Metal bands blamed for murders

[BardSeed]

I blame R 'n' B for all the stabbings in Britain recently. I think we should ban all music and self expression, a small minority are murderers, everyone knows that the minority are actually the majority. Did that make sense? No? Good, I proved my point.

 

[wahi]

why are the parents never blamed? i'd lay bets that the kid was going through a tough time, maybe a divorce, maybe something else.
teenage is a hard enough time by itself even for the most adjusted amongst us, and if you have no one to talk to, it just gets a lot worse.
i think that if a kid gets his hands on a 60cm long blade and can get it inside school without anyone noticing, a lot more people are to blame rather than a band who are probably passed out at this very moment.

 

[wahi]

Hey! Don't you be telling me how to worship Satan. I don't come into your house and tell you how to wash your dishes.

so i was wondering, by worshiping satan, do you mean worshiping him as the god? i can understand thinking of him as a prophet of some sorts but god would mean rewriting a lot of the bible.

 

[wahi]

Hey! Don't you be telling me how to worship Satan. I don't come into your house and tell you how to wash your dishes.

so i was wondering, by worshiping satan, do you mean worshiping him as the god? i can understand thinking of him as a prophet of some sorts but god would mean rewriting a lot of the bible.

Lol, no, that would be far too perverse. Naw, I worship him as the better of my problems. See, let's take a scenerio. I just bought a hooker and a 40oz. What does Christ/God do? He gives me a condescending look and says, "No. Do nothing you like, then when you die, you will become like me, which is technically a robot." However, as I'm pouring vodka on my hooker Satan is giving me a thumbs up.
Basically he just presents me with a life more suitable to what benefits me best. A life of happiness, for eternal damnation after it no longer matters. Live how I want to when I'm alive, exist how he wants me to after I die.
I could see him as more of a prophet yes, but when the time comes, he's going to be the guy who tells me what sounds best.

wow imagine telling that to one of the muslim priests.
so basically following satan means a life with no responsibility for the after-life?
i'm probably wrong because then a satanist(is that even the correct term?) can commit any crime that a religion would prohibit. but in that case you people would probably look at the state laws, because stealing might seem to lead to happiness, but it might lead to getting jailed in the life here and now, which would be counter-productive to your pursuit of happiness.
i know i should be wiking this, but i have never had a conversation with a follower of satan. and btw do you people have a church of your own?

 

[wahi]

Nah, it's not having no responsibility of the afterlife.
Look at it this way, read your Bible, what's in the afterlife? Nothing, or pain, eternal nothing, or eternal pain...... Well, to get the eternal nothing, I must remain sober, abstain from premarital sex, etc. However, to get the eternal pain, I merely have to experiment with alchohol (fun), play video games without constantly dwelling on the fact that it is merely a game and that by playing it I make myself vulnerable to demonic attack, I am allwoed to experiment sexually, etc. It's not a shirk of eternal responsibility, it's an acceptance.
Yes I do much more than live how I want to, but most of everything else is more philospohical than physical.

And some people may have chruches for it, but organised religeon has never gone well from what I've seen. So I'd stick, if at all, to groups of 10 at best.

you guys must be the most misrepresented people in history no? i thought of satanists as like the necromancers in oblivion or something.
and did you adopt satanism or were you born one? a bit too personal i think but i am just too curious now...

 

[Copter400]

Didn't we stop blaming satanism on Metal when video games were invented? Get with the times.

 

[Bored Tomatoe]

Jesus Christ......*sigh*...I, Bored Tomatoe, do sincerely apologize for the stupid, stupid people that have come to represent america, on behalf of all americans who aren't total idiots, I appologize....

And who blames a band when the kid is clearly higher than a kite???

 

[Sky God]

also how dare they call it satanic music? for it too fill that category the band has to off burnt down at least one church illegally like a proper black metal band...and be from Norway.

Like Burzum =D

And yeah I think it's all bullshit, I've been listening to metal for like 3 years and I've only killed a few people... I mean none...

 

[SaintWaldo]

Is it the Eighties again?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helter_Stupid

 

[TJ rock 101]

Its probable that he got high then saw a slipknot music video and said "wow it would be cool if i looked like that" and went outside.

Music is basicly about making good songs and if a song you like tells you to go kill people then somethings wrong in the first place and if you go and do it something is wrong with you.

(P.S. slipknot are pretty good in my opinion ^^)

 

[Darkwolf9]

This has been a "big concern" as here in America for the past 30-40 years. Parents or authority figures place the blame of bad decisions of their kids on music, video games, role playing games, movies, T.V., etc. The idea is that if kids spend so much time on these things they will be influenced to do bad things. You know what there is some truth to it; however, there is no scientific evidence or any other hard evidence for the theory. Sure if you play or listen to the previously mentioned that have tons of killing, violence, or hate speech in it you will undoubtedly become desensitized to some of the ideas. This does not however follow that you or anyone will follow through them. I myself have listened to metal and played violent video games and grew up in a horrible environment. I have not done anything that these games portray and nor do act far out of the "norm." I have known many individuals the same and many of you have undoubtedly done the same and none of us (at least that I know of) have done anything on that level.
I believe that people are a sum of their experiences and this often over looked when parents or school reps start blaming things. They do this because they don't know how to except responsibilities for their failures as parents or public leaders. In America we are quick to except the gratitudes and quick to blame for failures. Anyway I could type all day on the subject. Hit me up if you wanna hear more.

