Meth junkie burns down 3,500 year old tree

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Ultratwinkie said:
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Eri said:
More seriously though, it's not "some tree" that got burnt. It's an extremely old tree that's lived through countless wars among other things, that's probably contributed more than she has or ever will.
Kendarik said:
It's an addict, so its self induced. And she's so far gone I doubt help will help. That she needs help is however obvious.

The tragedy is the tree, which isn't just a random tree, but a real natural wonder.
coolman9899 said:
Dude this tree is older then you... by like 116 times over, and why would they... most people would care about the tree more anyway, lol.
It's a damned tree, no matter how old it is I find it pretty fucking disgusting that people value it over a person. It's a tree it doesn't have a personality, it can't think or feel things. I'm not quite going as far as to say this story should be all about the junkie, that's not what makes it noteworthy; I just don't like how Eri has written her off completely without a thought to rehabilitation or even knowing much about them.
Oh right because when a meth addict runs through a museum and burns ancient wonders, we should feel sorry for the person? Fuck the person, national wonders and history needs to be saved.

No matter how you fucking cut it, she will die very soon. She is a tiny part in the timeline that is history. Historical relevance is far more important than someone who is willingly killing herself. She will be forgotten not long after her death as well.

History? National landmarks? History is forever and will serve a purpose for a longer time than she ever will. So stop it with the bleeding heart appeals to emotion, because it isn't working. The fact of the matter is a landmark was lost, and it wont come back anytime soon.
It is a tree, no matter how old it is it is still a tree. In absolutely no way is it more important than a person. Fuck that tree.
 

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TheRightToArmBears said:
Eri said:
More seriously though, it's not "some tree" that got burnt. It's an extremely old tree that's lived through countless wars among other things, that's probably contributed more than she has or ever will.
Kendarik said:
It's an addict, so its self induced. And she's so far gone I doubt help will help. That she needs help is however obvious.

The tragedy is the tree, which isn't just a random tree, but a real natural wonder.
coolman9899 said:
Dude this tree is older then you... by like 116 times over, and why would they... most people would care about the tree more anyway, lol.
It's a damned tree, no matter how old it is I find it pretty fucking disgusting that people value it over a person. It's a tree it doesn't have a personality, it can't think or feel things. I'm not quite going as far as to say this story should be all about the junkie, that's not what makes it noteworthy; I just don't like how Eri has written her off completely without a thought to rehabilitation or even knowing much about them.
The tree has contributed more to the world than that woman ever will. (IE converting carbon dioxide into oxygen, WHICH WE NEED OR WE DIE)

So no. Fuck the woman. The tree is/was infinitely more valuable than she is.
 

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Wow, that is just about the stupidest reason for a tree to go up in flames.

"Whoah man! I just thought of, like, a great idea man! What if I brought like... a lighter into a like a really old and important tree. I could have like, tree meth man! Fucking tree meth!"
 

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Ultratwinkie said:
him over there said:
Ultratwinkie said:
TheRightToArmBears said:
Eri said:
More seriously though, it's not "some tree" that got burnt. It's an extremely old tree that's lived through countless wars among other things, that's probably contributed more than she has or ever will.
Kendarik said:
It's an addict, so its self induced. And she's so far gone I doubt help will help. That she needs help is however obvious.

The tragedy is the tree, which isn't just a random tree, but a real natural wonder.
coolman9899 said:
Dude this tree is older then you... by like 116 times over, and why would they... most people would care about the tree more anyway, lol.
It's a damned tree, no matter how old it is I find it pretty fucking disgusting that people value it over a person. It's a tree it doesn't have a personality, it can't think or feel things. I'm not quite going as far as to say this story should be all about the junkie, that's not what makes it noteworthy; I just don't like how Eri has written her off completely without a thought to rehabilitation or even knowing much about them.
Oh right because when a meth addict runs through a museum and burns ancient wonders, we should feel sorry for the person? Fuck the person, national wonders and history needs to be saved.

No matter how you fucking cut it, she will die very soon. She is a tiny part in the timeline that is history. Historical relevance is far more important than someone who is willingly killing herself. She will be forgotten not long after her death as well.

