can't help but genuinely believe that they are all stupid. It is certainly not Slipknot's fault for what happened and they don't deserve the blame (even though I want them to just go away and never darken musics door again) and neither do any other bands that don't praise the lord every other line.
 

JayCro

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Well if it isn't the music it must be the TV, the movies and especially the games he plays. It couldn't possibly be the drugs.

Some people are just stupid.
 

Birras

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When will people stop saying "OMG! My kid stabbed some guy on the bus! Must find scapegoat so my poor parenting isn't called into question!" and start saying "I neglected my child and noticed nothing strange when dressed up as Pyramid Head and carried a large knife to school, so I blame myself as a poor parent."? Also, wouldn't someone notice when the kid in question arrived at school wearing a mask and carrying swords? I hardly think it would be met with a "Hi Billy, nice swords, I assume they're for a history project so I'll just let you go on in."
 

Strafe Mcgee

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Again? Deary me, when will people learn to stop blaming things other than violent music and media for atrocities?
 

MysteriousSquirrel

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nowadays, it seems no one wants to accept responsibility for their actions. Its just easier to blame music,tv, games, etc. Parents dont want to admit that they screwed up in raising their children. By blaming music (of any degree of darkness) another stab is being made to breakdown the arts in society. If a parent wants to blame slipknot for their kids wrong doing, they need to think about who it was who let them listen to it in the first place.
 

laikenf

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Yeah that's what's metal is all about: SCARE THE SHIT OUT OF NORMAL PEOPLE! Beautiful, just beautiful.
 

ultra_v_89

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If you listen to music that makes you go out and stab people, something was wrong with you before the music.
 

Reaperman Wompa

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*sigh* If it doesn't explicitly say "do nothing bad ever and help babies and pray to jesus every day" then someone's gonna blame it for something eventually.

Slipknot couldn't convince a kid to kill, it's a F^ckin band, this is why i'm so glad i live in Australia. There's only about 3 crazy anti everything people down here, so games and music etc aren't really blamed as much for everything, like in American media.

It even said he used drugs, wtf? Why do they blame the band, if a kid "abuses" drugs then goes crazy and kills some people, why didn't they blame drugs?

Slipknot can't be blamed, also do you have a link to the article? i want to see what his parents have to say.
 

PedroSteckecilo

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The second anyone says "It's a Satanic Ritual!" they've labled themselves as idiotic. I've known some true Satanists, they're not nearly as scary as you'd think and tend to have a more philosophical outlook than anything. In my American Religious History course the Satanist and Evangelical Christian got along famously... it was very strange.
 

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I know that rock and roll (that 50s crap) was blamed for juvenile delinquency, and this trend has pretty much continued, so I'm quite apathetic to this crap. I'm not a Slipknot fan, but I'm pretty sure their not a satanic band, from the songs I've heard, and yes to be a proper Satanic band you need to burn down a christian church, the exception being if the church was built on a site of worship that belonged to the preceeding Pagan cult.
 

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zirnitra post=18.69732.669290 said:
pfft, from what I know slipknot is a pseudo metal commercial rubbish band for 13 year old American nerds they wouldn't be able to influence anyone to do that. it may however show that people with mental illnesses like slipknot :).

also how dare they call it satanic music? for it too fill that category the band has to off burnt down at least one church illegally like a proper black metal band...and be from Norway.
/agree

Slipknot, that weak ass poser metal? blamed for murders? and not the eye-watering amounts of cocaine he was snorting while simultaneously jamming a ball of heroin the size of a monkey's fist up his ass? For shame mass media, for shame.
 

yourkie1921

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"In an apparent Satanic ritual, a Krugersdorp matriculant "with mad eyes" arrived at school on Monday with several swords and allegedly killed one boy before seriously injuring three more people.
that's not a satanic ritual. You jackass.
You people need to learn a little more about satanism. A satanic ritual is done alone or with willing participants and no one is physically harmed in the process, unless it's used for the purpose of destruction, but that definitely does not involve you physically stabbing someone. And I'm not going to half-believe anything this reporter says until then.
but I'm pretty sure their not a satanic band, from the songs I've heard, and yes to be a proper Satanic band you need to burn down a christian church, the exception being if the church was built on a site of worship that belonged to the preceeding Pagan cult.
you're a jackass to. Satanism has no problem with christians, they just think christians are masochists and the ones who have problems with people who do masochistic things during sex or just aren't Christian are in denial. If the church killed anyone related to you however, the religion doesn't STOP you from burning it.
The second anyone says "It's a Satanic Ritual!" they've labled themselves as idiotic. I've known some true Satanists, they're not nearly as scary as you'd think and tend to have a more philosophical outlook than anything. In my American Religious History course the Satanist and Evangelical Christian got along famously... it was very strange.
thank you A satanic ritual never involves the person invoking the ritual stabbing someone.
 

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MalevolentJjim post=18.69732.669280 said:
The victim was a 16-year-old boy at the Nic Diederichs Technical High School. Another pupil sustained serious head wounds while two gardeners were also stabbed with a 60cm-long sword, said Netcare 911 spokesperson Mark Stokoe."Wearing his mask, he then allegedly started stabbing at boys walking past him, killing one and seriously injuring another, before turning on the gardeners.
Wait, what?

So... he stabbed the gardeners, then the other boys, then went back to stabbing the gardeners?

And "stabbing the boys walking past him"?

Is it just me or is it not a generally bad idea to risk walking past a psycho flailing swords around?

The whole article seems a little odd. "And allegedly killed one boy"? What do you mean, "allegedly"? Are you just writing down what any passerby says? (and is it the same kind of passerby that happily walks past a guy wearing a mask, waving swords around and possibly butchering gardeners?)
 

Church256

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Oh god not again. Why do we care anymore? It's the same stuff over and over and right now I really couldn't care what the media thinks. I'll only start caring again if they start banning things.

I wonder if we could manipulate the media some how to show the world how much bullshit is said over the news.
 

TommyGun465

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as said before,some people are too ignorant and irresposable that they blame things like music, tv or video games. i hear mothers talking about that and it fills me with a sense of blind rage. "oh GTA made my child be violent" now how do you know that miss *****? MAYBE YOU MOTHERFUCKING FUCKED UP ON RAISING YOUR LITTLE PISSGRUNT! Well, now you got me started and im having teen rage. Well, my point is that most people are too MORONICLY STUPID to understand that they spoiled theyre LITTLE MOTHER... Teen rage blows. but you understand what im trying to say.
 

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Chech post=18.69732.669312 said:
Yeah, Slipknot is far from Satanic. This is part of the reason why I have so many problems with America.
Yeah, you and every other expert on American culture are absolutely right. Slipknot is a perfect representation of the U.S. and everyone here just loves them. They're spokespeople for our country and we're so incredibly saddened that they influenced a kid enough to kill.
 

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MalevolentJjim post=18.69732.669641 said:
yeah no prob,it's http://www.mg.co.za/article/2008-08-18-krugersdorp-school-rocked-by-satanic-killing
He just used the mask and that's how they connected Slipknot? Jesus the press will grasp at anything nowadays.