 

[yourkie1921]

" Young people need to be informed of the effects of bad Satanic music," said Eksteen.

Exactly. Why the hell would you listen to Slipknot? Now, if you want to worship Satan, Behemoth is the way to go.

Anyway, BS! The kid did drugs and the music is to blame? It's time for me to kill again....

"In an apparent Satanic ritual, a Krugersdorp matriculant "with mad eyes" arrived at school on Monday with several swords and allegedly killed one boy before seriously injuring three more people.

that's not a satanic ritual. You jackass.
You people need to learn a little more about satanism. A satanic ritual is done alone or with willing participants and no one is physically harmed in the process, unless it's used for the purpose of destruction, but that definitely does not involve you physically stabbing someone. And I'm not going to half-believe anything this reporter says until then.

but I'm pretty sure their not a satanic band, from the songs I've heard, and yes to be a proper Satanic band you need to burn down a christian church, the exception being if the church was built on a site of worship that belonged to the preceeding Pagan cult.

you're a jackass to. Satanism has no problem with christians, they just think christians are masochists and the ones who have problems with people who do masochistic things during sex or just aren't Christian are in denial. If the church killed anyone related to you however, the religion doesn't STOP you from burning it.

The second anyone says "It's a Satanic Ritual!" they've labled themselves as idiotic. I've known some true Satanists, they're not nearly as scary as you'd think and tend to have a more philosophical outlook than anything. In my American Religious History course the Satanist and Evangelical Christian got along famously... it was very strange.

thank you A satanic ritual never involves the person invoking the ritual stabbing someone.

Hey! Don't you be telling me how to worship Satan. I don't come into your house and tell you how to wash your dishes.

Well, are you le-vayon (AHH!! HOW DO YOU SPELL THAT). If so read the satanic bible. There might be some things open to interpretations but it's not like the christian one where squabbles can logically happen over it. if you're some other kind of satanist, whatever.

Exactly. Why the hell would you listen to Slipknot? Now, if you want to worship Satan, Behemoth is the way to go.

behomoth= best name ever.

Lol, no, that would be far too perverse. Naw, I worship him as the better of my problems. See, let's take a scenerio. I just bought a hooker and a 40oz. What does Christ/God do? He gives me a condescending look and says, "No. Do nothing you like, then when you die, you will become like me, which is technically a robot." However, as I'm pouring vodka on my hooker Satan is giving me a thumbs up.
Basically he just presents me with a life more suitable to what benefits me best. A life of happiness, for eternal damnation after it nolonger matters. Live how I want to when I'm alive, exist how he wants me to after I die.
I could see him as more of a prophet yes, but when the time comes, he's going to be the guy who tells me what sounds best.

now that sounds like a true satanist.

so basically following satan means a life with no responsibility for the after-life?
i'm probably wrong because then a satanist(is that even the correct term?) can commit any crime that a religion would prohibit. but in that case you people would probably look at the state laws, because stealing might seem to lead to happiness, but it might lead to getting jailed in the life here and now, which would be counter-productive to your pursuit of happiness.

Following satan means you live this life for this life and you're pretty close to a liberalist if I read it right. NOT AN ANARCHIST.

you guys must be the most misrepresented people in history no? i thought of satanists as like the necromancers in oblivion or something.
and did you adopt satanism or were you born one? a bit too personal i think but i am just too curious now...

It's only because satanism is basically the opposite of christianity. . satanism says "if someone smites you on your right cheek you smash them on their right". I interpret that as saying "with a large hammer" that they forgot to mention. And I've always liked black magic in videogames so if we could bring the dead back to life I would've been a satanist when I turned 5.

I know this wasn't twoards me, but I adopted it.

And some people may have chruches for it, but organised religeon has never gone well from what I've seen. So I'd stick, if at all, to groups of 10 at best.

argggghhhh... the church of satanism? that sounds like the worst thing ever.....wait "who wants to have a pre-marital bdsm sex party".....best thing ever!

 

[HSIAMetalKing]

I'd blame the kid's parents before I blamed the music or the drugs.

 

[PlasticPorter]

I say we all dress up in polos and checkered pants and beat the shit out of all those dicks who wanna take away video games and metal
and tell em jesus told us to do it

and for god sakes slipnot isnt satanist there just crappy
satanists dont even worship satan

 

[PlasticPorter]

Awww yeah time to force my ideas down the throats of people who wont ever change their opinions

go guys go!!