History? National landmarks? History is forever and will serve a purpose for a longer time than she ever will. So stop it with the bleeding heart appeals to emotion, because it isn't working. The fact of the matter is a landmark was lost, and it wont come back anytime soon.
It is a tree, no matter how old it is it is still a tree. In absolutely no way is it more important than a person. Fuck that tree.
Oh right the "kumbaya" bullshit. Do you have any objective evidence to suggest your claim is in any way true? That tree was a national wonder, and served much more purpose than her meaningless life ever could.

She'll be dead in 50 years. That tree is 3,500.

so that's 3,450 years. That is MULTIPLE generations of humans. That tree was far more important than her by all means. Whether you recognize its significance or not.

So you better provide some actual evidence beyond appeals to emotions that she is worth anywhere close to that. Because from my tally, she isn't worth a cent compared to that wonder.
Being old isn't worth anything. The tree doesn't think or feel, let it burn. Nothing of value is lost.
 

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Hero in a half shell said:
Holy crap, she's Emperor Palpatine! Let this be a lesson kids, DON'T DO DRUGS!

Oh well, as the old saying goes, there are plenty more trees in the sea... or something
OR, do drugs and control the powers of the Dark Side of the Force.
Pretty good deal to me.
 

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Hero in a half shell said:
Holy crap, she's Emperor Palpatine! Let this be a lesson kids, DON'T DO DRUGS!

Oh well, as the old saying goes, there are plenty more trees in the sea... or something
Nah, the lesson to kids is: by all means do drugs, just not meth. That shit is brutal.
 

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him over there said:
Being old isn't worth anything. The tree doesn't think or feel, let it burn. Nothing of value is lost.
Should we let the Empire State Building burn, should we let Auschwitz burn, should we dig up Indian burial grounds, or plug up Old Faithful? After all these are all inanimate objects/places/natural locations. The tree and those listed are both natural, and man made wonders, and the buildings all serve as a reminder, or are testament to mankind, or they're sacred to people.
 

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ChaplainOrion said:
him over there said:
Being old isn't worth anything. The tree doesn't think or feel, let it burn. Nothing of value is lost.
Should we let the Empire State Building burn, should we let Auschwitz burn, should we dig up Indian burial grounds, or plug up Old Faithful? After all these are all inanimate objects/places/natural locations. The tree and those listed are both natural, and man made wonders, and the buildings all serve as a reminder, or are testament to mankind, or they're sacred to people.
I'm not saying we should purposely seek out to destroy anything, plus most of those things have symbolic emotional value, this tree is just really old. Also I wouldn't be very angry if someone did plug old Faithful.
 

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Individuals and their day to day lives are more important than any sort of pseudo immortality history bull. Humans are the only thing on this planet with any sort of real intrinsic value and we should treasure eachother. If you disagree than you disagree I guess.
 

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him over there said:
ChaplainOrion said:
him over there said:
Being old isn't worth anything. The tree doesn't think or feel, let it burn. Nothing of value is lost.
Should we let the Empire State Building burn, should we let Auschwitz burn, should we dig up Indian burial grounds, or plug up Old Faithful? After all these are all inanimate objects/places/natural locations. The tree and those listed are both natural, and man made wonders, and the buildings all serve as a reminder, or are testament to mankind, or they're sacred to people.
I'm not saying we should purposely seek out to destroy anything, plus most of those things have symbolic emotional value, this tree is just really old. Also I wouldn't be very angry if someone did plug old Faithful.
Well besides causing some sort of ecological disaster, all that water and steam will have to go somewhere right, Old Faithful is one of our nations most prized natural landmarks.
 

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him over there said:
Being old isn't worth anything. The tree doesn't think or feel, let it burn. Nothing of value is lost.
It doesn't think or feel, but it's still allive. That's not some Hippie crap, that's a fact. And since this drud addict did nothing of value in her life whatsoever and considering that this tree cleared masses of air and probably created masses of life (Other trees) then it's damn well more worth than her.
 

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C F said:
It's such a shame something old and magnificent burned down.
...and now I'm over it.
This sums my opinion quite well, if it had been a forest or a village or something then give me a shout.