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Preacher_Of_Sin

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Okay. Utter bullshit. As always, the media loves to slander. Games, satanism, music, tv, etc. They want us all to read books, and listen to good Christian music. Okay, now you've gone, and pushed it to far. Blaming a religion that has nothing to do with Satan (At least from Anton LeVay's principles.) I've listened to each Slipknot album, none have actually made me want to go out and kill somebody. Can anyone tell me one instance in which a 'satanic' ritual has been conducted? Publicly? Found out about? Anything?

In fact, you know what? I'm going to go pick up the new one tomorrow. Maybe I'll conduct a satanic ritual after a do. :p
 

BardSeed

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I don't think this could be blamed solely on drugs. It would help if they told you want kind of drugs he was using and if he had history of mental illness or was addicted to them.
The reasons as to why he did it will come down to the nature/nurture debate.
 

PlasticPorter

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thats not satanism yo you might as well worship the ghost of buddy holly
do sum research on your religion
 

Limos

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America is big on scapegoats. No one wants to admit that people can just be crazy. Or that some people really are terrible parents and screw up their children.

No, everyone wants to blame something.

"My kid didn't want to kill those thirty seven toddlers, it was the satanic music. Or the violent videogames. Or the violent movies. Or the violent BOOKS!! It sure wasn't my debilitating alcohol dependency and the fact that I hit my wife!! It was the mass media!!"

"But he was such a good boy! Sure he tortured neighbourhood pets, but it was that damn videogame that made him rape that girl!"

EDIT: Oh, this isn't about America, then why is everyone making a point of it. Damn my whole post is null and void now. Well i'm leaving it up anyway because I like the point I made.
 

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TheNecroswanson post=18.69732.672332 said:
HSIAMetalKing post=18.69732.672312 said:
I'd blame the kid's parents before I blamed the music or the drugs.
Well that's just not cool. The problem with drug addict children, is drug addiction HAS NOTHING to do with upbringing. Even when properly educated a teenager will still be tempted to try the forbidden things. And unfortunately if it's hard drugs, one time was all it took for his life to fall apart. Trust me, I've grown up around it.

PlasticPorter post=18.69732.672327 said:
satanists dont even worship satan
Um, I do. That's what qualifies me as a Devil Worshiper. Anyone whoc alls themself a Satanist or devil worshipper without actually worshipping Satan, is a poser.... And we jocks hate posers. :p
Technically LaVeyan satanism doesn't worship Satan. I'm not even sure why it's called satanism. Why not LaVeyanism?
 

HSIAMetalKing

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Limos post=18.69732.672355 said:
America is big on scapegoats. No one wants to admit that people can just be crazy. Or that some people really are terrible parents and screw up their children.

No, everyone wants to blame something.

"My kid didn't want to kill those thirty seven toddlers, it was the satanic music. Or the violent videogames. Or the violent movies. Or the violent BOOKS!! It sure wasn't my debilitating alcohol dependency and the fact that I hit my wife!! It was the mass media!!"

"But he was such a good boy! Sure he tortured neighbourhood pets, but it was that damn videogame that made him rape that girl!"

EDIT: Oh, this isn't about America, then why is everyone making a point of it. Damn my whole post is null and void now. Well i'm leaving it up anyway because I like the point I made.
Again, Krugersdorp is in South Africa. It's the South African media that is attacking Slipknot on this one-- not the Americans.
 

PlasticPorter

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hey man i dont care what you do but if you go around representing "satanism" when you dont people are gonna get confused do what you think is right for you and what makes you happy but if your gonna try and inform other peopl know what your talking about first
satanism is an actual religion and satanists dont worship satan
all im saying man
 

HSIAMetalKing

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TheNecroswanson post=18.69732.672332 said:
HSIAMetalKing post=18.69732.672312 said:
I'd blame the kid's parents before I blamed the music or the drugs.
Well that's just not cool. The problem with drug addict children, is drug addiction HAS NOTHING to do with upbringing. Even when properly educated a teenager will still be tempted to try the forbidden things. And unfortunately if it's hard drugs, one time was all it took for his life to fall apart. Trust me, I've grown up around it.
Sorry if my post was misleading-- I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't trying to say that his drug addiction (if indeed he was addicted to any drug) was the result of bad parenting-- I meant that when a kid decides one day to slice up some classmates with a couple of swords, it's probably not a direct result of music or drugs. I'd investigate his home life before jumping to either of those two conclusions.
 

HSIAMetalKing

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TheNecroswanson post=18.69732.672392 said:
HSIAMetalKing post=18.69732.672387 said:
TheNecroswanson post=18.69732.672332 said:
HSIAMetalKing post=18.69732.672312 said:
I'd blame the kid's parents before I blamed the music or the drugs.
Well that's just not cool. The problem with drug addict children, is drug addiction HAS NOTHING to do with upbringing. Even when properly educated a teenager will still be tempted to try the forbidden things. And unfortunately if it's hard drugs, one time was all it took for his life to fall apart. Trust me, I've grown up around it.
Sorry if my post was misleading-- I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't trying to say that his drug addiction (if indeed he was addicted to any drug) was the result of bad parenting-- I meant that when a kid decides one day to slice up some classmates with a couple of swords, it's probably not a direct result of music or drugs. I'd investigate his home life before jumping to either of those two conclusions.
AAAAAAhh.... I see. However dude, drugs f*** you up. Make you do shit you'd never do, and definitely screw up your brain.
No doubt about that.
 

BardSeed

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I hope that when you say: "drugs fuck you up", you are including alcohol and other legal substances.
 

HSIAMetalKing

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BardSeed post=18.69732.672421 said:
I hope that when you say: "drugs fuck you up", you are including alcohol and other legal substances.
And hopefully discluding marijuana. I mean, it may "fuck you up", but certainly not "murder kids with swords" fuck you up.

This thread seems to be transitioning into a discussion about how to be a "real" Satanist.